Post-pregnancy flare
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Post-pregnancy flare
Hi all,
It's been months since I've needed to be on here. I had a wonderful second half of my pregnancy where the colitis was in complete remission. I gave birth to my beautiful daughter on October 6, and literally overnight the colitis returned. I'm back on prednisone. Started at 20 mg, but it didn't do anything, so after 10 days I upped it to 40. It's sort of working, but I haven't been wanting to get back on a strict chicken and potato diet (I NEVER want to do that again! Did it for 9 months!), especially due to nursing, so things are stop and start in the D department. Does anyone think it would be helpful to jump onto a course of entocort? My mains symptoms are D and stomach cramping/bloating. I'm trying to eat just protein and potatoes and squash, but my gf brownies have been tempting me. I sent them to work with my husband this morning, so they're out of the house now.
Here is a picture of my beautiful daughter from right after she was born, now almost 1 one month old now. We are so blessed to have her!
Best,
Elizabeth
It's been months since I've needed to be on here. I had a wonderful second half of my pregnancy where the colitis was in complete remission. I gave birth to my beautiful daughter on October 6, and literally overnight the colitis returned. I'm back on prednisone. Started at 20 mg, but it didn't do anything, so after 10 days I upped it to 40. It's sort of working, but I haven't been wanting to get back on a strict chicken and potato diet (I NEVER want to do that again! Did it for 9 months!), especially due to nursing, so things are stop and start in the D department. Does anyone think it would be helpful to jump onto a course of entocort? My mains symptoms are D and stomach cramping/bloating. I'm trying to eat just protein and potatoes and squash, but my gf brownies have been tempting me. I sent them to work with my husband this morning, so they're out of the house now.
Here is a picture of my beautiful daughter from right after she was born, now almost 1 one month old now. We are so blessed to have her!
Best,
Elizabeth
Congratulations on the birth of your daughter Beth! Sorry to hear that the MC came back though. I have never been on Prednisone, but the Entocort worked great for me and it is less invasive to the rest of your system. Remember to drink lots of water so you produce enough milk for your little one :)
Best of luck
Leah
Best of luck
Leah
Hi Elizabeth,
Congratulations on the new bundle of joy.
Regarding the use of budesonide while breastfeeding: Frankly, prednisolone makes me much more nervous than budesonide, but here's what the manufacturer of Entocort EC says:
Tex
Congratulations on the new bundle of joy.
Regarding the use of budesonide while breastfeeding: Frankly, prednisolone makes me much more nervous than budesonide, but here's what the manufacturer of Entocort EC says:
http://www.drugs.com/pregnancy/budesonide.htmlBudesonide Breastfeeding Warnings
Budesonide, like other corticosteroids, is secreted in human milk. Data with budesonide delivered via dry powder inhaler indicates that the total daily oral dose of budesonide in breast milk to the infant is approximately 0.3% to 1% of the dose inhaled by the mother. The manufacturer recommends that caution be used when administering budesonide inhalation to nursing women. The maximum budesonide plasma concentration following a 9 mg daily dose (in both single and repeated dose pharmacokinetic studies) of oral budesonide is approximately 10 times higher than that for a 800 microgram daily dose of inhaled budesonide. Therefore, the manufacturer of oral budesonide recommends that due to the potential for serious adverse reactions in nursing infants, a decision should be made to discontinue nursing or to discontinue the drug, taking into account the clinical importance of the drug to the mother.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Tex - thank you for this. I'm confused about the "inhaled" - does that just mean "ingested"? If you were in my position, would you just try to handle this via diet and perhaps alternative medicine? I am dreading having to do the chicken and potato diet since I really don't have time to juice with a newborn and therefore would have a hard time getting the best nutrition. That's why I opted for medication first, especially to see if a short stint would reset things the way it has done in the past.
Elizabeth,
Budesonide has been available for use in inhalers to treat asthma and similar issues, for a number of years, so more research data were available early on, for that particular use. But it's not the same as oral use. From the quote above, this phrase is probably why the manufacturer is reluctant to recommend oral budesonide:
Controlling your symptoms may be difficult for a while, because certain hormones remain very elevated during lactation. I can't advise you to try this, since I'm not a doctor, but to me, an MC flare due to hormones suggests a possible mast cell issue. Quite a few members here have found that one or more antihistamines seem to work just as well for them as Entocort. Have you ever tried using an antihistamine for controlling your MC symptoms?
Your doctors aren't likely to know anything about using antihistamines to treat MC, but if you are considering taking a corticosteroid while nursing the baby, it would probably be a good idea to discuss that with both your GI specialist and the baby's pediatrician. It is known, for example, (at least it's been shown by research), that waiting approximately 4 hours after taking a dose of prednisone, before allowing a baby to nurse, can reduce the amount of prednosolone (the active ingredient in prednisone) that's transmitted to the baby, to only a relatively small fraction of the amount that would be transmitted if the baby were allowed to nurse within, say, the first hour after taking the prednisone.
Here's some more info on the use of prednisone:
Tex
Budesonide has been available for use in inhalers to treat asthma and similar issues, for a number of years, so more research data were available early on, for that particular use. But it's not the same as oral use. From the quote above, this phrase is probably why the manufacturer is reluctant to recommend oral budesonide:
IOW, this suggests that 3 mg per day (one capsule per day), or every other day, for example, might not be a significant risk, but a full dose of 3 capsules per day might expose a nursing baby to a measurable amount of risk. It's difficult to say, since not enough research has been done to provide any truly conclusive results.a 9 mg daily dose (in both single and repeated dose pharmacokinetic studies) of oral budesonide is approximately 10 times higher than that for a 800 microgram daily dose of inhaled budesonide.
Controlling your symptoms may be difficult for a while, because certain hormones remain very elevated during lactation. I can't advise you to try this, since I'm not a doctor, but to me, an MC flare due to hormones suggests a possible mast cell issue. Quite a few members here have found that one or more antihistamines seem to work just as well for them as Entocort. Have you ever tried using an antihistamine for controlling your MC symptoms?
Your doctors aren't likely to know anything about using antihistamines to treat MC, but if you are considering taking a corticosteroid while nursing the baby, it would probably be a good idea to discuss that with both your GI specialist and the baby's pediatrician. It is known, for example, (at least it's been shown by research), that waiting approximately 4 hours after taking a dose of prednisone, before allowing a baby to nurse, can reduce the amount of prednosolone (the active ingredient in prednisone) that's transmitted to the baby, to only a relatively small fraction of the amount that would be transmitted if the baby were allowed to nurse within, say, the first hour after taking the prednisone.
Here's some more info on the use of prednisone:
http://www.drugs.com/pregnancy/prednisone.htmlPrednisone Breastfeeding Warnings
In one study of six lactating women, prednisolone milk concentrations were 5% to 25% of corresponding serum concentrations. The authors estimated that a nursing infant would be exposed to negligible amounts of drug with maternal doses of 20 to 40 mg per day. The excretion of prednisolone into breast milk has been evaluated in six women on chronic prednisolone therapy. Milk prednisolone concentrations ranged from less than 10 to 106 ng/mL in patients receiving 10 mg to 45 mg per day (N=5). In a patient receiving 80 mg per day, milk prednisolone concentrations ranged from less than 10 ng/mL prior to the morning dose to 317 ng/mL at one hour post-dose. The peak milk to plasma concentration ratio ranged from 0.12 to 0.25. The authors recommend that nursing be withheld for four hours after administration of doses greater than 20 mg. In a recent study, prednisolone excretion into breast milk was evaluated in three women following administration of prednisolone phosphate 50 mg intravenously one time. During the six-hour study period, 0.010% to 0.049% of the administered dose of prednisolone was recovered in breast milk. Nursing infants would be expected to experience minimal exposure. Data from this study also suggest that exchange of unbound prednisolone between breast milk and serum is rapid and bi-directional.
Prednisone and its active metabolite prednisolone are excreted into human milk in small amounts. Animal studies have revealed an increased incidence of cleft palate in offspring. In one study of six lactating women, prednisolone milk concentrations were 5% to 25% of corresponding serum concentrations. The authors estimated that a nursing infant would be exposed to negligible amounts of drug with maternal doses of 20 to 40 mg per day. The excretion of prednisolone into breast milk has been evaluated in six women on chronic prednisolone therapy. Milk prednisolone concentrations ranged from less than 10 to 106 ng/mL in patients receiving 10 mg to 45 mg per day (N=5). In a patient receiving 80 mg per day, milk prednisolone concentrations ranged from less than 10 ng/mL prior to the morning dose to 317 ng/mL at one hour post-dose. The peak milk to plasma concentration ratio ranged from 0.12 to 0.25. The authors recommend that nursing be withheld for four hours after administration of doses greater than 20 mg. In a recent study, prednisolone excretion into breast milk was evaluated in three women following administration of prednisolone phosphate 50 mg intravenously one time. During the six-hour study period, 0.010% to 0.049% of the administered dose of prednisolone was recovered in breast milk. Nursing infants would be expected to experience minimal exposure. Data from this study also suggest that exchange of unbound prednisolone between breast milk and serum is rapid and bi-directional. Prednisone is considered compatible with breast-feeding by the American Academy of Pediatrics. The manufacturer recommends that caution be used when administering prednisone to nursing women.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Beth,
Congratulations on your having a beautiful little girl! I've been wondering how the pregnancy went and if you'd given birth. I'm so glad that your second half was wonderful.
It's unfortunate that your reprieve from the D ended once you gave birth. I really feel for young mothers who have to struggle with this disease. It seems that your options are to take meds with the chance that your daughter will be affected, take only safe meds, or stop nursing and take your meds. These are not the greatest options. It appears that Imodium isn't recommended for nursing or pregnant dogs, so I'd imagine it's also contraindicted for nursing mothers.
Good luck, and enjoy your baby! She's precious.
Gloria
Congratulations on your having a beautiful little girl! I've been wondering how the pregnancy went and if you'd given birth. I'm so glad that your second half was wonderful.
It's unfortunate that your reprieve from the D ended once you gave birth. I really feel for young mothers who have to struggle with this disease. It seems that your options are to take meds with the chance that your daughter will be affected, take only safe meds, or stop nursing and take your meds. These are not the greatest options. It appears that Imodium isn't recommended for nursing or pregnant dogs, so I'd imagine it's also contraindicted for nursing mothers.
http://www.vetinfo.com/imodium-for-dogs.htmldo not use this product for female dogs who are pregnant or nursing.
Good luck, and enjoy your baby! She's precious.
Gloria
You never know what you can do until you have to do it.
Thanks for this info on prednisone. It's certainly giving me pause. I won't stop breastfeeding since my daughter just throws up the formula I've had to give her at times. So, looks like I'll be tapering off the meds soon, or at least getting down to a lower dose and just trying to manage things via diet. I've done it before; I can do it again. And now I have an even more compelling reason: my beautiful Aniela!
Hi Beth,
She's a beautiful baby. It is really tough to have the colitis flare at this time when there is so much upheaval going on in your life ( including all those hormonal changes that occur following delivery ).
If I were you I would ask BOTH your GI doc, AND your baby's Pediatrician, to try to collaborate on looking for the best answer for your situation. They might want to contact Astro-Zenica about ideas for this kind of circumstance, but realistically speaking, since this is a rather unusual situation, there are probably not enough people in this kind of situation to have done good studies. So the ideas and opinions really might amount to "pitch and putt" anyway.
There are 2 people to be considered here now -- both a Mom AND a Baby. What might be best for Mom might not be good for baby, and visa-versa, so it does become a balancing act.
But as your baby is now nearly a month old, and has been nursed to this point, many of the important antibodies have already have been transmitted. While I'm sure that you feel that nursing is an important thing to do for your baby (and it is) it is not the only possibility here.
IF the best decision seems to be that in the light of your treatment needs, baby might be better served to be bottle fed ... DO NOT feel guilty ... That is NOT a failure! It is just not exactly how you had hoped and planned to feed the new baby. And it iwould not be the worst thing in the world either.
What is MOST important for your baby is to have a healthy, as well as a happy and relaxed Mom.
Wishing you the best here,
Gayle
She's a beautiful baby. It is really tough to have the colitis flare at this time when there is so much upheaval going on in your life ( including all those hormonal changes that occur following delivery ).
If I were you I would ask BOTH your GI doc, AND your baby's Pediatrician, to try to collaborate on looking for the best answer for your situation. They might want to contact Astro-Zenica about ideas for this kind of circumstance, but realistically speaking, since this is a rather unusual situation, there are probably not enough people in this kind of situation to have done good studies. So the ideas and opinions really might amount to "pitch and putt" anyway.
There are 2 people to be considered here now -- both a Mom AND a Baby. What might be best for Mom might not be good for baby, and visa-versa, so it does become a balancing act.
But as your baby is now nearly a month old, and has been nursed to this point, many of the important antibodies have already have been transmitted. While I'm sure that you feel that nursing is an important thing to do for your baby (and it is) it is not the only possibility here.
IF the best decision seems to be that in the light of your treatment needs, baby might be better served to be bottle fed ... DO NOT feel guilty ... That is NOT a failure! It is just not exactly how you had hoped and planned to feed the new baby. And it iwould not be the worst thing in the world either.
What is MOST important for your baby is to have a healthy, as well as a happy and relaxed Mom.
Wishing you the best here,
Gayle