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Gluten vs Rice Kind of confusing

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My rusults were

Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 5 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 10 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA 5 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 6 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-soy IgA 4 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)

***Food toward which you displayed most immunologic reactivity: Rice

I called and spoke with the nurse at Entrolabs and she stated that I should go off Gluten and rice altogether. Gluten I have given up months ago, but most of the things I substitute it for are made with rice. My cookie mix that I have been making cookies with, my morning cereals, pasta and many other things. This thing is all new to me and change is something most people including myself do not like. Is rice something I can add back in or is it a life time band kind of thing. The results do not have any type of number for Rice, like the itmes listed above.

Thanks for any input.
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Actually, since rice is the only food that you showed any reaction to in the 11 Antigenic Foods test, it does have a numbered result — it's "5", which I interpret to be mean that rice should be a very minor problem (since the result is less than 10).

However, if you have been carefully following the GF diet for at least several months, and you haven't seen any improvement in your symptoms, then I agree with Phyllis (at the lab), it may be time to also cut rice out of your diet, to see if that is what is preventing you from achieving remission. Corn Chex is better than Rice Chex, anyway, IMO, and there are substitutions using ingredients other than rice for most of the other things you named, including corn-based pasta.
Doug wrote:Is rice something I can add back in or is it a life time band kind of thing.
That's impossible to say, at this point. If avoiding it will bring remission, then allow your digestive system to heal for a year or more without rice, and they try adding it back into your diet (in small amounts at first), to see if you can tolerate it after healing.

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Sorry to hear that Doug. Just when you think it's safe to eat rice and it's not. :sad:
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Doug, I think eliminating it is worth a try. I hope it is the last piece of your puzzle. You are right about baking. Most recipes are with some lind of rice flour. If you look up some "paleo baking" recipes, you could find some new things to try with no rice.
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Doug, Leah is right. There are lots of good recipes for cookies, muffins, breads, etc. on paleo websites. I have been baking things with almond flour and I like them more than the traditional flour versions for the most part. Rice was listed as intermediate immunological reaction for me, so I have been avoiding it.

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Post by brandy »

Hi Doug,

I saw your post and thought I'd share my experience.
Is rice something I can add back in or is it a life time band kind of thing
My experience is that I've been able to add back some of my higher level enterolab foods. Highest level for me was walnut, corn, white potato and tuna. My scores were 18 on the highest level.
I didn't get enterolab until very late in the game, i.e. I'd been GF, DF and SF and low egg for 7=1/2 months and got enterolab 3 months after my last entocort tablet. I was doing "okayish" when I got my enterolab results. I'd known corn was problematic for me and I've still not retested corn as I got such extreme dizziness when eating corn. Walnut I've never like much anyways so no big deal. Rice which scored medium caused me pretty serious dizziness when I received the results and still gives me fatigue (dizziness has gone away). White potatoes although in the highest level gave me nominal dizziness but nothing like corn rice or quinoa. I reduced my intake of white potatoes and never completely gave them up. Tuna--I'd been eating this all along and honestly had less issues with tuna than with rice (medium) or white potatoes so I kept eating tuna but reduced the frequency. Again by the time I got Enterolab I was doing "okayish." If I was still struggling at time of results I'd have eliminated white potatoes and tuna completely for 6 months then retested them. Currently I have no issues with white potatoes but still get fatigue from rice (which was medium.)

Hopefully this gives some insite and YMMV.

Some corn suggestions: corn pasta, corn bread, corn tortilla chips, corn tortillas, paleo muffins recipe on Dees recipe site, corn chex. (paleo muffins--not corn but has no rice. It's on the most recent page of Dees recipes. A lot of us have successfully made the paleo muffins and they travel well.

Also check out Elena Amsterdam's "the Gluten Free almond flour cookbook." It has cookies (easy recipes) and cakes made from almond flour and no rice flour. I'm finding almond flour is cheaper at Trader Joes if you have one rather than Publix.

Brandy
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