Two-Week Update on My Three-Day Rotation Diet Trial
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Two-Week Update on My Three-Day Rotation Diet Trial
Well, it's been 15 days since I started this trial, and so far I have incorporated back into my diet, the followind food items that I have been avoiding--many of them for 2 or 3 years, and some, much longer:
popcorn
Van's Waffles, (contains soy flour, in addition to rice)
maple syrup
bacon
cheese
eggs
milk chocolate candy
bananas
ice cream
picante sauce
grape juice
To be honest, I really expected to have been knocked out of the trial by now, but surprisingly, I've had absolutely no problems. I feel great.
I'm continuing to add items to the list. Today I plan to try peanuts.
Whenever possible, I've been hedging my bets. For example, the ice cream I've been eating is Breyer's Lactose Free Vanilla. This contains no corn syrup, and has lactase added, so that the only risks are the casein and sugar. Since it has caused no problems at all, I'll upgrade to the regular version of the same ice cream, without the lactase, in a few days, and see if I can tolerate substantial amounts of lactose, on a three-day rotation basis. I already know that I can tolerate small amounts of lactose, since the Hershey's Milk Chocolate Nuggets with Almonds, contain lactose.
I'm eating these items in quantities that preempt any questions about wheather or not I'm ingesting enough to make this a valid test. For example, when I eat ice cream, I eat roughly a quart at a time. When I eat popcorn, I pop not just one, but two overflowing batches. (What can I say, I like popcorn. LOL).
I'm beginning to feel invincible, so I'm pretty sure that sooner or later, something will knock my hat in the creek, but since I've already gone much farther than I ever expected to go, without any problems, there's no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that this routine works. I plan to keep pushing the envelope, to see what I can discover.
A few weeks ago, I felt oppressed. Now I feel empowered.
Love,
Wayne
P S Disclaimer--for those individuals reading this, who are not familiar with my situation: I am a slow reactor, and do not usually react to a food item to which I am intolerant, immediately after eating it. I react after the second or third ingestion of that food, within two or three days. My theory is that my antibody production is relatively low, after the first ingestion. If I eat the food item again, within a day or so, my antibody production escalates to a level which is sufficient to cause a reaction. If I don't eat the item again, within three days, my antibody production declines to a normal state, without ever triggering a reaction.
popcorn
Van's Waffles, (contains soy flour, in addition to rice)
maple syrup
bacon
cheese
eggs
milk chocolate candy
bananas
ice cream
picante sauce
grape juice
To be honest, I really expected to have been knocked out of the trial by now, but surprisingly, I've had absolutely no problems. I feel great.
I'm continuing to add items to the list. Today I plan to try peanuts.
Whenever possible, I've been hedging my bets. For example, the ice cream I've been eating is Breyer's Lactose Free Vanilla. This contains no corn syrup, and has lactase added, so that the only risks are the casein and sugar. Since it has caused no problems at all, I'll upgrade to the regular version of the same ice cream, without the lactase, in a few days, and see if I can tolerate substantial amounts of lactose, on a three-day rotation basis. I already know that I can tolerate small amounts of lactose, since the Hershey's Milk Chocolate Nuggets with Almonds, contain lactose.
I'm eating these items in quantities that preempt any questions about wheather or not I'm ingesting enough to make this a valid test. For example, when I eat ice cream, I eat roughly a quart at a time. When I eat popcorn, I pop not just one, but two overflowing batches. (What can I say, I like popcorn. LOL).
I'm beginning to feel invincible, so I'm pretty sure that sooner or later, something will knock my hat in the creek, but since I've already gone much farther than I ever expected to go, without any problems, there's no doubt whatsoever in my mind, that this routine works. I plan to keep pushing the envelope, to see what I can discover.
A few weeks ago, I felt oppressed. Now I feel empowered.
Love,
Wayne
P S Disclaimer--for those individuals reading this, who are not familiar with my situation: I am a slow reactor, and do not usually react to a food item to which I am intolerant, immediately after eating it. I react after the second or third ingestion of that food, within two or three days. My theory is that my antibody production is relatively low, after the first ingestion. If I eat the food item again, within a day or so, my antibody production escalates to a level which is sufficient to cause a reaction. If I don't eat the item again, within three days, my antibody production declines to a normal state, without ever triggering a reaction.
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
I think that's great Wayne. Maybe you are on to something that will help others. Isn't it wonderful to again savor those flavors that you have missed for so long?!!
Good luck in your continued research.
PS - Are you keeping a detailed diary of the item, quantity and the day you ingested each item? I bet the grocery bill just increased since you are trying so many new items!
Good luck in your continued research.
PS - Are you keeping a detailed diary of the item, quantity and the day you ingested each item? I bet the grocery bill just increased since you are trying so many new items!
"Let us rise up and be thankful, for if we didn't learn a lot today, at least we learned a little, and if we didn't learn a little, at least we didn't get sick, and if we got sick, at least we didn't die; so, let us all be thankful." -- Buddha
You're right--it's an incredible feeling, to be able to eat things that I thought I'd never be able to eat again, without getting sick. And yes, I'm keeping a diary of everything I'm eating. The grocery bills are indeed, noticeably bigger these days. LOL.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Tex!
This is indeed good news! I am thrilled for you and can imagine what a feeling of freedom you must be having. It's so true about variety being the spice of life, isn't it? How many days are you allowing in between?
I'll bet the most welcome re-addition is popcorn! Am I right? LOL! And it doesn't sound like you have been overdoing it with the maple sugar candy either.
Keep up the good work!
Love,
Polly
This is indeed good news! I am thrilled for you and can imagine what a feeling of freedom you must be having. It's so true about variety being the spice of life, isn't it? How many days are you allowing in between?
I'll bet the most welcome re-addition is popcorn! Am I right? LOL! And it doesn't sound like you have been overdoing it with the maple sugar candy either.
Keep up the good work!
Love,
Polly
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
Polly,
You're right. I love that popcorn.
I'm skipping two days, and to simplify the logistics, Sunday is a stand-alone day, (that is, it's not part of the rotation schedule). IOW, I ate some of that great maple sugar candy on Wednesday, and again on Saturday. What I eat on Tuesday, I try to replicate on Friday, and Monday's menu is basically repeated on Thursday.
Love,
Wayne
You're right. I love that popcorn.
I'm skipping two days, and to simplify the logistics, Sunday is a stand-alone day, (that is, it's not part of the rotation schedule). IOW, I ate some of that great maple sugar candy on Wednesday, and again on Saturday. What I eat on Tuesday, I try to replicate on Friday, and Monday's menu is basically repeated on Thursday.
Love,
Wayne
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Oh my gosh, you are such a traitor!! (sp?)
I am about to loose my self control when I read what you are stuffing yourself with these days. Good for you - I sure hope your gut isn't slowly building up a huge and loud cry for mercy. I didn't see any bread on your menu - are you avoiding gluten?
Bon Apetit!!
Love,
Karen
I am about to loose my self control when I read what you are stuffing yourself with these days. Good for you - I sure hope your gut isn't slowly building up a huge and loud cry for mercy. I didn't see any bread on your menu - are you avoiding gluten?
Bon Apetit!!
Love,
Karen
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Karen,
You spelled traitor correctly. Sigh. Geez, that hurt, when you put it that way. LOL. Actually, though, a lot of the food items that I'm adding, are simple, basic foods. Note that bananas were the first thing that I added.
Yes, I'm still avoiding gluten. Some of the things I plan to add to my diet are not so decadent--like fruit, for example. I also find that I can tolerate almonds, peanuts, and probably most other nuts, when I do it within the 3-day rotation.
I haven't decided whether or not to add prunes. Incidentally, did you know that prunes leave an acid ash after they are metabolized?
http://www.ccone.com/nh1/acid-diet.html
Also, you might find the following link from the same page, to be interesting, since it pertains to maintaining good health without the use of antibiotics:
http://www.ccone.com/nh1/acid-alkaline.html
(None of this has anything to do with the 3-day diet, I just thought it was interesting information).
Love,
Wayne
You spelled traitor correctly. Sigh. Geez, that hurt, when you put it that way. LOL. Actually, though, a lot of the food items that I'm adding, are simple, basic foods. Note that bananas were the first thing that I added.
Yes, I'm still avoiding gluten. Some of the things I plan to add to my diet are not so decadent--like fruit, for example. I also find that I can tolerate almonds, peanuts, and probably most other nuts, when I do it within the 3-day rotation.
I haven't decided whether or not to add prunes. Incidentally, did you know that prunes leave an acid ash after they are metabolized?
http://www.ccone.com/nh1/acid-diet.html
Also, you might find the following link from the same page, to be interesting, since it pertains to maintaining good health without the use of antibiotics:
http://www.ccone.com/nh1/acid-alkaline.html
(None of this has anything to do with the 3-day diet, I just thought it was interesting information).
Love,
Wayne
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Wayne,
I'm so happy for you, and jealous!
How long have you been avoiding these items? Is there hope for the rest of us? I really miss cheese!
I do notice that my reactions to accidental ingestions are less severe than when I first started. Maybe someday I will be at the point you are.
Love, Jean
I'm so happy for you, and jealous!
How long have you been avoiding these items? Is there hope for the rest of us? I really miss cheese!
I do notice that my reactions to accidental ingestions are less severe than when I first started. Maybe someday I will be at the point you are.
Love, Jean
Be kind to everyone, because you never know what battles they are fighting.
Jean,
While I've been GF for a little over 38 months now, I've only been completely avoiding things like corn and dairy, for about 21 months, at this point, though I had significantly restricted their use at least 6 months earlier, while I tried to convince myself that I wasn't actually intolerant of them.
Beef and citrus were the last things I cut out, roughly 4 or 5 months ago.
Love,
Wayne
While I've been GF for a little over 38 months now, I've only been completely avoiding things like corn and dairy, for about 21 months, at this point, though I had significantly restricted their use at least 6 months earlier, while I tried to convince myself that I wasn't actually intolerant of them.
Beef and citrus were the last things I cut out, roughly 4 or 5 months ago.
Love,
Wayne
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Oh Wayne,
Please don't feel hurt by my silly remarks. I am simply jealous too. You were always one of my greatest sources of inspiration and support when I tried to figure out how and what to eliminate from my diet - that's why the word traitor came to mind; you are leaving us/me out here in the "cold" while having a "feast"
OK, I see where you are coming from now; you have indeed been one of the worst hit cases in our little intolerance group here not even been able to tolerate bananas, fruit, or vegetables to speak of - you have really been having a rough time of it, haven't you. In that light I can forgive you for acting a little bit like a traitor
I am thrilled for you about being able to eat some of the foods that you've successfully added to your diet recently - so good for you to get the fruit and veggies and also great for your mind to be able to revel in all those choices and feel "rich" and alive again. Watch the waist line.... Just kidding!!
Love,
Karen
Please don't feel hurt by my silly remarks. I am simply jealous too. You were always one of my greatest sources of inspiration and support when I tried to figure out how and what to eliminate from my diet - that's why the word traitor came to mind; you are leaving us/me out here in the "cold" while having a "feast"
OK, I see where you are coming from now; you have indeed been one of the worst hit cases in our little intolerance group here not even been able to tolerate bananas, fruit, or vegetables to speak of - you have really been having a rough time of it, haven't you. In that light I can forgive you for acting a little bit like a traitor
I am thrilled for you about being able to eat some of the foods that you've successfully added to your diet recently - so good for you to get the fruit and veggies and also great for your mind to be able to revel in all those choices and feel "rich" and alive again. Watch the waist line.... Just kidding!!
Love,
Karen
Inspired by the paleolithic diet and lifestyle -
living w/o gluten, dairy, soy, corn, and yeast.
living w/o gluten, dairy, soy, corn, and yeast.
Wayne,
So, that means that I may be able to try your rotation diet in about a year. I think that I will start in January of 2007. At that point, I'll be GF for 40 months and the rest for 34 months. That gives me something BIG to look forward to. Also, I'll be laid off, so if I fail, I won't be missing any work.
It will certainly be worth a try! Like I said, I notice that my reactions are getting less severe. Hopefully, the reactions will continue to decrease. I'm going to start monitoring them. I'm still considering trying rice this winter. It was my last to develop, so seems like it should be the first for me to get over.
Polly,
Do you still eat popcorn?
Karen,
I sure hope Wayne, our guinea pig, is on to something! Wouldn't it be nice to be able to look forward to adding a few foods back in? I know I will never eat gluten, but some of the other foods would be so nice to eat.
Love, Jean
So, that means that I may be able to try your rotation diet in about a year. I think that I will start in January of 2007. At that point, I'll be GF for 40 months and the rest for 34 months. That gives me something BIG to look forward to. Also, I'll be laid off, so if I fail, I won't be missing any work.
It will certainly be worth a try! Like I said, I notice that my reactions are getting less severe. Hopefully, the reactions will continue to decrease. I'm going to start monitoring them. I'm still considering trying rice this winter. It was my last to develop, so seems like it should be the first for me to get over.
Polly,
Do you still eat popcorn?
Karen,
I sure hope Wayne, our guinea pig, is on to something! Wouldn't it be nice to be able to look forward to adding a few foods back in? I know I will never eat gluten, but some of the other foods would be so nice to eat.
Love, Jean
Be kind to everyone, because you never know what battles they are fighting.
Jean,
Yes, I do still eat popcorn occasionally. I tried some Fritos a few months ago without success, though. I am also inspired by Wayne's success to try some rotation of those triggers that I react least to. It does give one hope, doesn't it? I have been GF for 4 years now and also agree that I will never add gluten back. But I have been experimenting a little bit.
The other night I tried some GF soy sauce (made with soybeans) on a stir-fry dish. Haven't had soy for about 3 years. Unfortunately, I had immediate bloating - to the degree that I have not experienced in years! I really wanted to "pop" my tummy with a pin. LOL! It lasted 24 hours. So I know that soy is still out. And I still react immediately to dairy. SIGH. Would love to have cheese too!
But I seem to be able to tolerate tomatoes and a little citrus using rotation.
And my latest experiment was chocolate last night. I ate some chocolate that Maggie brought me back from England. It is free of all triggers except for a little soy lecithin. (I have found that I can tolerate a little soy oil/lecithin at times). I ate about two ounces, and so far, so good. I haven't had a poop yet today, so maybe I'd better reserve my opinion for now. In the past chocolate gave me poops that looked like melted chocolate (you know, the old self-serve variety!).
Oh, this is so much fun! It seems that it is much easier to tease out offenders now that I have been avoiding them for so long.
I'm interested in everyone's rotation stories.
Love,
Polly
P.S. Why will you be laid off?
Yes, I do still eat popcorn occasionally. I tried some Fritos a few months ago without success, though. I am also inspired by Wayne's success to try some rotation of those triggers that I react least to. It does give one hope, doesn't it? I have been GF for 4 years now and also agree that I will never add gluten back. But I have been experimenting a little bit.
The other night I tried some GF soy sauce (made with soybeans) on a stir-fry dish. Haven't had soy for about 3 years. Unfortunately, I had immediate bloating - to the degree that I have not experienced in years! I really wanted to "pop" my tummy with a pin. LOL! It lasted 24 hours. So I know that soy is still out. And I still react immediately to dairy. SIGH. Would love to have cheese too!
But I seem to be able to tolerate tomatoes and a little citrus using rotation.
And my latest experiment was chocolate last night. I ate some chocolate that Maggie brought me back from England. It is free of all triggers except for a little soy lecithin. (I have found that I can tolerate a little soy oil/lecithin at times). I ate about two ounces, and so far, so good. I haven't had a poop yet today, so maybe I'd better reserve my opinion for now. In the past chocolate gave me poops that looked like melted chocolate (you know, the old self-serve variety!).
Oh, this is so much fun! It seems that it is much easier to tease out offenders now that I have been avoiding them for so long.
I'm interested in everyone's rotation stories.
Love,
Polly
P.S. Why will you be laid off?
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
Morning, Polly,
Do you react promptly to cheese, or is it the lactose that causes immediate reactions? If you don't react promptly, cheese might be a candidate for rotation.
I'm going to find out in a few hours if lactose is still a problem for me, 'cause I just finished off a bowl of GF puffed rice, with sugar and milk. I hope it works, because I had a busy day planned. LOL.
I presume that Jean will be laid off because the golf course closes for the winter, and all the vegetation will pretty much go dormant.
Love,
Wayne
Do you react promptly to cheese, or is it the lactose that causes immediate reactions? If you don't react promptly, cheese might be a candidate for rotation.
I'm going to find out in a few hours if lactose is still a problem for me, 'cause I just finished off a bowl of GF puffed rice, with sugar and milk. I hope it works, because I had a busy day planned. LOL.
I presume that Jean will be laid off because the golf course closes for the winter, and all the vegetation will pretty much go dormant.
Love,
Wayne
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.