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The website you gave is excellent. Your situation is a little more complex because you can't have either cornstarch or potato starch. You do need starch in your flour mix, so your best bets are tapioca starch or arrowroot.

You might find this thread to be helpful:
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13389

I started out with a basic mix I found in one of Carol Fenster's cookbooks. It was for 4 1/2 cups of mix, and I cut it down to 1½ cup. I stopped making large batches of GF flour mixes when I realized that I couldn't depend on being able to use all of the different flours in the mix. Now I just make the amount of flour I need for the baking session.

Here is Carol's basic mix:

BASIC FLOUR BLEND by Carol Fenster, makes 4 ½ cups
1½ cups sorghum flour
1½ cups potato starch, cornstarch, or amaranth starch (I've never seen this)
1 cup tapioca flour
½ cup corn flour, almond flour, bean flour, chestnut flour, buckwheat flour or quinoa flour


I first revised the mix so that it made 1½ cups:

1/2 cup sorghum flour
1/2 cup potato starch, cornstarch, or amaranth starch
5 Tbsp. tapioca flour
3 Tbsp. corn flour, almond flour, bean flour, chestnut flour, buckwheat flour or quinoa flour


As I became intolerant to most of the starches and flours in the mix, I began substituting the starches (tapioca flour is considered a starch) and the protein flours.

A sample mix adapted for your intolerances would look like this:

1/2 cup quinoa flour
1/2 cup tapioca starch
5 Tbsp. arrowroot
3 Tbsp. almond flour

I've never used both tapioca starch and arrowroot in the same mix. To me, they are the same, except tapioca starch is much cheaper. I buy arrowroot in a 20 oz. bag at Whole Foods for $6 or so. You probably could eliminate the arrowroot and replace it with almond flour. OMO, quinoa flour is the closest flour to wheat flour, minus the gluten, of course. Blanched almond flour (w/o the skins) works best for baking, but it is difficult to find. That's why I make my own from the pulp leftover from making almond milk.

Without arrowroot, your mixture would look like this:

1/2 cup quinoa flour
1/2 cup tapioca starch
1/2 cup almond flour

It will take some time to experiment with the different flours. Tapioca and arrowroot are binders and 1/2 cup might be too much. You might want to cut down the tapioca and increase the quinoa flour. The above mix would probably work well for muffins, but you might need a different combination for biscuits and other baked goods. As the "Gluten-free mommy" writes:
Is there a “magic blend” of gluten-free flours that will work for all recipes?

Unfortunately, no! For optimal results, I think it is best for your muffin, cake, or brownie gluten-free baking mix to look very different from the one you use for pizza or bread! That is why I keep a lot of my flours separate so that I can mix them around as needed for recipes. On this blog, I spell out exactly which flours I use in each recipe so that you will know. It is hard with so many choices out there, but I have come to think of my flours as a collection!
It sounds like you are determined to do this, so I think you'll be successful. Don't get discouraged when your products don't turn out like you want them. Learn from your mistakes and move on. I burned the tops of some almond muffins the other day, but I'll still eat them. Next time I'll reduce the time in my convection oven. I think I'm throwing out my homemade polenta, though. :smile:

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Thank you Gloria for all your efforts. I didn't see your current post and just asked finished writing a question in Dee's food section. I will go back and read what you wrote above.

I quickly found Almond flour mentioned. I couldn't find any this morning.

My tapioca flour says on the label, Tapioca Flour also known as Tapioca Starch, so that could be used for the starch.
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Terrific into, Gloria!
Charlotte, I have many of the same restrictions as you, though I can have potatoes and oats. My biggest problem is chook, as Gabes calls it. I miss it so.

I LOVE lamb. It's a delectable meat. For roasting I chop up rosemary, mint (unless I am using mint sauce, a classic with lamb), garlic, or garlic salt, finely grated lemon zest, all mixed with olive oil and rubbed all over the chop or the leg of lamb. With the leg I also make pockets and put some of the seasoning in them.
In the table top oven I can make roasted potatoes and onions with the lamb. It makes a terrific meal, with great left overs.

Gabes - this would go great with na'an! I haven't tried to make it yet.
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Gloria, I made a second trip to Sprouts Market today to get flour. When I got home I dumped out my container of Baking Powder with a date of 2002 on the bottom. I made a batch of BP with Cream of Tartar, Baking Soda, and Arrowroot and put it back in the container. I wrote the ingredients on the container so I would have it when this is used.

Then I made your flour mixture number 3 above, the one with the Tapioca, Quinoa, Almond and Arrowroot. Put it in a plastic bag to get the ingredients mixed and then set out to make the oil biscuits. The batter was pretty thin so I added more flour mixture. They spread out in the oven so they looked like big fat cookies. When they came out of the oven I ate one while it was hot with Earth Balance soy free spread. It was so delicious I ate another one. I thought as long as my kitchen was such a mess (flour all over) and the oven was still hot I would make another batch.

Because I only had about 2 T of Arrowroot left I decided to try the second recipe. This time I didn't mix the oil and water together as the directions said. I put the oil into the flour mixture and mixed it like you would a pie crust. Then I added 1/2 cup of almond milk rather than 3/4 cup and this was a better consistency. For this batch I used "convection" to bake them and they turned out good. I know because I ate a third biscuit. I got 8 biscuits out of one recipe. Now they will go in the freezer and I will take one out every day.

The reason I didn't mix the milk and oil together the second time is because the first time I put 1/4 cup of coconut oil in the measuring cup and filled the cup with 3/4 cup milk. Because the milk was cold, the oil got hard and I had a mess in the measuring cup. It wouldn't mix and I also was afraid the oil wouldn't be distributed throughout the flour. I was forced to use the whole cup of liquid which made the dough too thin.

The three small bags of flour were $26. plus the Arrowroot was .49 cents an ounce. This GF baking becomes expensive but the biscuits are a nice addition to my limited diet. Next I will experiment some more with Tortillas.

So Gloria, I want to THANK YOU SO VERY VERY MUCH for this flour mixture recipe. I hope others are able to benefit from your efforts.
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I will! Thank you Gloria.
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I'm so happy that you were able to make your biscuits! It's so nice to add something new when we have a limited diet. I hope you can have success with the tortillas, too.

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Thanks for the reminder as to the right amounts and flours to blend
my naan bread mix has gone a bit heywire as i changed the mix slightly

The outlay for the flours may not be cheap, but i find these type of home made snacks are still cheaper than commercial made ones, and the flour mix is way better for me.
the outlets that sell my flours, have a 20% off day once a month, that is why i buy mine and it keeps the budget happy.
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