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Hi Monique,

I've got a batch of your Mexican Rice simmering. I even found some Jasmine rice. :thumbsup:

The only hitch I can see is that I'm using an induction cooktop (rather than a flame), and even set on the minimum setting (1 out of 10), it puts out a lot of heat. It has a built-in timer, which I set on 25, but I may have to keep an eye on it in case it gets through sooner.

I may have been a little heavy-handed on the paprika, too, but we'll see how it turns out. :grin:

Thanks for the recipe. So far, it looks good. :hungry:

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OK, I checked it at 18 minutes, and as I suspected, it was pretty much out of water and sticking to the bottom, so I cut off the heat.

So to correct this next time, should I add about 50% more water, or shorten the cooking time, or a combination? The rice seems to be pretty dang good, even though it only cooked for about 70 % of the proper time. (Of course it actually cooked a little longer, because I let it sit with the lid on, after turning off the heat. But remember that an induction cooktop does not get hot (except for heat that conducts back from the pot), so it probably causes the pot to cool faster, rather than to help it stay hot, after the power is turned off.

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Hi Tex,

Great that you found jasmine rice! It's the best. Well, if it is cooked after 18 minutes and it tastes good to you, then you good. Is it moist and not grainy? You're not eating gravel, are you?

Don't add 50 percent more water, you'll drown it. If you want to add more water next time, I'd add 1/4 cup water or even less.

Tell us how it tastes.

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Monique wrote:Is it moist and not grainy? You're not eating gravel, are you?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

No, it's cooked, and it's nice and moist, and it tastes great.

Too much heat is a common problem with induction cooktops. The minimum setting is just not low enough. And the downside is that it tends to cause food to stick and burn way too easily. Fortunately, it didn't burn, but it did stick, so cleanup was not exactly a picnic. :roll: And I'd be afraid to use a pot with a non-stick coating, because it wouldn't last long before it got too hot and ruined the coating.

I'll try a little more water next time, and keep a closer watch on it, to find the optimum time. If that doesn't work, I'll cave in and use the rice cooker.

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Tex, that's what you get for having one of those fancy, new-fangled cooktops :grin:! I love my gas one, but do you even have access to natural gas way out in the country?

Glad your rice turned out fine. I knew Monique wouldn't lead you astray.

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Tex,

I was going to ask you what an induction stove is when Jean chime in and said it was a NEWfangled thing. Well, here I thought it was an OLDFANGLED thing. I know of induction OVENS but not cook tops. All I know is gas or electric.

Anyway, for next time you do 1 1/4 cup water and use a teflon coated pan. No sticking. You must have one.

About your rice cooker. Can you saute onions in them and work with them like a regular pan? All I ever saw coming out of them is white rice. And that can get quite boring...

Anyway, glad it tasted good :lol: I feel relieved that you like my cooking.... :lol:

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Jean wrote:I love my gas one, but do you even have access to natural gas way out in the country?
Out here we use LP gas (liquified petroleum gas, which these days is mostly propane). When I was a kid, it was butane, and anytime the temp would go below about 18 degrees F, the butane would stop flowing, because it couldn't volatilize, so you didn't have any heat. :shock:

When that happened, we would have to build a big fire under the propane tank, in order to get the gas warm enough to flow. :shock: These days everyone would be scared to death to try something so foolhardy, but back in those days, it was routine. :roll:


Monique,

An inductuction cooktop transfers electrical energy by using magnetic induction to agitate the molecules in the bottom of the pot, so that only the pot is heated (not the cooktop itself). The pot has to be magnetic, of course, so either cast iron or magnetic alloys of stainless steel can be used on them (or pots with cladding of copper or iron). The advantages of induction heating are mainly efficiency and speed. Since the energy is concentrated where it is needed, much less energy is wasted, and it can boil water before you can say "Jack Robinson" (as they say).

Sure, I love non-stick coatings on pots, skillets, etc. I even use a non-stick griddle. But I'm not aware of anyone who sells a pot with a non-stick coating that would hold up very long for induction cooking.

Because it heats so rapidly, you can have a temperature spike that destroys a non-stick coating before you even realize that it's too hot. You can select a "temperature" mode for cooking, rather than a "power" mode, but the temperature rises faster than the feedback system can keep up with it, so you could destroy the coating before the feedback system would realize that the temp was too high. That's because the temperature sensors have to be built into the cooktop (not the pot), but since the cooktop is glass, it takes a significant amount of time for the bottom of the pot to transfer the heat to the cooktop sensors (heat transfer is a time-dependent process). IOW, there is a huge time lag between the temperature rise in the bottom of the pot, and the temperature rise in the cooktop sensors. By the time the bottom of the pot heats the temp sensors enough to cause a power adjustment, the temperature of the bottom of the pot could already be way above the safe limits for the coating.

Otherwise it's a nifty system. :lol:

No, I don't know of a way to saute onions in a rice cooker. One has to prep all ingredients beforehand (by whatever methods are necessary), and then add all the ingredients to the rice cooker before starting it. But it's not that much trouble to saute onions separately, first.

Yep, I like that recipe. :thumbsup:

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Thanks Tex for explaining it all to this technology ignoramus :lol: As always, you provide a thorough answer.

Well, you can try it again with more water this time and see if it works better. And if it doesn't then you can saute your onions, add the rice and all the ingredients, bring to boil and transfer the whole thing to the rice cooker. That's what I'd do.

so, you're telling me DON'T BUY an induction stove top because I tell you I cook everything on the stove top with teflon coated pans. So if I have to scrape the stuff out of the pans, I'd go bonkers for sure. :lol:

BTW, you can 1/2 cup of corn (can you have corn?) or garbanzos or sweet bell (red) peppers. You can buy a small can of mexican corn (it has peppers in it) and just add half can. A variation on the theme.

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I definitely don't recommend mixing non-stick coatings with induction cooking. Induction cooktops work fine as long as plenty of water is available, but when it runs low — look out. :lol: And the problem is that it tends to run low sooner than expected.

I recommend them as an added way to cook, because they're so fast and so handy. In addition to replacing the entire cooktop of your range, you can buy them as individual, hotplate-sized devices that you can sit anywhere (or carry with you anywhere, such as out on the patio, or wherever, as long as you have an electrical receptacle available). Contrary to some of the ads for them, I wouldn't recommend them as a replacement for your current range, but they can be mighty handy for certain jobs.

I'm not a bean fan, and bell peppers don't seem to get along very well with my gut, but I may check out the Mexican corn the next time I get to a grocery store. Thanks.

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Hey Tex. Glad you tried Monique's rice. it does sound good. Did you enter it in the recipe section? If I were you, I'd only cook it for 15 minutes and then turn the heat off and let it sit for 5 minutes. Rice does best if it is "left alone" ( no lid lifting) because it's the steam that cooks rice the best. More water could make it mushy.

I saw an infomercial on one of those cooktops. It would be great for a dorm room or studio that doesn't have a stove top. Anyway, let us know if you try it again and what you results are.

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Leah,

That's basically what I did, except that I waited 3 additional minutes before I checked, and it was already slightly too late. I say it was too late, because the rice was sticking, but the remaining moisture was about right. So too much heat appears to be the problem. I realize that ideally the lid needs to say in place, but when you've got too much heat, and so you're not sure when you're going to run out of water, not lifting the lid is not actually an option. More water shouldn't make it mushy if the cooking time matches the time needed to evaporate all but the amount of water needed to remain, in order to properly moisturize the rice after the "holding" period (within limits, of course). I'll probably also try a shorter cook time, though, to see which method results in the best rice. I have a nagging suspicion, though, that there is no good solution using this system, simply because I can't turn the heat down far enough.

The company in those infomercials has a rather poor record of customer service (it always sounds as though you're going to get a lot better deal than you actually end up getting, and your chances of getting any problems corrected are slim, according to customer complaints).

This is the one I have:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000MVN1M6/ref ... 1_ST1_dp_1

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Tex,

I checked your link on this newfangled thing you've got----don't look like I'm gonna buy it anytime soon :lol: If I have to carry a magnet with me to check on pots I buy, it just seems like it's just too much technology for me. And if I can't use the plethora of non-stick cookware in my cabinet, it's just too much technology for me. So it boils water in no time. It's just too much technology for me. :-)

Americans are the only people on earth who stand impatient in front of a microwave and yell "come on, come on, come on!" .

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Monique wrote:Americans are the only people on earth who stand impatient in front of a microwave and yell "come on, come on, come on!" .
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yep, we always seem to be in a hurry, though I've never figured out why. :headscratch:

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Laughing with you, Tex :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I have used an induction cooktop for about 6 years and love it. Funny story how I got one..... It was my sons High School graduation and we were getting ready for a party. At the time we had just a glass top electric stove but had recently put in a new fan above the stove in the center island. Just hours before everyone was to arrive my DH was putting the final trim on the fan above the stove, he had covered it with a blanket so as to not scratch it but instead he put his knee through the glass!!! Didn't hurt himself but we were having 50 people over in just a few hours. There goes making anything on the stove top, thank goodness we were BBQing and having mostly cold salads. We went shopping for a new stove soon after that and thought about putting in gas but when we discovered induction and were mesmerized and decided to give it a whirl. I do not seem to have the same problem as Tex but I live at 4800 ft elevation and that may make a difference with the water boiling away too fast. My only problem is we bought a 6 burner with 2 regular and 3 induction burners, the mistake was I never use the regular burners because the speed of the induction spoils you!!! :wink:
I have always cooked in stainless and never use non stick cookware because of the release of toxic chemicals from nonstick. You might want to read http://www.mercola.com/Downloads/bonus/ ... eport.aspx to learn about nonstick cookware. Anything to reduce the toxic load, we surley do not need more problems than MC :wink:
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