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Is MC related to these?

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Does anyone know if MC is related to previous Epstein Barr or Shingles?

Also, bending or reaching over-head can bring on D. Anyone else?

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I'm not aware of any Epstien Barr or varicella link, although anything is possible. They may act as a "trigger." I generally have more D at home becuase I'm moving around, doing chores, bending and lifting. Anything that gets your insides moving is likely to bring on D, I think.
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Brenda,

My experience is that if I'm going to have D, I will have it whether I move around a lot or not. However, the timing of when it happens is definitely impacted. In other words, I'll have it sooner rather than later if I do a lot of physical activity.

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Thanks ladies for comments. Since I posted questions, I found a Dermatitis Herpetiformis link in Celiac Wiki which answered my question about MC and Shingles.

(Forgive me, I must learn how to use quote box, but want to post this now!)

"Dermatitis herpetiformis (DH), or Duhring's disease, is a chronic blistering skin condition, characterised by blisters filled with a watery fluid. Despite its name, DH is not related to or caused by herpes virus: the name means that it is a skin inflammation having an appearance similar to herpes.

DH was first described by Dr. Louis Duhring in 1884. A connection between DH and gluten intolerance (celiac disease) was recognized in 1967, although the exact causal mechanism is not known."

I was treated for Shingles the entire summer of 2010 and dx with MC in January 2011. Pics of DH look like Shingles. Dad had Shingles in early adulthood, dx with LC prior to death. Since finding you guys, researching, reading, studying - I feel certain Dad had LC for a very long time. Also read the spleen is often smaller (he had two spleens, one was very small and this was learned during pancreatic Sx)

I'm gratefully learning so much through PP support. I've often thought to myself what a humbling illness this is. Everyone is so willing to discuss anything, answer any question and share knowledge/experience. Reading your posts encourages me, spurs me to seek answers, reminds me to listen to my body and moves me another step toward better health.

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Brenda in my case I think Epstein Barr Birus (EBV) was the trigger that resulted in my immune system developing autoimmune traits.

In 1996 I had traveled to China, and after returning I got as sick as one could imagine and was hospitalized for almost 3 months with a fever that would not break and aches pains nausea etc... Like the worst flu ever that would not end. What they found after many many tests was that I had titer levels for EBV that were off the charts. I was out of work on disability for 9 months and it took another year to feel normal .... Sort of. I never regained my energy or physical stamina

Apparently EBV is the largest and most complex virus currently known. In our teenage years if you contract mononucleosis you develope an immunity to EBV as mononucleosis is a subset of the full blown EBV virus. I never had 'mono'

It was within a year of that event that I started noticing that I would have unexplained periods of D every now and then, but I made excuses for it...food issues...upset stomach...or whatever and did not deal with it for years.

In April of 2010 I was Dxd with MC (CC) and Crohns disease.
So to answer your question, in my case I would say EBV was a definite factor in the development of these conditions.

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I have had "small" attacks of shingles for years. I say "small" because I get small patches, usually below my waist. But they are NOT small in terms of pain. I know when I am going to get one because I get what's known as hyperesthesia, a weird, burning sensation along the route of the nerve delivering to the site of the eventual patch of blisters, and at the site. Hurts like the billyo. When the blisters come out a couple of days later they hurt worse. Takes about a week before they begin to dry up, but the pain takes 2-3 weeks to subside. It's not fun.

It doesn't happen often, thank heavens, but I dislike it enough to be heartily thankful if going GF stops the attacks.
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Brenda wrote:Does anyone know if MC is related to previous Epstein Barr or Shingles?
Both Epstein Barr and Shingles are associated with connective tissue diseases, meaning that they are associated with all autoimmune diseases. CC is definitely a connective tissue disease, (collagen is connective tissue), and since CC and LC often segue from one type to the other, (if untreated, according to laboratory diagnostic markers), then it follows that LC would have to be a connective tissue disease, as well.

So IMO, yes, they are both connected with MC.

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Tex - Thanks for instruction. Sounds like you'll be sore tomorrow. But...did you get the corn loaded ;) Seriously, I do hope you're ok. Ice can be our best friend.


Joe - Thanks for sharing your story. Over the past year, I've thought chronologically about previous illnesses, various symptoms, stress and genetics. EB (10 years ago), the continued fatigue, stomach issues and on-set of GERD kept coming to mind. I also believe it to be an autoimmune trigger.


Lesley - The odd thing about Shingles is that it was not only on one side of my body as usually seen, but culture was positive for Shingles. I experienced hyperesthesia and used Rx ointment prior to on-set which helped shorten the length of time it lasted.


Thanks to each!

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Tex - thanks for the reasoning to my "gut" feeling on EB and Shingles.

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Brenda wrote:But...did you get the corn loaded ;)
You know, that was my biggest concern, at the time, :lol: , but I kept getting light-headed every time I sat up for a few minutes, or stood up, and I sure didn't want to black out and really get bunged up, so I finally caved in and let someone else finish loading. It seemed to be the prudent thing to do. :grin:

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Pass out? Perish the thought! Are you icing?
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No. I'm okay today - just a little stiff and sore. :grin:

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Joe,
I had mono when I was 13. I hope you're right, that by having had it I have some immunity. I always thought EBV issues were a reactiviation of previous mono.
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Glad you are better.
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