I Finally Get It

Deb · Post by **Deb** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:30 am

Sheila, this company http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/ ... kfast.html has a lot of good spices and spice blends. I believe they're all gluten free. I like this breakfast sausage seasoning. They also have things like bratwurst seasoning, etc. There are a lot of recipes for making your own spice mixes online if you prefer that.

Sheila · Post by **Sheila** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:35 am

Thanks, Deb. I can already taste those homemade brats and maple breakfast sausage!! In most MC homes we don't have food, we have ingredients to make food. It's like time travel in reverse.

Sheila W

Post by **tex** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:19 am

Deb,

Thanks for the link. That looks like a good mix.

Tex

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:35 pm

Hi Sheila. I don't know if you do nut butters, but one of the things I like to eat is rice cakes spread with nut butter. It's crunchy, filling and very satisfying- especially if you have two :) Is not eating the sausage part of the Paleo thing? Just curious because i eat certain sausages and seem okay with them.

Leah

Sheila · Post by **Sheila** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:20 pm

Hi Leah,
I guess strict Paleo doesn't allow rice (or rice cakes) or sausage. I assume nut butters are also a no-no. I LOVE sausage and if I have to eat meat for breakfast it's going to be sausage. I just sent for sausage seasonings and will make my own to avoid soy, nitrates or artificial color and flavoring. I ordered spices to make a kielbasa type sausage and breakfast sausage. I have no idea how it will turn out but it's worth a try. Jones sausage is a good store bought alternative.

The less strict paleo diet allows 3 "free" meals a week when you can eat things that aren't strictly paleo. It's day two and I've already eaten two things I shouldn't have. On the other hand, Cordain does say to start slowly and I'm starting very slowly. There are no more brownies, english muffins, cereal, almond milk, potatoes etc. I'm having chicken salad for breakfast tomorrow. So weird! I am really tired of thinking about food all the time, planning menus for all three meals every single day. However, you really can't just fly by the seat of your pants with this diet. Once it becomes the new norm, it should be easier. Thanks for your suggestions. I had risotto with asparagus for dinner so I did have rice.

Sheila W

brandy · Post by **brandy** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:20 pm

Hi Sheila,

I'm a work in progress when it comes to paleo. I saw you previous post about bacon and I think you are right about bacon but there is no way I can give up my uncured bacon yet. I'm going to get his first book to further educate myself. I read your previous post about rice for dinner and I was hungry so I added rice to my dinner. Rice, 3 strips uncured bacon and spaghetti squash with fresh basil and parsley sauteed in olive oil. I guess I was vegetable compliant for dinner. Until my rice for dinner I was paleo compliant all day. I've probably had two days in the past week that were paleo compliant and those were days that the starch was sweet potato and he seems ok with that. Life is kind of funny when rice is an "illicit" item.

The boyfriend is pretty good at getting foods from Publix but I'm thinking he needs to work on his hunting/fishing skills so I can be more compliant with the paleo rules. Alligator Bear Bison (buffalo) Caribou Elk Emu Goose Kangaroo duck cervena deer Ostrich Pheasant Quail Rattlesnake Reindeer Squab Turtle Venison Wild boar Wild turkey FishBass Bluefish Cod Drum Eel Flatfish Grouper Haddock Halibut Herring Mackerel Monkfish Mullet Northern pike Orange roughy Perch Red snapper Rockfish Salmon Scrod Shark Striped bass Sunfish Tilapia Trout Tuna Turbot Walleye

PS. I think the paleo stuff is helping. Maybe just having less foods from packages is helpful. Brandy

Deb · Post by **Deb** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:08 am

It appears that certain bacons are okay on paleo.
http://robbwolf.com/2011/05/20/the-path ... red-bacon/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-quick- ... z1wvKssFcc

I think the issues are the nitrates and additives.

Post by **tex** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:57 am

Uncured bacon is just pork belly -- why wouldn't it be a paleo food?

Tex

Sheila · Post by **Sheila** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:08 am

Nitrates are the issue with bacon and sausage and also the amount of fat. Jones Sausage is GF and also free of nitrates. I love kielbasa and will try making my own with the spices from Penzeys. I really can't see myself curing my own bacon but #1 son might do it for me. He loves to do stuff like that although he gets mixed results. ;-0 He has a source for local venison where he lives and I may bring back a supply next time I visit him. That list of acceptable protein is really funny. I doubt I would eat most of it even if it was available.

Chicken salad for breakfast was a first but it was filling and I'll add that to the list of okay breakfasts. Probably not strictly paleo but pretty close using a small amount of canola mayo, almonds, apples and onion. From what I read in the book, we are encouraged to start slowly. I feel somewhat better this morning and I think one reason is all the brownies are gone and my sugar intake has decreased. Breaks my heart. I knew all along that those danged brownies were terrible for me but they are just so delicious. You would not know they are GF.

I will try to find a bacon without nitrates. I'm looking forward to a BLT for one of my "free" meals.

It is so hard to change life long habits of eating. Food is such a source of comfort. Eating this way is darn hard, time consuming, expensive and often discouraging. This Board makes it easier and is a blessing for all of the information and understanding found here.

Sheila W :bigbighug:

brandy · Post by **brandy** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:30 pm

Hmmmm, everyone thinks Florida is all condos and palm trees but believe it or not we have a lot of wild hogs that people hunt in North Florida. I think Dr. Cordaine isn't big on bacon because of the nitrates and because it isn't lean. Bacon is paleo enough for me.

Sheila I was wondering how you are doing on paleo? Yesterday I was 100% paleo (if bacon is ok) but most days I'm realistically 80% maybe a little more on occasion. Brandy

Post by **tex** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:48 pm

brandy wrote:Hmmmm, everyone thinks Florida is all condos and palm trees but believe it or not we have a lot of wild hogs that people hunt in North Florida. I think Dr. Cordaine isn't big on bacon because of the nitrates and because it isn't lean. Bacon is paleo enough for me.

Apparently, Dr. Cordain has never eaten a truly wild hog. Some of the feral pigs get as fat as, well -- hogs, but true wild swine tend to be lean and mean, and some of the feral hogs eventually get that way if they crossbreed with the Russian boars. Typically, unless they live in farming country, they're only fat in the fall, when acorns are available.

As far as I can tell, the methods by which meat is preserved or prepared has little to do with it's status as a paleo food. Unless Loren Cordain runs down his protein and kills it with a club or a lance, and then sears it over an open campfire, why would he try to dictate to anyone how to prepare their paleo meats? Wild swine existed in paleo times, and they certainly had porkbellies (the source of bacon), so all types of pork should qualify as a paleo food, IMO. Dr. Cordain sometimes lets his fitness illusions overwhelm his concept of the realities of the paleo diet. The paleo people ate plenty of fat, whenever it was available to them, but this was often a seasonal option, (except for tribes such as the Inuits).

Tex

carolm · Post by **carolm** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:50 pm

Brandy, that's quite a hunting and fishing list you have. Let us know how you prepare that rattlesnake, ok?

C.

Post by **tex** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:33 pm

Carol,

Of course Brandy may have a different opinion, but having tried it grilled, fried, and deep-fried, as far as I'm concerned, deep-fried is definitely the way to go.

Tex

carolm · Post by **carolm** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:39 pm

Deep fried in gluten free batter of course.

I know a couple of people who have tried rattlesnake.... but I never will. Just can't get past the idea. It may be Paleo but I think I'll just skip that part of the diet.

C.

Post by **tex** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:50 pm

I don't blame you. I did that before my symptoms started, and though the deep-fried version especially, was really quite tasty, I notice that I haven't had any uncontrollable urges to go out and round up a rattlesnake and go to the trouble of processing it and cooking it.

Tex