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Oh Terri!
Once upon a time, I too could not cope with a chocolate bar! But one day I could - once I began to eat healthily! Get the sugars right - then chocolate is not a problem - just a pleasurable 1 or 2 square pleasure - just go for high % cocoa content - 60% - 70%. I don't know about the "alternatives" but the better quality ... that said I have had only had dairy choc! Just a thought!
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I decided to eat some sweet potatoes with my Christmas ham dinner. Nothing extra on them besides maple syrup. I was up several times during the night with gas and it took two days for Norman to return. I didn't have watery D, but definitely not Norman. For some reason, root vegetables don't agree with me.

On the up side, I did figure out how to make mock instant mashed potatoes using corn flour, corn meal and almond milk. It was super-easy, and I can't tell the difference from real mashed potatoes. I actually look forward to my turkey dinner now because I can have it with mashed "potatoes" and gravy.

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Gloria,

FWIW, any significant amount of sugar does that to me — even maple syrup. :sigh:

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Almost every time I come to the site, I learn something. Thanks, Leah for asking this question and getting the discussion started.

I accidentally ate gluten on Christmas Eve. There was no reaction the next day and I thought I was home free. Just about three days after consuming gluten, I started getting sick; gas, nausea, D. It got worse over the next few days and I didn't connect it to the gluten I ate because so much time had elapsed. I couldn't understand why food that have never caused a problem were suddenly making me sick. Now I know it was the gluten and I can go back to my basic diet without worry.

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Linda, I was tested with a simple blood test. Then I went to an immunologist and he did more tests to see about my other antibody levels. I also am low on two IgG sub categories :(

Ps, so far no reaction to the small amount of gluten I ingested Yay

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Tex,

I'm able to eat maple syrup on my pancakes and waffles without any problem. My reaction was definitely due to the sweet potatoes. They sure were good, though. :neutral:

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Gloria,

Bummer. Could it be because of the fiber (sweet potatoes are considered to be a high fiber vegetable)? IOW, have you tested a small amount to see if it causes a reaction similar to a larger amount?

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Tex,

Yes, I suspect it is the fiber because almost all root vegetables are high in fiber. I did test some baby food sweet potatoes a while ago, and I still reacted. I've also tested baby food carrots with the same reaction. I tried some acorn squash in the fall; it seemed OK, but when I tried it again at Thanksgiving, I reacted. It could have been the turkey at someone else's house, and it could have been the squash. I need to test it again. Squash and root vegetables are so nutritious and filling; I'd love to add some to my diet.

I've been able to add some applesauce in the past couple of months - a welcome addition, so now I have two fruits. I've reduced my Entocort dosage to 2-1-1 without any problems so far. Things are looking up!

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Gloria - I also react to sweet potatoes, root vegetables and winter squash. I do OK with yellow squash, even though zucchini was reactive on MRT. There have been times (while testing) that I've done well with sweet potatoes, butternut and acorn squash, but when I dare to include them on a more regular basis, I start reacting.

I hope to some day be able to eat a more varied diet, but so far it's slim pickings. I'm glad you can eat some apple now. Apple and mango are the 2 fruits I eat on a regular basis.

Leah - I'm super careful about gluten, but I'm sure there are times of cross contamination when eating out. However, I've never been able to nail down a specific reaction time.

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Gloria wrote:Things are looking up!
:thumbsup: Great!

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Very interesting, Kari. You and I have similar vegetable intolerances and can eat the same fruits at this point. I've been experimenting with adding broccoli back to my diet, and so far, so good. That gives me three vegetables: asparagus, broccoli and cauliflower, one for each rotation day. I don't understand why I'm able to eat fairly high-fiber vegetables such as these, but not squash and root vegetables.

I tried Brussels Sprouts, which I used to tolerate, but I had a very bad gas problem. I tested about 1/2 tsp. Earth Balance soy-free margarine with them and suspect it caused me additional problems. I can tolerate the other vegetables w/o anything else but salt, but Brussels Sprouts almost beg for something to help the flavor. Ghee seems to bother me, too.

I tried yellow squash right after the MRT test, which showed it to be very low-reactive, but I reacted badly to it. I'm not sure about zucchini. Next summer I'll grow it again and try it. I'm in no hurry anymore. After 6 years of managing my MC with diet, I'm more laid back and willing to take it slowly.

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Bummer. All the squashes and sweet potatoes have always been great for me. Fruits still give me problems in any quantity. Gloria, I half brussels sprouts and toss them with olive oil , garlic, and salt and roast them in the oven for about 25 minutes at 425 degrees. They are delicious.... but can be gassy in large amounts for me.

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If you are anything like me, Gloria, broccoli will be fine. It is the one vegetable I eat regularly, along with cauliflower (both well cooked). I love brussel sprouts, but unfortunately they don't love me. I like the strong flavor, so I would be fine eating them with just a sprinkle of salt and some olive oil. It also seems strange to me to be fine with broccoli and cauliflower, but not with winter squash, or any of the root veggies.

It has been 2 and a half years since I went gluten and subsequently everything else "free", but I don't seem to be making much progress. I take imodium and claritin on a daily basis, but norman is still elusive. However, I feel pretty good, and don't experience any of the other MC related problems, so living with watery or soft BM's a couple of times a day doesn't seem so bad. Overcoming the sense of "failure" I feel by not being able to control my BM's is probably my biggest issue. As much as I tell myself that it doesn't matter, I feel disappointed every single time I go to the bathroom :sad: .

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I'm not so sure about this MRT testing. Why someone would react badly to something the test shows as low reactive. I just had some friends who did that test. One of them has been allergic to all nuts for years.....gets hives, etc., yet her MRT test showed greens for all nuts. I will not fork out the money for that test at this time. That's discouraging to me. Also the MRT test showed high intolerances to foods that these gals never even consume. Why is that?

Well, I seem to do okay with broccoli, squash and cauliflower. I added potato back in last month (in the form of mashed potatoes). Now that I'm off the Pepto I'll be able to tell if I react to these or not. I ate squash last night with no issues as of yet and broccoli Tuesday evening with no issues. Hope it stays this way.

Thinking of adding a fruit besides my banana. Any suggestions? I'm thinking a well cooked apple or peach. Will not cook the peach as it's so soft anyway....just will peel it and see what happens. I'm trying to find a fruit with low sugar in it.

@Kari....wow....sorry Norman is so elusive and you've had to give up so much. If you still feel good and your vitamin levels are good, then I guess 2 W or loose Ds a day is probably not anything to worry about. Though I can see your point as that would cause weight loss for me and I can't lose anymore. That just may be your new Norm! I still get shocked how people still have D even after removing so much from the diet. It's like the colon just can't get back to normal or there's something else going on besides what we are ingesting.

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Mangoes work well for many of us Terri. Cooked fruit should be fine. I ate canned peaches while I was at my worst.... but not too much of any fruit.

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