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Hey Wayne,

You told me to remind you about adding our intolerances to our profile. It sure would help me today. I'm wondering what others are intolerant of that I'm not (yet). I should know, but my old lady brain just can't remember everyones!

I'm gluten, soy, corn, diary, rice, testing citrus.

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Hmmmmmm. I did, didn't I. That turns out to be a tougher project than I expected, but I'll try it again, and come up with something. Sorry to be so slow.

In the meantime, I'm intolerant of:

gluten, dairy, corn, sugar, citrus, grapes, (and almost all fruit and vegetables, except for things like green beans, squash, spinach, and potatoes/sweet potatoes), and nuts, in any significant quantity.

I also have a minor intolerance for beef, (bloating, headache and upper body pains, but no D).


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Hi Jean!

Here are mine:

gluten, corn, soy, dairy, citrus, yeast, tomatoes, chocolate, and carrageenen

I wonder what is giving you a problem right now? Have you been using any new products - lipstick, mouthwash, toothpaste, floss, etc.? Are you still eating any processed foods? If so, call the manufacturer to see if the ingredients have changed. Have you added any new foods recently?Maybe it would help if you listed a sample of a day or 2 of the foods you ate and we could all take a look. Many heads are better than one, I always find.

It seems that , for some, the D gets worse in different seasons. Do you think it's possible that certain pollens or other pollutants in the air could cause problems? After all, they go into our noses and mouths and then into the GI tract. It might be possible for us to develop an immune response to these things, too, IMHO. I've never read anything about this, but it seems that a lot of what we learn about our intolerances cannot be found in any book.

Anyway, I hope you find the culprit soon.

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Polly

P.S. Mike started a thread several months ago where he documented everyone's intolerances. Maybe you can find it.
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Polly,

I never gave pollen any thought before, from a GI system viewpoint, but you may be onto something, there. Pollen ranges from 2.5 to 61% protein, and Jean certainly works in a pollen-rich environment.

http://www.esajournals.org/esaonline/?r ... &page=0617

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Yeah Polly,

That is a very interesting observation about pollen!!! Grasses are just now flowering...Matter of fact, I've been transplanting a lot of them. (Ever try digging one of those suckers up? I already broke one shovel!) Anyway, I'm going to look and see if wheat is blooming here, could be.

I haven't added anything new to my diet. I've been drinking homemade lemonade. I've eliminated it and will test it when I feel better. I'm kind of hoping that is the problem, because it doesn't seem too hard to give up.

I have now been completely achy for 3 days. Way past my normal reaction time to something. I've only had water, bananas and steak during that time.

I sure hope it's not pollen. Can't you just see me working with a respirator on!?! I guess I could drive the sprayer around...

THIS DISEASE SUCKS!!!

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Wayne,

If it's a problem to add our intolerances to our profiles. Why don't we just add it too our signatures?

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Jean,

Now that's a brilliant idea. It works for me. They'll always be right there handy, without the need to even look them up. I'll give it a try.

Thanks.

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Wayne

P S By the way, in most parts of the U S, wheat blooms during the month of April, possibly a little later, in northern areas.
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I was thinking about Polly’s comment about environmental triggers after dinner tonight while cleaning the kitchen floor because of a minor technical cooking glitch. This might be better read that I can be a complete klutz sometimes. Sometimes???????

Was wondering about how the cleaning products we use might be absorbed through the skin and result in a trigger. The convenience products all seem to contain a lot of chlorine to keep us super clean which may or may not be a good idea. Probably not. One of the first persons I ever met with digestion problems back in the early seventies was spending a lot of time in a public swimming pool. Public pools are highly chlorinated and she found that when she quit swimming in a pool and swam in a lake or the ocean instead her digestion problems disappeared. Her assumption was that she was absorbing so much chlorine through her skin that it was killing off bacteria in her digestive system. Who knows? I work with a lot of different solvents in my finishing work so I wear rubber, latex or solvent proof gloves when dealing with anything but tap water. Felt kind of like a sissy at first but since my car mechanics do the same thing I guess I am not to far gone. :roll:

It’s another thing worth considering anyway.

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I suppose that it is a bit silly and maybe even a bit neurotic on my part but I would just as soon not be identified by my intolerances and problems or identify myself that way every time I post. I was just built a little different and hope to help those built on the same lines as I . Having visited other sites before finding this one I was a bit turned off to find members listing all their problems at the end of every post like a badge of honor. Quite often the list was longer than the post. I wonder if new members might be as turned off as I was by what may eventually be long , long lists of what is wrong instead of what is right.

Jean, I understand where you are coming from in trying to remember who does what but I truly feel that there might be a better way to do this.

How about anyone else. Any ideas ?

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Hmmmmmm. You raise an interesting point, Thinking about this brings to mind the old cliche, "to each, his, (or her), own". Please don't take offense, but I guess I have sort of an opposite outlook. Personally, I see nothing wrong with a short, one-line list of intolerances. (Why make a novel out of it?)

To me, at least, it seems much more practical than a lot of abstract, "inspirational" quotes that take up more room, but don't actually convey any useful information.

That said, I love to read the inspirational quotes that are listed in various member's profiles.

And, I agree that long-winded lists of ailments can quickly become depressing.

I guess the bottom line, is that a signature file is a personal glimpse into our very souls, and says a lot about our personalities. It's a tool to be used in whatever way that we, as authors, see fit.

Whatever the choice, I see no reason why any of us should feel pressured to alter the content of our signature files, in any way. A signature file is strictly a reflection of our personal choices, and should always remain that way.

I guess that this also implies that I'm comfortable with my disease, and it's characteristics, and while I'm not necessarily proud of it, I'm not ashamed of it either. I don't walk down the street, advertising my issues for all the world to see. On this site, however--that's what it's all about. A newbie shouldn't be surprised, (or disappointed), to see all the various aspects of MC mentioned, over and over, again. After all, it is now a permanent part of our behaviour pattern.

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Matthew,

That is a good point. I do find that once I've read someone's signature, I overlook it in the future. I don't want to be defined either, but I'm not too worried, besides it's a subtle way to let newbies know that I consider diet my way to control my disease.

Honestly, I don't think it's that big of a deal, one way or another.

When I was looking for my last intolerance, rice, I checked out things being absorbed through the skin and mucus membranes. My limited research suggested that no absorption was taking place. Or if it was, it wasn't entering the gut and wasn't being reacted to. I wonder if your friend with the chlorine was actually either swallowing the water or taking it into the body other ways. Or, she was wrong about the chlorine. Maybe something else at the pool was happening, like she always had the same snack...

That being said, I think you are very wise to wear what ever protection you need. I sure do when I use any type of chemical. Some of the chems that you are using are volatile and may be more easily absorbed. I did find that I often touch my lips with my fingers and can contaminate myself that way. I know what you mean about feeling like a 'sissy' worrying about contaminate. Heck, I don't care, I don't want to be sick for 2 days!!1

BTW, I made 4 nest boxes. All went well and thanks to you, I was very careful. I think I realized that I was cutting too small of pieces on the table saw. I began using the miter saw when ever possible. They turned out to be the best I've made, perfectly square. Thanks for your help on that!

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Jean and Matthew,

I'm a walking test project, when it comes to the issue of skin absorptivity of various food intolerance items. I work all day in the presence of corn dust, and of course touch the grain, regularly. Even though we use dust collection systems, I can't help but be exposed to dust at various points in the process, especially unloading, and/or transfering grain, and adjusting/servicing certain procesing machines. This means that I regularly inhale a certain amount of corn starch, (in the form of dust).

Right after wheat harvest, I do the same with wheat, when we clean planting seed for several growers.

I have never experienced a reaction, that I could attribute to this type of contact, as far as GI symptoms are concerned.

Chlorine, on the other hand, is a different kind of cat. It is much more readily absorbed through the skin, and it can go directly into the blood stream. What happens after that, seems to be a matter of speculation.I suppose it is quite possible that some people are more sensitive to chlorine than others, also. Chlorine levels in pools, of course, are much higher than in drinking water. Still, if it were a major problem for normal digestive systems, one would think that some sort of link would have been proven by now. Of course, the friend that was mentioned, probably did not have a normal digestive system.

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Just when I was going to go with Wayne's 'proof' that we can be around dust from our intolerances and be safe, he mentions that he thinks he's having problems with hay fever, only digestively.

I think I found my rice intolerance about this time last year. Now I'm wondering if there is pollen that is making me (us) think we have a new intolerance...Probably not, but it's something to think about.

One of these days I'm going to test rice.

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Well, I note that every fall, I start checking rice, because I think I'm intolerant to it, but I'm never able to come up with any solid evidence. Something bothers me every fall, and I can't track it down.

This time of year, (ragweed season), I find myself clearing my throat occasionally, to dislodge some phlem, which is very reminiscent of what I used to do the day after a hay fever reaction, (my hay fever disappeared, when my MC symptoms began). However, I have no other typical hay fever symptoms--no runny nose, and no wattery eyes, at least not to any significant extent.

IOW, I'm wondering if my body could be producing histamines, (or some other chemicals or antibodies), which are affecting my digestive system, rather than my respiratory system. Could the pollen, (which is composed of up to more than 60% protein), be causing a "food intolerance" type reaction, rather than a classic allergic reaction?

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Wayne
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