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Monique,

Don't go by my experiences, because most people who can't tolerate whole nuts don't seem to have a problem with the butters. If I recall correctly, there are only one or two other members who have posted that they can't tolerate the nut butters.

My digestive system just likes to be cantankerous, apparently. It has gotten to the point where it doesn't even like small to moderate amounts of sugar. For example, I can't eat Honey Nut Chex, without some D, and it's getting to where I have to put an upper limit on some of the hot stuff, these days. I'm beginning to think that my gut may be getting worn out from too many years of abusive service. :lol:

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Tex.

:lol: :lol: :lol: !!!!

Thanks!

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Monique,

It might be the cashews, not all nuts. The fruit of cashews has some nasty stuff (an alkali, if I remember rightly) and this can sometimes contaminate the shelled nuts. As a result, some batches of cashews will be pure hell on my gut, but others are bearable. Any other nut is fine, but cashews are a major high risk area for me.

And the cranberries we get here are always coated in something. I do wonder if that coating has soy or something else dodgy in it.

Give the eggs another go, they are a great source of protein if you can have them.

I have been spending a lot of time in paleoland. Go the bacon. Or make those eggs into mayo. yummmm.
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Monique, almond, cashew and sunflower seed butter are staples of mine. I make my own and make sure they get ground up very fine. I buy unsalted nuts without added oils and salt.

Hope you're feeling better!

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So...all this talk about nuts raises some questions for me...

For years my siblings and I would talk about the "family curse" of never knowing whether you were going to get sores in your mouth when you ate walnuts--just like our Dad. My reactions started to get worse when I tried some Blue Cheese Walnut Bread that a local bakery made about 10 years ago. I love blue cheese and so wanted to try it. (Can you imagine what it would do to me NOW??) After two or three bites, my mouth was so broken out that I threw the rest in the wastebasket and vowed never to do that again! Well, that wasn't the worst of it---I started getting short of breath and ended up having to haul out my inhaler. When I told my internist about it later, he quickly wrote me a prescription for and EpiPen and told me to stay away from tree nuts and especially walnuts. What I have noticed since is that there were some tree nuts I could have now and again, but then after enough exposure, I would start with the sore mouth, which told me I was done with tree nuts of any kind--to include pine nuts. I never connected coconut as a tree nut. I thought that was a separate reaction, but I react the same way that I do to walnuts with coconut and even using it on my skin now, causes itching.

That said, would the butters be any better? And how about the milks? I miss dairy so much, but I think that I react to soy and I really don't believe that rice milk is so healthy. It just pushes blood glucose higher. And Hemp milk is just not tasty to me and seems unnatural. The flours too, might be okay, but do I want to take the chance? I don't know, but I also don't want to be so cautious that I keep myself from some foods that I could be eating. Would I be playing with dynamite to do that?
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Hi Jane,

That's quite a dilemma. If I were in your shoes, I would be very careful about anything connected with nuts, because anaphylaxis is a world away from the type of symptoms that most of us show, if we react to them at all.

If it were strictly a digestive system issue, it would be a different matter. Most members of this board who are sensitive to nuts seem to be able to handle the butters just fine. I can't, and there are several other members here in the same situation, but we seem to be in the minority. But I don't experience any anaphylactic symptoms from nuts or their butters — they just disrupt my digestion and cause me to have D.

Surprisingly, though, I can tolerate almond milk just fine. I'm trying to remember if anyone here might have mentioned that they can't tolerate almond milk, but I'm drawing a blank. But if you should decide to try it, be sure that you have an EpiPen handy (I would have a spare, also, just in case the first one didn't work).

Incidentally, I didn't like hemp milk either, when I first tried it. But I found that after I used it a few times, I liked it much better — better than cow's milk. I would still be using it, but it always seemed to cause a slight amount of bloating, so I eventually switched over to almond milk.

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Jane,

On the enterolab test I took I tested VERY high on walnuts. No other nuts. I didn't know it since I never ate any. I just started eating nuts because I lack so many other things in my diet.

But I would heed Tex's warning and NOT have them. Playing Russian roulette I think...

Bfcus and Jean---thanks for all the good wishes and advice.


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Okay, good to know that I am not being a "wimp" for not wanting to tempt fate and try butter or anything else made from the nuts. I think I had a bad reaction to that Blue Cheese Walnut bread so many years ago because the walnuts were concentrated and it probably also had walnut oil in it. Just too much for me. Not going to try it again in any other way. EpiPens are expensive and my insurance resents having to pay for them. I would think that they'd hate more to have to pay for an ER visit, but then I guess I am being too practical. :smile:
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Jane, I have family members with anaphylactic issues, including me. I had a reaction twice, to the only thing I can figure out, was old celery. My breathing was labored, my eyes swelled shut (for several days) and it was really scary. My daughter had the same reaction to hazelnuts. I am still eating celery. I keep an EpiPen on hand but think we're being "ripped off" with them. I wanted two (an adult and a child) as we go to a cabin that is too far from medical help. I question the expiration dates. I think I'll get one and if a child issue arises will administer half the dose which seems to be right.
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DebE--I questioned the expiration date as well, but I talked to a friend who is a pharmacist (she does not work at the pharmacy I do business with, so there was nothing in it for her to try to get my money) and she told me that the EpiPens are really no good at a year. I was soooo disappointed. Since then, I have read that there is something about the mix of the epinephrine in them and the vehicle they are delivered in that causes them to break down. I'm sure that they could do it another way, but why do that if you can make more money on desperate people?

I learned the hard way never to assume that the expiration date is far beyond what it says it is (it usually is far beyond the date the FDA makes the pharmacy come up with). I took some Benadryl once for a reaction to a medication and it did absolutely no good and in fact, I ended up in full anaphylaxis. It wasn't until I returned from the hospital and looked at the bottle to find that it was about 2 years beyond its date.
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Sorry, I had the wrong Deb--I should have said Deb, not DebE. :smile:
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she told me that the EpiPens are really no good at a year
That is disappointing. I have a high deductible and end up paying for most all of my medical care. Last time I got the adult and kids versions it was
over $300! Major rip-off!
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No one has mentioned duck eggs ? The only reason I ask is I have 5 ducks as pets and receive "free" eggs daily. I have not been brave enough to try them myself but my neighbor eats every egg I give her. I've been told that they have a much different flavor that chicken eggs but are great for baking.
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Hello Everybody,

Since we are all still having this eggstraordinary conversation---let me ask a question that's been hanging over my head like a dark cloud :lol:

When are eggs too OLD to eat? Is there such a thing as an old egg? Since I don't eat them often, they sit in my fridge for a good while and when I crack them they look fine...I've been wondering if that single egg that sent me over the edge might have been too old...(like more than 2 weeks or more in the fridge).


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It is my understanding that they are good for at least a month and sometimes more, Monique. Mmmmm...duck eggs! They are great! I would certainly eat them if I had access to them.
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