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Hi Jean,

You asked about the proximity of nerve cells (neurons) to mast cells in IBD. Of course, now I can't find the article I read last week that measured this, but here is an abstract that alludes to an altered relationship between nerve cells and mast cells in the gut in IBD/IBS.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17719089

I'll keep looking......

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Polly,

Pardon me for butting in, but related to this (sort of, though indirectly), have you ever seen this article, that discusses how gut bacteria may possibly be associated with psychiatric issues and other neurological events, how intestinal inflammation may be associated with depression, etc.?

It seems that gut bacteria may have a hand in virtually anything and everything that goes wrong (or right) with us. We are their puppets — they are holding the strings. :lol:

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Tex, I'm intrigued but don't see a URL. As you know, I have great respect for gut bacteria and other "lowlifes"!

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:roll: :oops: :sigh:

I recon my CRS is flaring again. :lol:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... ool=pubmed

Sorry.

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Tex
you expended quite a bit of brain power and energy bringing together and releasing the book, it would take me months to recover from a mission like that.

are you going to send a copy to Dr Fine?
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Hi Gabes.

That's a good question. His research and his lab is presented in a very positive light in the book, but somewhere in it I mention that following a vegetarian or vegan diet is almost impossible with MC for anyone who happens to be sensitive to soy (and legumes). Since he's a vegetarian (or maybe a vegan — (I'm not sure that I could tell the difference), he would probably take exception/offense to that position. :shrug:

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Thanks Polly and Tex for the articles. I have long suspected that my enteric nervous system is malfunctioning in some hard to define way. I have a bunch of weird symptoms that effect my gut and seems neuromuscular in origin but who knows. It is hard for me even to find the language to describe them. I fear that a lifetime of gut problems has done some permanent damage effecting both sensation and function. My current approach is to be scrupulous about the diet and hope that things continue to get better.

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Jean,

I'm sure that I have enteric nerve damage, also. Early on, I lost the ability to feel hunger pangs, and that ability has never returned. Of course, I have a lot of neurological damage to the central nervous system as well, but the point is, IMO, it's certainly possible for gluten to damage both nervous systems.

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I mention that following a vegetarian or vegan diet is almost impossible with MC for anyone who happens to be sensitive to soy (and legumes)
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Tex,

I would send Ken Fine a copy of the book. I think he would appreciate the lab and his work being put in a good light. Our meals at his camp were not vegetarian and he has no expectations for others to eat vegetarian. In fact, they served trout one night at camp and I am pretty sure he had a serving of it.

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Mary Beth,

You know him much better than I do, so I reckon I'll follow your advice.

Thanks, I appreciate your insight,
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