Need tips for upcoming surgery
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- alclarkson
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Need tips for upcoming surgery
So, I've decided to finally bite the bullet & get my gallbladder taken out. I go Thursday to do preop & schedule the actual surgery. I've read there is a certain antibiotic that is better for MCers. I know they'll give me an IV antibiotic during surgery so if someone could let me know which is best & have the least chance of causing a flare up, that would be great. Anything other good tips would be welcomed as well!
Diarrhea, nausea, abd. pain 3/31/11. Confirmed gallstone/sludge 4/15/11. Confirmed Lymphocytic Colitis 5/6/11 via colonoscopy. Started Pepto 5/21/11 & stopped 6/21/11. Stopped Cymbalta 6/9/11- D stopped temporarily. 7-19-11- lap chole
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Been there
I was just diagnosed yesterday, and my GB taken out 4 yes ago, so I can't help with the antibiotic. With the GB removal, all I can suggest is to take 2 weeks off after. You will b weak and tired and I got D after it for about 3 months. Stay away from fats especially.
- alclarkson
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I can't believe 2 full weeks off for recovery from a laproscopic procedure. Could I do 1 week off then maybe 1 week office work- just sitting doing paperwork, or would you folks not recommend that?
I'm not looking forward to the D, as I've finally gotten that under control for the past month w/ only 1 flare-up.
I'm not looking forward to the D, as I've finally gotten that under control for the past month w/ only 1 flare-up.
Diarrhea, nausea, abd. pain 3/31/11. Confirmed gallstone/sludge 4/15/11. Confirmed Lymphocytic Colitis 5/6/11 via colonoscopy. Started Pepto 5/21/11 & stopped 6/21/11. Stopped Cymbalta 6/9/11- D stopped temporarily. 7-19-11- lap chole
This is a classic situation where the only answer is... "it depends."
It sounds reasonable that your recovery from a lap procedure would be less grueling than Joe's recent experience. I had a 'minor' lap procedure some years back that went perfectly well, but I had an "idiosyncratic" reaction to the anesthesia - so it took me a week to be normal again, instead of a few days.
I hope you get the easy road! But I don't think anyone can predict with certainty.
How are your symptoms at the moment? I do think that the more stable you are going in, the better your odds are of weathering the procedure well.
Good luck
Sara
It sounds reasonable that your recovery from a lap procedure would be less grueling than Joe's recent experience. I had a 'minor' lap procedure some years back that went perfectly well, but I had an "idiosyncratic" reaction to the anesthesia - so it took me a week to be normal again, instead of a few days.
I hope you get the easy road! But I don't think anyone can predict with certainty.
How are your symptoms at the moment? I do think that the more stable you are going in, the better your odds are of weathering the procedure well.
Good luck
Sara
Hi Andrea,
People I've known personally, who had that procedure, were able to go back to work, (nothing physically demanding, of course), after a few days of rest. Let your body be your guide - it will tell you if it's not ready to return to work.
As far as "safe" antibiotics are concerned, the fluoroquilonones, (especially Ciprofloxacin), are not only well-tolerated by people with MC, but in most cases, they will stop a reaction that is already in progress, for the duration of the antibiotic treatment. Z-Pak, (azithromycin), is another antibiotic that rarely causes problems for those of us with MC.
The riskiest antibiotics are those that have a history of causing C. diff infections, particularly, clindamycin, (Cleocin), ampicillin, (Omnipen), amoxicillin, (Amoxil, Augmentin, or Wymox), and any antibiotics in the cephalosporin class (such as cefazolin or cephalexin).
There is a possibility that antibiotics administered by IV may not be as prone to causing D, as orally-administered antibiotics, but that may be an individual issue, of course.
Best of luck with the procedure.
Tex
People I've known personally, who had that procedure, were able to go back to work, (nothing physically demanding, of course), after a few days of rest. Let your body be your guide - it will tell you if it's not ready to return to work.
As far as "safe" antibiotics are concerned, the fluoroquilonones, (especially Ciprofloxacin), are not only well-tolerated by people with MC, but in most cases, they will stop a reaction that is already in progress, for the duration of the antibiotic treatment. Z-Pak, (azithromycin), is another antibiotic that rarely causes problems for those of us with MC.
The riskiest antibiotics are those that have a history of causing C. diff infections, particularly, clindamycin, (Cleocin), ampicillin, (Omnipen), amoxicillin, (Amoxil, Augmentin, or Wymox), and any antibiotics in the cephalosporin class (such as cefazolin or cephalexin).
There is a possibility that antibiotics administered by IV may not be as prone to causing D, as orally-administered antibiotics, but that may be an individual issue, of course.
Best of luck with the procedure.
Tex
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Hi Andrea.
When I had that procedure I went back to work after 10 days, but was still uncomfortable. In hindsight, I wished I had taken a few days longer. But everyone is different. It was days before I could roll over or lie comfortably other than flat on my back, and that meant I lacked sleep which impacted everything else. Tip - clutch a pillow to your tummy when you want to roll over - it holds all the 'bits' in place that they have loosened up.
I also had D whenever I ate anything even remotely fatty. That lasted for about nine months. On the other hand my dad never had any problems eating fatty stuff after his op - he was into the fish and chips at the first opportunity!
My naturopath recommended heavily dosing with vitamin C just prior to surgery to help boost the immune response.
Lyn
When I had that procedure I went back to work after 10 days, but was still uncomfortable. In hindsight, I wished I had taken a few days longer. But everyone is different. It was days before I could roll over or lie comfortably other than flat on my back, and that meant I lacked sleep which impacted everything else. Tip - clutch a pillow to your tummy when you want to roll over - it holds all the 'bits' in place that they have loosened up.
I also had D whenever I ate anything even remotely fatty. That lasted for about nine months. On the other hand my dad never had any problems eating fatty stuff after his op - he was into the fish and chips at the first opportunity!
My naturopath recommended heavily dosing with vitamin C just prior to surgery to help boost the immune response.
Lyn
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Morning Andrea,
When I had my gallbladder out it was a long procedure since it was so infected I was in the hospital - entered as emergency - for 6 days until the infection was under control. They then did the surgery but I need a full 2 weeks before going back to work and then should have waited. I have a high tolerance to pain but since the infection was present pre-op it really took a lot out of me. I highly suggest that you go slow and take the recovery time you need. As we always say here - everyone is different.
Maggie
When I had my gallbladder out it was a long procedure since it was so infected I was in the hospital - entered as emergency - for 6 days until the infection was under control. They then did the surgery but I need a full 2 weeks before going back to work and then should have waited. I have a high tolerance to pain but since the infection was present pre-op it really took a lot out of me. I highly suggest that you go slow and take the recovery time you need. As we always say here - everyone is different.
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- alclarkson
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Thanks for all the good tips! I will def. ask for Cipro & play the recovery time by ear. I'm an x-ray tech & it is a very physical job- lots of lifting, pushing, pulling, you name it, so just 1 week is def. out. I'm thinking maybe a 2nd week on weight restrictions in the office. We'll see.
Sara- I'm actually doing great. I've only have 1 BM not norman for about a month and a half.
Maggie- I'm the same way- high pain tolerance. That's what's pushed me to just get it done. I"m afraid that it will get infected & I'll have a horrible mess on my hands.
Sara- I'm actually doing great. I've only have 1 BM not norman for about a month and a half.
Maggie- I'm the same way- high pain tolerance. That's what's pushed me to just get it done. I"m afraid that it will get infected & I'll have a horrible mess on my hands.
Diarrhea, nausea, abd. pain 3/31/11. Confirmed gallstone/sludge 4/15/11. Confirmed Lymphocytic Colitis 5/6/11 via colonoscopy. Started Pepto 5/21/11 & stopped 6/21/11. Stopped Cymbalta 6/9/11- D stopped temporarily. 7-19-11- lap chole
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I'm taking the flare-up thing back. Got chosen for jury duty today, got a little stressed out about it & had 3 bms today, not D but skinny little fellas. This makes me worry about the upcoming surgery b/c I know I'm going to stress out about it, I am very very scared about being sedated. Thinking maybe I should go back to taking pepto a week or so before the surgery. Anyone think that would help, or would that just be putting off the inevitable D once the gallbladder's gone anyway?
Diarrhea, nausea, abd. pain 3/31/11. Confirmed gallstone/sludge 4/15/11. Confirmed Lymphocytic Colitis 5/6/11 via colonoscopy. Started Pepto 5/21/11 & stopped 6/21/11. Stopped Cymbalta 6/9/11- D stopped temporarily. 7-19-11- lap chole
Sorry about the unnecessary stress, but really, the sedation is nothing to worry about - that's the easiest part of the whole process. It usually goes so quickly that it's over before you know it, and the next thing you know, you're waking up in recovery.
I have no experience with taking Pepto as a preventative measure, but IMO, I doubt that it would do any good. If the cholecystectomy causes D, it's probably going to last for something like half a year, or more, anyway. I don't know if a "cleanout" will be necessary prior to the surgery, or not, but if it is, that would remove all of the residual Pepto.
Tex
I have no experience with taking Pepto as a preventative measure, but IMO, I doubt that it would do any good. If the cholecystectomy causes D, it's probably going to last for something like half a year, or more, anyway. I don't know if a "cleanout" will be necessary prior to the surgery, or not, but if it is, that would remove all of the residual Pepto.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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I had my gallbladder out a few years ago, pre CC, and was in considerable discomfort for a week or more. couldn't wear my undewire bra because of where the incision was located. I was in the midst of a very stressful situation at the time and I think that contributed to my difficult recovery. My daughter-in-law had her gallbladder out a month later and bounced back with little to no pain. You just don't know how your body will react. Strenuous lifting is probably contraindicated for a couple of weeks at least. Both DIL and I developed a lot of belching after having the gallbladder out. I had never done that before and neither had she.
I was on a Zpak when on vacation last month and didn't have any D the entire trip. I didn't realize at the time that it was the anti-biotic that probably controlled the D. I had just joined this board and didn't understand much about MC.
Started Entocort yesterday, three pills, and no D last night and very little this a.m. WOW!! I'll continue with the GF diet and try to be sensible with the rest of my food. I know I'm lactose intolerant but not sure about the rest of it. Have to wait for the results from Entero lab.
Good luck with your surgery.
Sheila
I was on a Zpak when on vacation last month and didn't have any D the entire trip. I didn't realize at the time that it was the anti-biotic that probably controlled the D. I had just joined this board and didn't understand much about MC.
Started Entocort yesterday, three pills, and no D last night and very little this a.m. WOW!! I'll continue with the GF diet and try to be sensible with the rest of my food. I know I'm lactose intolerant but not sure about the rest of it. Have to wait for the results from Entero lab.
Good luck with your surgery.
Sheila
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- alclarkson
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Thanks all for the tips and what not. D-Day is next Tuesday, the 19th. I'm a lot less tense about it than I was for the upper and lower endoscopies. I think it's because I'm going to be "out out", not just forced to forget about it with meds. I'm kind of actually looking forward to it. I've gotten a lot more nauseas lately. I've had a bad LC flare up I've been dealing w/ since the last week of June. I'm pretty much alternating between pepto one day and loperamide the next. It seems to cut down on the number of BMs I have, but when I gotta go, I gotta go!!!
Diarrhea, nausea, abd. pain 3/31/11. Confirmed gallstone/sludge 4/15/11. Confirmed Lymphocytic Colitis 5/6/11 via colonoscopy. Started Pepto 5/21/11 & stopped 6/21/11. Stopped Cymbalta 6/9/11- D stopped temporarily. 7-19-11- lap chole
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Oh my gosh, I wouldn't have even thought of that zizzle! Thanks you sooooo much. I didn't mention it in any of my pre-op stuff either, so they wouldn't think to tell me. I owe ya one!
Diarrhea, nausea, abd. pain 3/31/11. Confirmed gallstone/sludge 4/15/11. Confirmed Lymphocytic Colitis 5/6/11 via colonoscopy. Started Pepto 5/21/11 & stopped 6/21/11. Stopped Cymbalta 6/9/11- D stopped temporarily. 7-19-11- lap chole