Magnesium....as important as Vitamin D?
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Gabes,
I was into it, until I read this on their Crohn's Disease page:
Cat's claw (Uncaria tomentosa, 250 mg per day) may help fight inflammation. Cat's claw may make leukemia, as well as autoimmune disorders, worse, and may worsen low blood pressure.
Source: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/croh ... z2KTZqXAXr
I have an AI disorder and low BP. I think I'll pass.
I was into it, until I read this on their Crohn's Disease page:
Cat's claw (Uncaria tomentosa, 250 mg per day) may help fight inflammation. Cat's claw may make leukemia, as well as autoimmune disorders, worse, and may worsen low blood pressure.
Source: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/croh ... z2KTZqXAXr
I have an AI disorder and low BP. I think I'll pass.
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one thing to investigate with any ingredient (supplement /tea/medication) that mentions 'immune support' is whether it 'simulates' the immune system or whether it nurtures it.
one reason why it may make those issues worse is that it overstimulates the immune system.
as I have high blood pressue, i would not be worried about lowering blood pressure.
just like some meds work for some and not others, the cats claw worked really well for me at that point of time of life and medical situation.
We are all different and before starting any supplement it should be investigated and discussed with a practitioner (natural therapist/wholistic doctor or pharmacist or acupuncturist) they will be able to ascertain based on your medical history if the item will hinder or help you.
I am leaning towards supplements that nuture the immune system. I use small amounts of compound based CoQ10 in my rice protein shakes
like all things on the internet, for all the articles saying that Vit D3 is fantastic - there are just as many that say it is not.
it is up to each individual to make an informed decision for themselves
one reason why it may make those issues worse is that it overstimulates the immune system.
as I have high blood pressue, i would not be worried about lowering blood pressure.
just like some meds work for some and not others, the cats claw worked really well for me at that point of time of life and medical situation.
We are all different and before starting any supplement it should be investigated and discussed with a practitioner (natural therapist/wholistic doctor or pharmacist or acupuncturist) they will be able to ascertain based on your medical history if the item will hinder or help you.
I am leaning towards supplements that nuture the immune system. I use small amounts of compound based CoQ10 in my rice protein shakes
like all things on the internet, for all the articles saying that Vit D3 is fantastic - there are just as many that say it is not.
it is up to each individual to make an informed decision for themselves
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Gabes, just came across a recent article about Mast Cell Activation Syndromes...trying to arrive at a global consensus on diagnostic criteria. According to their criteria, I would not qualify for MCA, but I guarantee I have Mast Cell Hyperplasia (which has no known significance yet - it's a byproduct of autoimmune diseases, infections, etc).
Thought you would find it interesting.
http://www.karger.com/Article/Pdf/328760
Thought you would find it interesting.
http://www.karger.com/Article/Pdf/328760
Every drug has side effects. But more than that, virtually every chemical used by the body has side effects. Glucose, for example, is the energy source of choice for the body, and especially for the brain. And yet glucose can cause all sorts of health problems, not the least of which is the fact that it is essential not only for the rapid development of cancer, but for it's very survival. Cancer dies without glucose.Cat's claw (Uncaria tomentosa, 250 mg per day) may help fight inflammation. Cat's claw may make leukemia, as well as autoimmune disorders, worse, and may worsen low blood pressure.
Consider salt, historically maligned by many confused experts as a primary cause of hypertension. But the two ingredients of which salt is comprised, sodium and chloride, are both essential blood electrolytes. Without them, our body cannot function properly (if it can function at all). Salt itself is toxic — it doesn't take much to kill a hog for example, especially if sufficient water is not available.
I'm trying to think of something that we eat or drink, that doesn't have negative attributes, and I'm drawing a blank. Even ordinary water can cause major (even fatal) problems, under certain circumstances.
My point is, absolutely nothing is totally risk-free. In the real world, totally black and white distinctions do not exist. Everything falls into a gray area (some grayer than others ). In every case, both the benefits and the disadvantages fall into a spectrum, so we have no choice but to weigh one against the other in order to determine a risk/reward ratio.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Tex
totally totally agree!
Zizzle
with all my medical stuff, PCOS, MC, mast cell, kidney issues, teeth issues, lichen sclorisis etc i am not seeking Dx's, long story short it is all inflammation, toxic inflammation.
my focus is on elminating what is causing the inflammation - elminating/minimising the root cause.
whilst ever the medical fraternity will not acknowledge that these conditions are linked /overlap, i will stick with my wholistic treatments.
totally totally agree!
Zizzle
with all my medical stuff, PCOS, MC, mast cell, kidney issues, teeth issues, lichen sclorisis etc i am not seeking Dx's, long story short it is all inflammation, toxic inflammation.
my focus is on elminating what is causing the inflammation - elminating/minimising the root cause.
whilst ever the medical fraternity will not acknowledge that these conditions are linked /overlap, i will stick with my wholistic treatments.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Gabes,
In fact this concept reminds me of the famous quote by Charles Dickens from A Tale of Two Cities that begins with, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times,". To carry the line of thought even further, it can be summed up concisely by saying, "Everything is good, and everything is bad". And there are no exceptions.
Tex
In fact this concept reminds me of the famous quote by Charles Dickens from A Tale of Two Cities that begins with, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times,". To carry the line of thought even further, it can be summed up concisely by saying, "Everything is good, and everything is bad". And there are no exceptions.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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I was planning to post this so this looks like a good place.
I have been closely monitoring my blood pressure and temperature while dealing with my thyroid/adrenal issues. At least three times now I've had microwave popcorn with pretty high sodium for dinner. Each time, the next morning, my blood pressure has been the lowest it's been in long while...usually teens over 70's. Regularly it's 30's or 40's over 70's. I'm still trying to figure out what this means. Any ideas? I know some are recommending 1/4-1/2 tsp. sea salt in water daily for thyroid/adrenal issues and I'm probably going to do that.
Hi Deb,
I can't comment on the bp results but I've been doing the salt in water thing for about 8 weeks. I typically go w/ 1/8 tsp or a 1/4 tsp in am. It looks like a lot of salt but I think I'm probably ingesting 4-5 x less salt per day than pre MC when I ate all convenience foods. I'm doing it in conjunction with the adenal diet for adrenal fatigue and it seems to be helping, albeit slowly. Are you thinking of it for thyroid or adrenal? Brandy
I can't comment on the bp results but I've been doing the salt in water thing for about 8 weeks. I typically go w/ 1/8 tsp or a 1/4 tsp in am. It looks like a lot of salt but I think I'm probably ingesting 4-5 x less salt per day than pre MC when I ate all convenience foods. I'm doing it in conjunction with the adenal diet for adrenal fatigue and it seems to be helping, albeit slowly. Are you thinking of it for thyroid or adrenal? Brandy