Finished 6 Weeks on Budesonide-Still Sick

[SweetSydney]

Hi, Leah! Hi, Tex!

My DH bought Silk Almond Milk for me today, and I am enjoying a cup of cocoa!!!

I haven't had a cup of cocoa the entire winter.

So, this is a real treat!

Thank you both so much for telling me about almond milk.

I am having Rice Chex with it for dinner.

Sydney

[tex]

Great! I hope your digestive system likes it, too.

Tex

[SweetSydney]

Great! I hope your digestive system likes it, too.

Tex

Thanks, Tex.

I think my digestive system likes it, so far, because I didn't experience any cramping.

Last time I had cocoa with 2% milk, my stomach hurt, right away, and I had cramping.

Sydney

[DebE13]

Sydney, have you eliminated soy from your diet? I found that reduced my stomach pain considerably. It's a challenge because soy is in everything but may be worth a try. I've been struggling with CC approaching six years now and went untreated for about two due to frustrations with my doctors. I agree with the other posts in that it takes a very long time to heal. I've tapered to 3mg every other day and still have WD. Progress is slow but diet is key. I take digestive enzymes and it seems to cut down on my stomach aches with eating. Hope you find relief soon.

[Leah]

Yay! Glad we could help :)

Leah

[SweetSydney]

Sydney, have you eliminated soy from your diet? I found that reduced my stomach pain considerably. It's a challenge because soy is in everything but may be worth a try. I've been struggling with CC approaching six years now and went untreated for about two due to frustrations with my doctors. I agree with the other posts in that it takes a very long time to heal. I've tapered to 3mg every other day and still have WD. Progress is slow but diet is key. I take digestive enzymes and it seems to cut down on my stomach aches with eating. Hope you find relief soon.

Hi, Deb.

I eliminated soy from my diet, many years ago, when I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroid disease, and hypothyroidism.

I have always made all of our food from scratch, never used mixes, prepared foods of any kind.

My pancreatic enzyme's were elevated, so my G.I. Doc prescribed Pancreaze. If I don't take it, when I eat, my stomach hurts.

Thank you-I hope it won't take too long to get things under control-we are listing our home the beginning of April.

Sydney

[SweetSydney]

Yay! Glad we could help :)

Leah

Hi, Leah!

I had Rice Chex with half of a small banana thinly sliced into in, with 1/2 cup of sugar free Silk Almond milk for dinner, and it was delicious!!! And, I didn't experience any stomach pain.

I can't thank you enough for the suggestion of the Chex cereals.

Sydney

[Leah]

Yay! I can't tell you how happy it makes me to be able to help someone :) It's the main reason I stay on this board.... besides that I am always learning something new :)

Leah

[SweetSydney]

Yay! I can't tell you how happy it makes me to be able to help someone :) It's the main reason I stay on this board.... besides that I am always learning something new :)

Leah

Hi, Leah.

That is really nice to hear. I like helping people, too. A friend of mine, that Shows Yorkies, used to be the Administrator of a forum, and I was the Moderator, and I loved helping people that were new to the breed.

I've had Yorkies for 37 years.

I'm glad I found this forum, because I am learning how to cope with MC.

Sydney

[tlras]

Yay! Glad you found another food to enjoy that you can tolerate! I don't know what I'd do without my Rice Chex with Almond Milk. Good stuff!

Terri

[SweetSydney]

Yay! Glad you found another food to enjoy that you can tolerate! I don't know what I'd do without my Rice Chex with Almond Milk. Good stuff!

Terri

Thanks, Terri!

I am so happy to have a new food that I can tolerate, and, it really is yummy!!!

Sydney

[SweetSydney]

Well, I discovered that I cannot have Almond Milk.

It is a Goitrogen.

http://almondmilkdangers.com/almond-mil ... rogen.html

I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease, and I am Hypothyroid.

And, worst of all, it ended up giving me the D.

Sydney

[tex]

Hi Sydney,

To put that into perspective, consider that there are many, many foods that are goitrogens. Most of us are unlikely to be able to justify avoiding all of them. From Wikipedia, for example:

Goitrogenic foods

Certain raw foods (cooking partially inactivates the goitrogens, except in the cases of soy and millet[citation needed]) have been identified as lightly goitrogenic. These foods include:

Cassava and Cabbage both due to the foods containing thiocyanate[6]
Soybeans (and soybean products such as tofu, soybean oil, soy flour, soy lecithin)
Other foods containing genistein have been implicated as interfering with thyroid peroxidase in laboratory rats.[7]
Pine nuts
Peanuts
Millet
Strawberries
Pears
Peaches
Spinach
Bamboo shoots
Sweet Potatoes
Vegetables in the genus Brassica [8]
Bok choy
Broccoli
Broccolini (Asparations)
Brussels sprouts
Cabbage
Canola
Cauliflower
Chinese cabbage
Choy sum
Collard greens
Horseradish
Kai-lan (Chinese broccoli)
Kale
Kohlrabi
Mizuna
Mustard greens
Radishes
Rapeseed (yu choy)
Rapini
Rutabagas
Tatsoi
Turnips

Thyroid hyperplasia has been demonstrated in mice:[9]

Despite being generally a stimulant, caffeine acts on thyroid function as a suppressant.[citation needed] Indeed some studies on rats suggest that excess caffeine in conjunction with a lack of iodine may promote the formation of thyroid cancers.[10]

Foods stimulating thyroid tissue

Some foods and drinks have an opposite effect on the thyroid gland; that is, they stimulate thyroid function rather than suppressing it, examples being avocado and saturated fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goitrogen

Note that almonds and almond milk are not even on the list. Also note that eating avacado and saturated fat will counteract the effect of goitrogenic foods.

Many members of this board are hypothyroid (including myself), and no one has ever noticed any such problems associated with using almond milk. As group, we are approximately 7 times as likely to have thyroid problems, compared with someone in the general population.

I can't help but notice that there's no information about the owners/sponsors of the website that you cited, even when I go to to the "About Us" link, and there are no clues in the domain name. Here is what the "About Us" page says:

We believe that as responsible consumers, all of us have the right to reliable, transparent and unbiased information about the products we buy.

We launched this site to dispel some of the fears in people’s minds about almond milk. While some of the fears are well-founded, our comprehensive research indicates that almond milk is a very healthy and nutritious alternative to dairy milk. . . .

Now, if the site was actually created to "dispel some of the fears in people's minds about almond milk", why is the domain name registered as almondmilkdangers.com? That sounds a little fishy to me. In fact, it sounds like a site that someone hired to promote the dairy industry might create, doesn't it? I tracked down the registration information for the domain. The owner is a resident of Albuquerque, New Mexico, who has a name that appears to be of Pakistani ethnicity. Hmmmmmm.

Also, please be aware that cooking tends to destroy or at least reduce the goitrogenic effect of foods (except for soy and millet), so Almond Milk could be made safe simply by heating it prior to using it. Strangely, the author of the article that you cited failed to mention that simple remedy.

If you feel that the almond milk caused D, though, (and not the Chex cereal), then you might want to try another milk substitute, such as Coconut Milk or Hemp Milk. Please be aware that some celiacs complain that the GF Chex cereals cause them to react. Personally, I seem to tolerate them just fine, but YMMV.

Tex

[SweetSydney]

Hi Sydney,

To put that into perspective, consider that there are many, many foods that are goitrogens. Most of us are unlikely to be able to justify avoiding all of them. From Wikipedia, for example:

Goitrogenic foods

Certain raw foods (cooking partially inactivates the goitrogens, except in the cases of soy and millet[citation needed]) have been identified as lightly goitrogenic. These foods include:

Cassava and Cabbage both due to the foods containing thiocyanate[6]
Soybeans (and soybean products such as tofu, soybean oil, soy flour, soy lecithin)
Other foods containing genistein have been implicated as interfering with thyroid peroxidase in laboratory rats.[7]
Pine nuts
Peanuts
Millet
Strawberries
Pears
Peaches
Spinach
Bamboo shoots
Sweet Potatoes
Vegetables in the genus Brassica [8]
Bok choy
Broccoli
Broccolini (Asparations)
Brussels sprouts
Cabbage
Canola
Cauliflower
Chinese cabbage
Choy sum
Collard greens
Horseradish
Kai-lan (Chinese broccoli)
Kale
Kohlrabi
Mizuna
Mustard greens
Radishes
Rapeseed (yu choy)
Rapini
Rutabagas
Tatsoi
Turnips

Thyroid hyperplasia has been demonstrated in mice:[9]

Despite being generally a stimulant, caffeine acts on thyroid function as a suppressant.[citation needed] Indeed some studies on rats suggest that excess caffeine in conjunction with a lack of iodine may promote the formation of thyroid cancers.[10]

Foods stimulating thyroid tissue

Some foods and drinks have an opposite effect on the thyroid gland; that is, they stimulate thyroid function rather than suppressing it, examples being avocado and saturated fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goitrogen

Note that almonds and almond milk are not even on the list. Also note that eating avacado and saturated fat will counteract the effect of goitrogenic foods.

Many members of this board are hypothyroid (including myself), and no one has ever noticed any such problems associated with using almond milk. As group, we are approximately 7 times as likely to have thyroid problems, compared with someone in the general population.

I can't help but notice that there's no information about the owners/sponsors of the website that you cited, even when I go to to the "About Us" link, and there are no clues in the domain name. Here is what the "About Us" page says:

We believe that as responsible consumers, all of us have the right to reliable, transparent and unbiased information about the products we buy.

We launched this site to dispel some of the fears in people’s minds about almond milk. While some of the fears are well-founded, our comprehensive research indicates that almond milk is a very healthy and nutritious alternative to dairy milk. . . .

Now, if the site was actually created to "dispel some of the fears in people's minds about almond milk", why is the domain name registered as almondmilkdangers.com? That sounds a little fishy to me. In fact, it sounds like a site that someone hired to promote the dairy industry might create, doesn't it? I tracked down the registration information for the domain. The owner is a resident of Albuquerque, New Mexico, who has a name that appears to be of Pakistani ethnicity. Hmmmmmm.

Also, please be aware that cooking tends to destroy or at least reduce the goitrogenic effect of foods (except for soy and millet), so Almond Milk could be made safe simply by heating it prior to using it. Strangely, the author of the article that you cited failed to mention that simple remedy.

If you feel that the almond milk caused D, though, (and not the Chex cereal), then you might want to try another milk substitute, such as Coconut Milk or Hemp Milk. Please be aware that some celiacs complain that the GF Chex cereals cause them to react. Personally, I seem to tolerate them just fine, but YMMV.

Tex

Hi, Tex.

I actually have an entire list of goitrogenic foods on my refrigerator, and I do my absolute best to keep them out of my diet. Simply, because it took 2 full years to get my thyroid levels balanced. And, I react, pretty quickly. I suspect it is due to the Hashi's.

My temp remained low at 94 degree's for two years.

I do feel the Almond Milk did cause my D, though, because I had it with foods other than the Chex.

I 'think' rather than trying another "milk", I may just keep my diet very simple, until this MC gets under control, which, I can see is going to take a long time.

Because of the issues with my pancreatic enzymes being elevated, I cannot handle saturated fat, at all.

Thanks,

Sydney

[tlras]

Oh wow...I had no idea. I eat plenty of Giotrogenic foods! Luckily I eat a lot of avocados and other saturated fats as well. I'm due a thyroid checkup this month (hypothyroid) and hoping I get good test results as I purposely lowered my dose of Armour thyroid as I was getting symptoms of hyperthyroidism after giving up gluten.

Sydney....some people react to the BHT preservative in the Chex cereals. Also, have you had tests done yet to determine whether or not you are intolerant to rice or corn? So sorry you got D but hoping it was short-lived.

Terri