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Corn tortillas should contain corn, water, and lime. Most tortilla factories add 2 or 3 preservatives, to give them some shelf life, but fortunately, most people tolerate them well.
It sounds as though the ones you bought from Rudi's may be a substitute for flour tortillas, rather than actually being corn tortillas.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Why don't you steer clear of corn products due to GMO? How about soy?
As you have mentioned previously, you feel that gluten is the biggest culprit for us. But, do you limit the GMO foods?
Yep...substitute for flour tortillas. Should just stick to my corn ones. Will next time.
@Linda,
I don't stay away from GMO foods as of yet. Corn agrees with me well and so I eat it. Best to stay away from it probably but I'm addicted...lol! I don't eat plain ole corn though, just corn products. Soy....best to stay away from as well...not the best thing for you either. Whether you react or not.
Terri
Diagnosed with Lymphocytic Colitis in July, 2012 then with Celiac in November, 2012.
My EnteroLab test results showed that I do not produce antibodies to soy (at least I didn't the last time I was tested, which was about 6 or 7 years ago). So while I don't worry about trace amounts, I avoid all major sources of soy, because I don't consider it to be a healthy food choice for anyone.
While I'm not an advocate of GMO (because of where it will probably eventually lead, unless it is regulated), the genetic manipulation procedures that I have seen so far, don't worry me. Outside of being done in a laboratory, rather than occurring by natural random genetic mutation processes that have occurred in nature, since the beginning of time, there is really nothing significantly different about the process, other than the time element. It can take nature eons to produce certain mutations, and if they are not somehow selected for, in subsequent generations, the mutations may be lost forever. In the laboratory, the element of chance is removed, and the mutations can be selected for in subsequent generations. Those are the primary differences.
Modern wheat was created by cross-breeding, about 9,000 years ago. Emmer wheat was crossed with a species of goat grass to produce modern wheat. But Emmer wheat didn't always exist. It was created by an earlier hybridization that occurred between 10,000 and 40,000 years ago, when a wild wheat species (einkorn) crossed with a different species of goat grass. These early hybridizations probably occurred by chance, without human intervention, but it's possible that the more recent one (when modern wheat was created), may have been the result of selective breeding, by human intervention. All "upgrades" in wheat varieties since then, have been a result of selective breeding by farmers. Monsanto is currently experimenting with GMO changes to wheat, but so far, no seed is commercially available.
The point is, for at least approximately 9,000 years, humans have been selectively breeding wheat (and all other crops), by selecting seeds from plants that experienced genetic mutations that occurred naturally in nature. GMO removes the constraints of nature from the process, by targeting specific selection goals, and innovating them virtually immediately, by making the necessary genetic alterations in a laboratory setting.
Yes, there are risks involved, but there are plenty of risks in nature, also. Approximately 99.9 % of all the species that have ever lived on this planet are now extinct. And all but a miniscule percentage of them became extinct before humans ever set foot on the planet, certainly long before modern humans evolved. In fact, if it weren't for many of those extinctions, we wouldn't be here, because we could have never survived as a species with all the competition.
Sorry, I got a bit side-tracked there, but the point is, genetic mutations in the foods we eat have been occurring for many thousands of years, and they occurred in the ancestors of those foods for hundreds of thousands of years and longer, prior to that. Monsanto simply speeded up the process, and removed the randomness from it (and amassed a fortune from it, by convincing the patent office to grant them a patent on a modification of an otherwise natural genetic process, that IMO, shouldn't be patentable).
So to reiterate, at the present stage of development, I'm not concerned about eating GMO foods, but I'm apprehensive about the potential risks of future developments, as increasingly intrusive technology becomes available.
A current trend that really bothers me is the "engineered" foods and drinks. I detest "engineered food". By "engineered" food, I mean food that is synthetically created to provide certain nutrients that are supposedly healthier alternatives to conventional whole foods. Examples of this are drinks that are claimed to contain all sorts of nutritional benefits. They remind me of "pink slime". Even "enriched" foods fall into this category. People buy such foods thinking that they are getting the nutrients they need (because they are listed on the label), but research (in the rare cases where independent research is actually done) often shows that those added nutrients actually provide very little benefit (or none at all), when compared with the nutrients found in whole foods. Such tactics are good for sales, but the customer's money is often wasted.
Sorry for the long convoluted answer. I guess what I'm trying to say is that our food industry is progressively careening out of control in so many areas that it's becoming increasingly difficult to even say what is food and what is not, these days, and consumers have lost much of the control that they once had. Today, the government and the food industry are in control, and they decide what food choices we will have, and what we will be allowed to buy with our food money. Our great-great-grandparents would think that we were out of our minds, to eat most of the stuff that's promoted as "healthy" today.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
OK. If any of you are ever tempted to ask Tex a question (especially one related to agriculture) get ready to receive a well-researched answer and expect to learn a few facts I've just learned something about the history of wheat and the history of mankind and the history of Monsanto and the history of GMOs and the history of....
Thanks, Tex
Love,
Monique
Diagnosed 2011 with LC. Currently on Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN)
Thank you, Tex! Your knowledge and insight are appreciated. I've learned more this past week about my disease (and a whole more) than I have in the last 6 months I've suffered with it. As soon as I got some info from you and Leah, I started making some dietary changes, and they are working! Plus, it is all making sense now, where I felt I was all alone before, I have partners who care! Thank you again.
Linda wrote:As soon as I got some info from you and Leah, I started making some dietary changes, and they are working!
That's good to hear. I hope you continue to make steady progress.
You're very welcome,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Okay...so my GF flour tortillas were actually pretty good. A little dry but good nevertheless. But then again I like most GF bread so no surprise that I would like the tortillas. Will stick with the corn ones next time as these are loaded with fiber! I'm afraid to eat more than one. So my huge soy test over the weekend was good. I'm not used to having much gas but noticed I had more that evening. But no pain, D or cramping...actually felt good. I ate soy and GF tortillas again yesterday (leftovers) and felt the same last night. Don't know if it's the soy, GF tortillas or the So Delicious coconut ice cream. Just a reminder to try new foods one at a time! BTW....that coconut milk ice cream (vanilla bean) was almost better than regular ice cream.....was in heaven! And half a cup of it filled me up.
I will keep on avoiding a lot of soy but it would be nice to eat it every now and then and know I won't react.
@Monique...bought some Prego yesterday...there's no soy in it unless it's hidden under Natural Flavors. Wouldn't it say "contains soy" on the label somewhere?
Terri
Diagnosed with Lymphocytic Colitis in July, 2012 then with Celiac in November, 2012.
Terri wrote:Wouldn't it say "contains soy" on the label somewhere?
Yes, because soy is one of the 8 food allergens specifically named in the Food Allergen Labeling and Consumer Protection Act of 2004, which became effective on January 1, 2006.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
As a caution, I thought I could get away with a little soy here and there and was eating Tofutti ice cream. I had never experienced a migraine headache but got a terrible one after eating the Tofutti for a couple of weeks. I hadn't added anything else to my diet and decided to stop eating Tofutti. This was about 1 1/2 yrs ago and I haven't had a migraine since. Sometimes it takes a while for the reaction to set in. I can eat regular ice cream about once every 5-6 months without a reaction. If I started eating it more often I would get sick, i.e. gas, cramps, bloat. When you convince yourself it's okay to cheat a little here and there it is too easy to get cocky, go overboard and get into trouble. Maybe that's just me but I am better off staying completely away from anything that I tested positive to on Entero lab or MRT testing. Well, not chocolate. Chocolate doesn't count.
Sheila W
To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did.
A person who never made a mistake never tried something new. Einstein
Terri------I am glad you can eat! Thanks for the Prego sauce info.
Tex-----my egg test failed royally. The incredible edible egg sent me over the edge. I had one scrambled egg on a rice cake and I have been sick since. Going more, nausea, cramps. Home for the last 3 days. Missed out on all my weekend fun :-(
However, I don't believe it was the egg that did it since I have been eating eggs occasionally (never for breakfast though). I believe that it was cashew nuts and cranberries. When I went completely dairy free last week, I had to replace my afternoon snack with something since I couldn't have a yoghurt or fruit. So I bought some raw nuts and I think that's what did it. The day before the egg test I had cramps. i believe nuts are too harsh on us especially if you have them everyday.
So now I am back on juicing and soft foods and took an antihistamine as well this morning since I am nauseated and with cramps.
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Love,
Monique
Diagnosed 2011 with LC. Currently on Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN)
@Monique...sorry to hear about that. Yes, it's risky trying something new. I do well with a Lara Bar (tiny, tiny cashews in it) but I haven't braved a full nut yet. Your post is getting me to think I may hold off a little longer. Hope you feel better soon.
@Sheila....lol on your chocolate comment and I totally agree on that. Yeah...good advice. I figure if I keep eating the soy, it will give me issues eventually. Also, the same with the substitute ice cream. Better just to eat it a few times a year. We are having company over again on Easter and since I have some left over, will try a little again and see how it goes. I haven't done any expensive lab testing on foods yet so will have to go on how my body reacts. Thanks!
@Tex...well that's a relief....don't want to give up my Prego!
Terri
Diagnosed with Lymphocytic Colitis in July, 2012 then with Celiac in November, 2012.
Oh no Monique! I hope you recover quickly! It's too bad you can't have nuts. I was always able to eat them ( except peanut) and they definitely come in handy when you're looking for a quick snack.
Maybe you can try the egg again when you feel better.
Thanks for your wishes....yeah, I'll try eggs again sometimes when I feel brave (although they could have come in handy today since I am on soft foods and very little food)...I'd have to BE nuts to try NUTS :-)
Love,
Monique
Diagnosed 2011 with LC. Currently on Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN)
I've just learned something about the history of wheat and the history of mankind and the history of Monsanto and the history of GMOs and the history of....
