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I don't know which is worse, D or C since both come with cramps, headaches, fatigue etc. With C I can go out, while with D I have to stay near the toilet.

It's different from other times I have had it. Not total water, not fire hose, but tiny little pieces, weird color, coming out of me. I don't see the same undigested food in it, and not as much mucous.
This is a tough illness, and my feelings towards the GIs get more and more aggressive. Until a couple of them get th3e disease there will not be enough research, and not a lot of understanding.

This is when I REALLY miss chicken soup and rice since they feel comforting when I have D. Especially chicken soup. For my Jewish mother soul.
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Sounds like progress, though, all in all.

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Progress Tex? Can you explain to me why? I don't feel it at all.
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Lesley wrote:Not total water, not fire hose, but tiny little pieces, weird color, coming out of me. I don't see the same undigested food in it, and not as much mucous.
That's an improvement; that's what Tex means.

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I guess. I hope it means progress. I've been at least 10 times today.

And it's really very weird - green, khaki color.

Oh well! Hopefully progress with continue.
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I would say that 10 times isn't very good, unless you usually go more than that when you're in the D phase.

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Gloria interpreted my thoughts exactly right, but I have to agree with her that 10 trips leaves a lot to be desired.

The greenish color simply indicates rapid transit - the residual bile hasn't had sufficient time to go through the chemical transformation that normally changes the color from green to yellow to brown.

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I am very glad I had one pamper left and that I put it on last night because otherwise my bed would have been a mess. I bought more this morning.

Gloria, I haven't been in D phase for a long time. When I was it was literally 24/7. Non stop. I have been in C phase for months now, and struggling to keep going.

It's not good. It's different, but too often, and way too D.
I will try to control it with diet and imodium.

What do you think? Should I go back to the meat and potatoes I was eating after the enterolab results, or should I follow the MRT and eat quinoa and buckwheat rather than potatoes?
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Lesley wrote:What do you think? Should I go back to the meat and potatoes I was eating after the enterolab results, or should I follow the MRT and eat quinoa and buckwheat rather than potatoes?
The problem with quinoa is that most people don't cook it to a soft enough consistency. It's a pretty hard seed and takes a long time to soften. I used to grind it to the consistency of corn meal and then I'd cook it. Buckwheat can be chopped in the blender pretty easily. When I began the MRT diet, I ate them both as whole, cooked seeds. I finally realized that I needed to eat them creamed or as flour.

If I could tolerate potatoes, I would eat them hands-down over any grain. They're easier on the digestive system. That's my opinion; you ultimately have to do what your body thinks is best.

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FWIW, :iagree: with Gloria. Taters are closer to paleo than grains are, IMO, and as she says, they're usually far easier for humans to digest, than grains.

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That's what my instincts are. But potatoes are a couple of phases away according to the MRT, so I wasn't sure.

Gloria, I do cook the quinoa and the buckwheat till they are very, very soft. I also like to put them in my little oven and crisp them. I miss crunch.

I will return to potatoes.
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Lesley wrote:I also like to put them in my little oven and crisp them. I miss crunch.
That may restore most of the abrasiveness that they had before cooking. :shrug:

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Even though they are super soft prior to baking? Potato chips, neither home made nor store bought, ever caused me problems, and they are also crunchy. I thought that was because they are partially digested in my mouth (chewed well because I enjoy the crunch) and even more so in my stomach.
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Well, potato chips are probably about half-digested by saliva, by the time they get to the stomach. I'm just guessing about the quinoa and buckwheat, based on the fact that starch extraction from potatoes is very simple, whereas starch extraction from quinoa and buckwheat is much more complex, and their fiber content is higher. I could certainly be wrong about that - the proof is in the pudding, so to speak. IOW, go by what your body says, after eating them.

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I think potatoes are better, certainly when I am in D mode.
This has knocked me out. Totally.
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