Hi,
If you've ever doubted that vitamin D has antibacterial properties, please read this brief news item:
http://blog.vitamindcouncil.org/2012/06 ... s-in-cows/
Tex
Proof Of Antibacterial Properties For Vitamin D
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Proof Of Antibacterial Properties For Vitamin D
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Tex,
Thanks for sharing. As you know I am a true believer in vitamin D (I take no other vitamins). The evidence for its amazing properties just keeps piling up, doesn't it? I started taking it about 4 years ago, and I have not had one infection, cold, or flu since (Knock wood!). And, you will remember, prior to that I spent several years with a chronic sinus infection that necessitated multiple courses of various antibiotics and 2 sinus surgeries to clear it up.
Love,
Polly
Thanks for sharing. As you know I am a true believer in vitamin D (I take no other vitamins). The evidence for its amazing properties just keeps piling up, doesn't it? I started taking it about 4 years ago, and I have not had one infection, cold, or flu since (Knock wood!). And, you will remember, prior to that I spent several years with a chronic sinus infection that necessitated multiple courses of various antibiotics and 2 sinus surgeries to clear it up.
Love,
Polly
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
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Hi Polly,
Considering your regular routine of exposure to arguably the best vectors in the world, for bacteria and viruses, (kids LOL), that's an extremely impressive record. If you don't mind sharing, at what level do you try to maintain your 25(OH)D level? I've been trying to get my level back up into the upper part of the normal range, but for the past couple of years, it's been stuck at 46 mg/mL. Even so, I've forgotten when I had my last cold (it's been at least a couple of years), but I tend to minimize getting out in public, so I'm not regularly exposed to any significant cold or flu virus risks. My biggest risk probably occurs when I have an appointment to see my doctor, because there's always someone in the waiting room coughing, etc. LOL.
Love,
Tex
Considering your regular routine of exposure to arguably the best vectors in the world, for bacteria and viruses, (kids LOL), that's an extremely impressive record. If you don't mind sharing, at what level do you try to maintain your 25(OH)D level? I've been trying to get my level back up into the upper part of the normal range, but for the past couple of years, it's been stuck at 46 mg/mL. Even so, I've forgotten when I had my last cold (it's been at least a couple of years), but I tend to minimize getting out in public, so I'm not regularly exposed to any significant cold or flu virus risks. My biggest risk probably occurs when I have an appointment to see my doctor, because there's always someone in the waiting room coughing, etc. LOL.
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Tex,
Funny, but my last value was 46 too! I had cut back from 5000 IUs/day to 3000. My best thinking is that the minimal level of 25(OH)D to aim for is 40; however, I believe 60-80 is probably more optimal from what I've read. I am due for another test soon so will let you know when I have the result. What is your thinking about the optimal level?
Love,
Polly
Funny, but my last value was 46 too! I had cut back from 5000 IUs/day to 3000. My best thinking is that the minimal level of 25(OH)D to aim for is 40; however, I believe 60-80 is probably more optimal from what I've read. I am due for another test soon so will let you know when I have the result. What is your thinking about the optimal level?
Love,
Polly
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
Polly,
I totally agree with you, and that's the range I hope to land in. Thank you for your insight.
Love,
Tex
I totally agree with you, and that's the range I hope to land in. Thank you for your insight.
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Polly,
Do you ever recommend high doses of Vit D for sick children? My son is suffering with high fevers and pneumonia which may be secondary to an unknown virus, and I'm now wondering what I can do to supplement the augmentin, and as of tonight, azythromycin. He usually takes gummy C and D, but would a higher dose of D help at all? What about coconut oil? Oil pulling perhaps? We are avoiding milk except for yogurt. The doc told me to get a probiotic, so I bought $32 kids chewable Culturelle. We are starting day 9 of this horrendous illness and I need my little boy back!!
Do you ever recommend high doses of Vit D for sick children? My son is suffering with high fevers and pneumonia which may be secondary to an unknown virus, and I'm now wondering what I can do to supplement the augmentin, and as of tonight, azythromycin. He usually takes gummy C and D, but would a higher dose of D help at all? What about coconut oil? Oil pulling perhaps? We are avoiding milk except for yogurt. The doc told me to get a probiotic, so I bought $32 kids chewable Culturelle. We are starting day 9 of this horrendous illness and I need my little boy back!!
Hi Z,
Sorry to hear about your sick little boy.
And in this heat! There are still folks without power here, although the storm was almost a week ago.
Were they ever able to isolate a bug, perhaps from his blood? I know large doses of D have been used with success in acute infections. It's not SOP, of course, but if it were my child, I'd probably consider it. Did he ever have a baseline 25(OH)D? Probably not - we don't routinely do it in Peds.
Fingers crossed that he turns the corner soon.
Hugs,
Polly
Sorry to hear about your sick little boy.
And in this heat! There are still folks without power here, although the storm was almost a week ago.Were they ever able to isolate a bug, perhaps from his blood? I know large doses of D have been used with success in acute infections. It's not SOP, of course, but if it were my child, I'd probably consider it. Did he ever have a baseline 25(OH)D? Probably not - we don't routinely do it in Peds.
Fingers crossed that he turns the corner soon.
Hugs,
Polly
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
Polly,
My son has never had bloodwork, even with this illness. His peds seem rather conservative, not wanting to order chest X-rays without good reason either. Luckily we have our favorite doc following his case and calling us daily (on days we don't go in to see him). We went almost 4 days on augmentin and the fevers still exceeded 101 at night, so now they are treating for mycoplasma. I noticed your post about drug resistance and read that M Pneumoniae is increasingly resistant to Zithromax. I hope that's not the case here!! I'm actually surprised Zithromax can attack any mycoplasma.
I'll give my son a couple of sprays of D today (2000 iu).
My son has never had bloodwork, even with this illness. His peds seem rather conservative, not wanting to order chest X-rays without good reason either. Luckily we have our favorite doc following his case and calling us daily (on days we don't go in to see him). We went almost 4 days on augmentin and the fevers still exceeded 101 at night, so now they are treating for mycoplasma. I noticed your post about drug resistance and read that M Pneumoniae is increasingly resistant to Zithromax. I hope that's not the case here!! I'm actually surprised Zithromax can attack any mycoplasma.
I'll give my son a couple of sprays of D today (2000 iu).
Zizzle,
FWIW, 2,000 IU of vitamin D daily is a supplemental dose. A therapeutic dose would be on the order of 1,000 IU per pound of body weight, per day, for roughly a week. Here is Dr. Cannell's suggested vitamin D treatment regimen for bird flu, for example:
Remember the year that bird flu was supposed to develop into a pandemic? About the time it got going pretty good here in Texas (and Mexico), I started having flu symptoms a few days after a routine doctor appointment (the waiting room was filled with sneezing, coughing patients). On the second day of symptoms, I started taking 150,000 IU of vitamin D3 per day, and after a couple of days, my symptoms began to fade away, so I stopped taking it after about 4 days. I had no ill effects from the large doses that I could detect.
Tex
FWIW, 2,000 IU of vitamin D daily is a supplemental dose. A therapeutic dose would be on the order of 1,000 IU per pound of body weight, per day, for roughly a week. Here is Dr. Cannell's suggested vitamin D treatment regimen for bird flu, for example:
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/news-arc ... vitamin-d/Stock your home's pharmacy with several fresh bottles of 50,000 IU capsules of Vitamin D3 (a medicine at this dosage, not a supplement) and if you get this flu, take 2,000 IU per kg of body weight per day for a week. As I weigh 220 pounds, I would take 200,000 IU per day for seven days if I thought I had an infection with a 1918-like influenza virus.
Remember the year that bird flu was supposed to develop into a pandemic? About the time it got going pretty good here in Texas (and Mexico), I started having flu symptoms a few days after a routine doctor appointment (the waiting room was filled with sneezing, coughing patients). On the second day of symptoms, I started taking 150,000 IU of vitamin D3 per day, and after a couple of days, my symptoms began to fade away, so I stopped taking it after about 4 days. I had no ill effects from the large doses that I could detect.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.