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Question: Integrating MRT results into my current diet

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Hi to all, Happy Memorial Day weekend and thanks to those of you who have served our country--

I have a question-- after I received my MRT results by email, I received a bound 66 page book that outlined my results, explained what was tested and what family each food belongs to, plus a plan for the LEAP ImmunoCalm Diet program and foods allowed in each phase, plus suggestions for substitutes. In Phase 1 I've tossed out about 1/3 of the foods because I already know through Enterolab that these foods are problematic. Phase 1 says that I can eat all of these remaining foods and I imagine that is to be my foundation if I was following the LEAP as written.

My question is this: given that LC has already dictated my basic diet, should I add foods one at a time, even in Phase 1, to be sure I don't react? And if I do, do I eat the 'trial' food 3 days in a row to be sure i can tolerate it? What did the rest of you do to work your MRT results into your MC diet?

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Carol
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Hi Carol,

I went through a dietitian for my MRT, and unfortunately for me I listened to her and included too many foods too quickly - it was an unmitigated disaster. I was keeping a very accurate food log at the time, and had been doing pretty well on my own, so I quickly realized that I needed to take the food management back into my own hands, and stopped consulting her. The material I received from the lab was very comprehensive and easy to understand, so I really didn't need anyone to guide me.

That said, I think the best approach is to go very slowly - with every food you haven't been eating lately, test it carefully and thoroughly before moving on to the next food. The best thing about MRT is that it takes out some more of the guesswork, but we still have to test each and every food, whether low green or high. To me it became pretty obvious that if I introduced more than one new food in a day, I would have no way of knowing which one gave me trouble if I reacted.

Lots of luck with this - it's a great tool to have.

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Thanks so much Kari. I have to say after some consideration, I came to the same conclusion you did. The first dietician I spoke with had never worked with LC, but did at least look it up on the Mayo Clinic website, so she was quoting it to me over the phone, especially the part about diarrhea being a prime feature. I do not have D but have intense nausea and weakness when reacting, and am prone to C. I actually sat down and asked myself if I had the energy to teach her about LC, my Enterolab tests, already being gf/df/sf/ and egg free and what all I've learned this past year.

I decided that I did not have the energy nor did I want to pay her so I could teach her about LC. So I ordered my tests through True Health Labs online, received the book I mentioned and I get 1 free consultation with their dietician, which I have not used yet. I felt my diet was better off in my hands, as you said. The combined knowledge of our group can not be beat. Beside I expect when it's all said and done my diet will still be so limited that I can probably figure out a rotation diet (if one is needed) based on the info in the book.

It made sense to me to keep my diet the same and add 1 thing at a time. Do you think 3 days would be enough? I would think so, but would like to know from someone who has been there.

thanks again,
Carol
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Hi Carol,

I added one new food a day, but remember that I had been in fairly good (but not perfect) control for many years, avoiding all of the major sensitivities. I think if I were you, I think I would wait 2 or 3 days before adding a new one. Just MHO! Good luck!!!

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Hi Carol,

I kind of ignored your question about 3 days (sorry) since we are all so different about reaction time, as well as how we react. My reaction is always with D. (and sometimes nausea), and also seems to occur within 24 hours, so it is probably easier and quicker for me to tell.

It sounds like your reaction pattern is quite different, so you will probably be your own best judge in determining what works. Reading some of your history, I would say 3 days sounds like a reasonable amount of time. Perhaps someone else will chime in with better advise on that question.

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Polly, Thanks so much- I appreciate your opinion on this.

I think I'll get cleaner trials if I try the new food for 3 days in a row--although if I'm really going to react I'll probably know it within 12-24 hours after I eat it. This will take me longer to get through my trial foods but I'm okay with that as long as I get good data.

thanks again,
Carol
BTW-- this is day 2 of apricots and they are like manna from heaven. :grin:

Edit_- Kari, we must have been typing at the same time. I appreciate your opinion on the 3 days. It's not that I can't get D, but I have also had reactions of aching all over (when I tried peanut butter) or nausea and fatigue. I've gotten D with acidic foods but I'm not leaning toward trying them right away anyway. Nausea and discomfort, malaise and mucus are reactions for me.
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Kari wrote:I went through a dietitian for my MRT, and unfortunately for me I listened to her and included too many foods too quickly - it was an unmitigated disaster. I was keeping a very accurate food log at the time, and had been doing pretty well on my own, so I quickly realized that I needed to take the food management back into my own hands, and stopped consulting her.
I had the same experience as Kari. My dietician wanted me to try new foods and I went downhill quickly and took a long time to recover. She didn't have any knowledge about MC or mast cells. I did best when I ate the foods that I knew from my experience were safe.

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Post by Lesley »

Same here Carol. I gave up on her ideas and just followed a combo of enterolab and MRT, adding in one new food at a time.

Going through an inexperienced dietician was a total waste of money, which I do NOT have. When I think that the full price would have been 2x what I paid anyway I am horrified.
Frankly, I would advise anyone who does MRT to do it on their own, and rely on the combined experience of the board members. Works much better that way!
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