I can't eat rice. So said enterolab.
Amber - grass fed ground beef is way cheaper than other meats, and is good for you. Much better than anything with hormones, soy etc. It's something you could try as a basic protein for a bit, adding to it as you feel better.
Mild white fish is usually acceptable to those of us who can't take many, many foods.
What diets have helped you?
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Good to know Lesley! I actually started Paleo mainly because I was eating a lot of rice since it was one of the few gluten free things I could figure out how to make my freshman year in the dorms, and I noticed it was making me feel really bad. I've been craving it lately though so I might test it out just to see. When I was younger the doctors used to make me eat the "brat" foods (bananas, rice, apples, toast) so I think I still gravitate towards those foods when I'm sick. These last few days I've been doing soup instead.
I know I should be eating organic, grass-fed meat, but unfortunately I'm on a super tight budget. I might try to see if there's some way I can rework my budget to try it though.
On the bright side, I seem to be having a better day today. I've had 5 or 6 trips to the bathroom with D this afternoon, but my pain is finally gone so at least that's something!
I know I should be eating organic, grass-fed meat, but unfortunately I'm on a super tight budget. I might try to see if there's some way I can rework my budget to try it though.
On the bright side, I seem to be having a better day today. I've had 5 or 6 trips to the bathroom with D this afternoon, but my pain is finally gone so at least that's something!
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The surprising thing is that the BRAT diet, minus the toast, and using applesauce instead of apples for the A, is generally a pretty decent diet for most of us (except those few who, like Lesley, can't tolerate the rice, and another small handful who can't handle the fructose - fruit sugar). Before you get too concerned about chicken and rice, unless you really have a reason to suspect those, I'd make sure you have really gotten rid of the "big 4" - gluten, dairy, soy, and egg. Tex, our resident expert and the author of a soon-to-be-published book on MC, says that virtually all of us are sensitive to gluten and dairy, and about half of us are sensitive to soy. That's the best place to start. Also eliminate raw fruit and vegetables for now, until you are really healing well, because the fiber can increase the inflammation. Eat only well-cooked fruit and vegetables, rice, potatoes, and protein, and see if you improve. You may find other things will surface eventually, and you'll almost certainly be able to tolerate more once you are healed, but start very simply and read every label, including any vitamins or supplements you are taking.
I can't remember now if anyone asked you about drugs you are taking - sometimes this is caused by a specific drug, and getting off that can return you all the way back to normal. Certain kinds of drugs are especially notable for causing MC so don't ignore that possibility either.
Anyway, just wanted to encourage you to keep reading here and evaluating (a food journal can be really helpful with this process). But start with the basics. On this board, believe it or not, you don't have to assume you're the unusual one - we all are, and many of us are pleasantly surprised to find at least at first that the basics really do help - at the very least cutting out those things shows us enough results to give us hope that we WILL eventually get our lives back!
Deanna
I can't remember now if anyone asked you about drugs you are taking - sometimes this is caused by a specific drug, and getting off that can return you all the way back to normal. Certain kinds of drugs are especially notable for causing MC so don't ignore that possibility either.
Anyway, just wanted to encourage you to keep reading here and evaluating (a food journal can be really helpful with this process). But start with the basics. On this board, believe it or not, you don't have to assume you're the unusual one - we all are, and many of us are pleasantly surprised to find at least at first that the basics really do help - at the very least cutting out those things shows us enough results to give us hope that we WILL eventually get our lives back!
Deanna
Hi Amber,
I have also been struggling with what to eat that does not cause pain or D. Started out trying to do SCD. Even bought the yogurt maker. Couldn't even tolerate the 24 hour yogurt. Started a food journal 2 months ago. I make notes each day if I have pain or D after eating. Early on legumes (peas and beans) seemed to be a problem, so I eliminated those. There were still far too many days with pain. My PALEO books arrived last week and I started following that diet. On Friday I had one boiled egg for the protein part of my breakfast. I thought I'd never make it through the day as I was in so much pain. It came on in less than an hour and lasted all day.
Thank goodness for the food diary. Looking back it all started to make sense, and I was blaming the wrong foods. On SCD I had made a casserole with cauliflower, cheese, and eggs. I blamed the cauliflower for pain. I had made egg salad with a gluten free mayo. I was blaming the mayo. Devilled eggs. I was blaming the mayo. So now after two whole months (and thanks to that single boiled egg) I know that I can't tolerate EGGS. So now I am PALEO without eggs.
I have not had the Enterolab testing or the MRT test. Both are very expensive. Until then it is trial and error. I can certainly sympathize with you on the trial and error method. It is tough! Without eggs, I have now had 4 whole days without pain! Just hope it continues.
You are so young to be dealing with all of this. Start that food diary, and keep us informed as to how things are going. Good luck! We all want you to feel better!
Marion
I have also been struggling with what to eat that does not cause pain or D. Started out trying to do SCD. Even bought the yogurt maker. Couldn't even tolerate the 24 hour yogurt. Started a food journal 2 months ago. I make notes each day if I have pain or D after eating. Early on legumes (peas and beans) seemed to be a problem, so I eliminated those. There were still far too many days with pain. My PALEO books arrived last week and I started following that diet. On Friday I had one boiled egg for the protein part of my breakfast. I thought I'd never make it through the day as I was in so much pain. It came on in less than an hour and lasted all day.
Thank goodness for the food diary. Looking back it all started to make sense, and I was blaming the wrong foods. On SCD I had made a casserole with cauliflower, cheese, and eggs. I blamed the cauliflower for pain. I had made egg salad with a gluten free mayo. I was blaming the mayo. Devilled eggs. I was blaming the mayo. So now after two whole months (and thanks to that single boiled egg) I know that I can't tolerate EGGS. So now I am PALEO without eggs.
I have not had the Enterolab testing or the MRT test. Both are very expensive. Until then it is trial and error. I can certainly sympathize with you on the trial and error method. It is tough! Without eggs, I have now had 4 whole days without pain! Just hope it continues.
You are so young to be dealing with all of this. Start that food diary, and keep us informed as to how things are going. Good luck! We all want you to feel better!
Marion
Marion wrote:Without eggs, I have now had 4 whole days without pain! Just hope it continues.
Good detective work.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Leah,
There are far too many things that have egg or a multitude of other ingredients that are not allowed (mayo being one of them). It gets discouraging!
Some days I just get tired even thinking about what I can or can't eat.
What are the simple things (or things that require some time in the kitchen) that you might take to work? I used to enjoy cooking! I pretty much like everything! Here it is after 7 pm, and I don't even know what I want for supper (yes I do, everything that is not allowed). I can't even go there.
The good news is that I do have access to a microwave oven at work.
Do you have a favorite chicken soup recipe? I have been craving a legal chicken soup. And have you ever discovered a can of soup that is gluten free and dairy free? I'd love to discover some ready made items that I can take to work when I just don't have time in my kitchen.
Marion
There are far too many things that have egg or a multitude of other ingredients that are not allowed (mayo being one of them). It gets discouraging!
Some days I just get tired even thinking about what I can or can't eat.
What are the simple things (or things that require some time in the kitchen) that you might take to work? I used to enjoy cooking! I pretty much like everything! Here it is after 7 pm, and I don't even know what I want for supper (yes I do, everything that is not allowed). I can't even go there.
The good news is that I do have access to a microwave oven at work.
Do you have a favorite chicken soup recipe? I have been craving a legal chicken soup. And have you ever discovered a can of soup that is gluten free and dairy free? I'd love to discover some ready made items that I can take to work when I just don't have time in my kitchen.
Marion
Hi Mim. I am lucky in the fact that I work in a gym that is 5 minutes from my house so I don't have to pack lunch. When I do pack things, I usually take plain rice cakes and spread it with almond or sunbutter. and I put some canned peaches in a container. That's usually enough for me.
I haven't searched very hard for canned soup yet. I do make some really good soups and freeze portions. My basic chicken soup is saute onions, carrots, celery and garlic. Add a whole chicken that you have pulled most of the skin off of and then about 8 cups of water. salt and pepper. After about half an hour, I usually pull out the breast meat because I don't like it over cooked to add back in later. Then I let it simmer for at least two hours. I stain the whole thing into another pot. Then I add fresh cut up carrots and cook them about 10 minutes. T the last minute, I add the chicken breast meat I saved and sometimes I add either cooked rice or cooked rice/corn pasta. it's a lot of work, but it's so good and it "feels" good when you eat it.
Another soup I make is a butternut squash soup that has a little mild curry and coconut milk. Yum
I always have frozen turkey Patties and hamburger patties in the freezer for a pretty quick meal. I also always have a roasted chicken in my fridge. I think I can tolerate more than you can,so my side dishes are broader ( like beans and some fruit). I try to bake a couple of white sweet potatoes so I have them on hand and I roast a lot of veggies. ... does any of that help?
I haven't searched very hard for canned soup yet. I do make some really good soups and freeze portions. My basic chicken soup is saute onions, carrots, celery and garlic. Add a whole chicken that you have pulled most of the skin off of and then about 8 cups of water. salt and pepper. After about half an hour, I usually pull out the breast meat because I don't like it over cooked to add back in later. Then I let it simmer for at least two hours. I stain the whole thing into another pot. Then I add fresh cut up carrots and cook them about 10 minutes. T the last minute, I add the chicken breast meat I saved and sometimes I add either cooked rice or cooked rice/corn pasta. it's a lot of work, but it's so good and it "feels" good when you eat it.
Another soup I make is a butternut squash soup that has a little mild curry and coconut milk. Yum
I always have frozen turkey Patties and hamburger patties in the freezer for a pretty quick meal. I also always have a roasted chicken in my fridge. I think I can tolerate more than you can,so my side dishes are broader ( like beans and some fruit). I try to bake a couple of white sweet potatoes so I have them on hand and I roast a lot of veggies. ... does any of that help?
Hi Leah,
This weekend I will have to do some cooking. I love curry and butternut squash. Have you posted that recipe? Will also try chicken soup.
I am on about day 5 of eating cantaloupe and strawberries in the morning. I seem to be OK with them. Just getting sick of the same thing every day. Peaches sound like a good change.
Lunch was a leftover hamburg patty and butternut squash.
Snack was a few almonds.
Really haven't felt the greatest today, and didn't even want supper. Had a few forkfuls of beef.
I know I haven't eaten enough today. Brought home leftovers in all containers. Just have no appetite. I have lost 7 pounds (which is a good thing), but didn't want it to be a result of feeling sick all of the time.
Ill be going out to dinner tomorrow. The restaurant has a gluten free menu. Haven't decided yet between salmon or beef with vegetables.
Marion
This weekend I will have to do some cooking. I love curry and butternut squash. Have you posted that recipe? Will also try chicken soup.
I am on about day 5 of eating cantaloupe and strawberries in the morning. I seem to be OK with them. Just getting sick of the same thing every day. Peaches sound like a good change.
Lunch was a leftover hamburg patty and butternut squash.
Snack was a few almonds.
Really haven't felt the greatest today, and didn't even want supper. Had a few forkfuls of beef.
I know I haven't eaten enough today. Brought home leftovers in all containers. Just have no appetite. I have lost 7 pounds (which is a good thing), but didn't want it to be a result of feeling sick all of the time.
Ill be going out to dinner tomorrow. The restaurant has a gluten free menu. Haven't decided yet between salmon or beef with vegetables.
Marion
Hi Marion. I haven't posted the butternut squash soup recipe, but here it is. Feel free to leave out anything you can't have. It will still be good.
I saute 1 onion and a couple cloves of garlic in coconut oil. I add 5-6 cups of chicken broth, 1 squash peeled, cut up ( or I buy ready to cook in a bag -2 of them) and about half a head of cauliflower ( or 1 bag of ready cut up). Then I add about 1/2- 1 tsp. of mild curry powder, 2 bay leaves, freshly minced ginger ( or some powder), salt and pepper ( I use a lot of pepper because I can't use red pepper to spice it up).
Just cook this until all is soft ( 45 min.or so). Remove bay leaves) Use an emersion blender and blend until smooth. If you don't have one, you'll have to put it in a blender in batches. Last but not least, add half a can of lowfat or regular coconut milk. This makes it creamy and delicious. Enjoy!
Sorry that it's not written like a real recipe. I kind of wing it in the kitchen. Let me know if you try it and tell me what you think.
Leah
I saute 1 onion and a couple cloves of garlic in coconut oil. I add 5-6 cups of chicken broth, 1 squash peeled, cut up ( or I buy ready to cook in a bag -2 of them) and about half a head of cauliflower ( or 1 bag of ready cut up). Then I add about 1/2- 1 tsp. of mild curry powder, 2 bay leaves, freshly minced ginger ( or some powder), salt and pepper ( I use a lot of pepper because I can't use red pepper to spice it up).
Just cook this until all is soft ( 45 min.or so). Remove bay leaves) Use an emersion blender and blend until smooth. If you don't have one, you'll have to put it in a blender in batches. Last but not least, add half a can of lowfat or regular coconut milk. This makes it creamy and delicious. Enjoy!
Sorry that it's not written like a real recipe. I kind of wing it in the kitchen. Let me know if you try it and tell me what you think.
Leah
Marion,
When I could eat chicken (I miss it so much!) I made the stock with a chicken carcase (if I can get one), feet, necks and backs (from Whole Foods). It makes great, rich stick which you can use for making soup of any type.
I found I can tolerate most veggies in juice, but not raw in salad (which I miss SO much!). The pulp that is left over - I boil it with some onion, strain, and reduce. It makes perfect veggie stock. I add potatoes, and carrots, and I have a great veggie soup.
Beef stock - I roast the bones for a few hours, pour off the fat and simmer them overnight. Then I reduce it and use it for making soups and stews.
I freeze concentrated stocks in ice cube trays, and throw the cubes into ziplock bags. Having them to cook with makes it so much easier.
When I could eat chicken (I miss it so much!) I made the stock with a chicken carcase (if I can get one), feet, necks and backs (from Whole Foods). It makes great, rich stick which you can use for making soup of any type.
I found I can tolerate most veggies in juice, but not raw in salad (which I miss SO much!). The pulp that is left over - I boil it with some onion, strain, and reduce. It makes perfect veggie stock. I add potatoes, and carrots, and I have a great veggie soup.
Beef stock - I roast the bones for a few hours, pour off the fat and simmer them overnight. Then I reduce it and use it for making soups and stews.
I freeze concentrated stocks in ice cube trays, and throw the cubes into ziplock bags. Having them to cook with makes it so much easier.