Multivitamins/supplements...
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Multivitamins/supplements...
Since, with our lovely illness, nutrients aren't absorbed as well, or, we're unable to eat the nutritious foods we would like to, how about liquid vitamins? Are they safe? Will they help provide the energy we may be lacking?
Joanne
"A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Must Begin With A Single Step"
"A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Must Begin With A Single Step"
Jazi,
I take several liquid and sublinguals vitamins. B12 sublinguals, B complex in liquid form, D in liquids form, iodine drops, liquid magnesium/calcium. Usually if they make it in a pill, they make it in a liquid form (although it can be more expensive). Also, it is important to find the liquid vitamins that don't contain fillers.
The trick is to take what your gut can handle and find a way to absorb the other necessary vitamins. For example, magnesium. Pill form maybe a no-no, but topical magnesium could supply what you need.
If you can get blood work done, this would be a great stepping stone to see what you are lacking in and then concentrate on upping your levels with a vitamin supplement that doesn't cause you grief.
Mandy
I take several liquid and sublinguals vitamins. B12 sublinguals, B complex in liquid form, D in liquids form, iodine drops, liquid magnesium/calcium. Usually if they make it in a pill, they make it in a liquid form (although it can be more expensive). Also, it is important to find the liquid vitamins that don't contain fillers.
The trick is to take what your gut can handle and find a way to absorb the other necessary vitamins. For example, magnesium. Pill form maybe a no-no, but topical magnesium could supply what you need.
If you can get blood work done, this would be a great stepping stone to see what you are lacking in and then concentrate on upping your levels with a vitamin supplement that doesn't cause you grief.
Mandy
I'm not getting used to it yet as we had a pharmaceutical rep bring lunch to the office yesterday (I refrained), I ate what I cooked and I also refrained from the plate of brownies. I'm looking at this as kind of a Godsend as I have been wanting to change my eating habits. I just wish I could eat my fruit and salad.
Anyway, back to supplements... I ordered this ---> http://www.shop.com/Isotonix+reg+Calciu ... r=C7001538
I'm afraid of not getting enough calcium and at my age, I don't want to mess around with it especially since I've had my share of steroid usage (asthma) and terrified of bone loss.
Anyway, back to supplements... I ordered this ---> http://www.shop.com/Isotonix+reg+Calciu ... r=C7001538
I'm afraid of not getting enough calcium and at my age, I don't want to mess around with it especially since I've had my share of steroid usage (asthma) and terrified of bone loss.
Joanne
"A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Must Begin With A Single Step"
"A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Must Begin With A Single Step"
Hi Joanne,
Contrary to popular belief, most people in developed countries get too much calcium, not too little. As evidence of this, the countries with the highest levels of milk consumption have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Not only is too much calcium counterproductive for bone health, but it can be dangerous in some cases. Supplemental doses in excess of roughly 1,000 mg per day have been shown to be associated with adverse cardiac events:
Researchers suggest consumers meet their calcium needs through diet alone
The best way to boost bone health is to make sure that you are getting plenty of vitamin D and magnesium, because without them, your body cannot utilize calcium to promote the production of new bone tissue. Most people get plenty of calcium in their diet, but it just passes right on through or winds up causing health problems instead, because they don't have a good calcium/vitamin D/magnesium balance.
Magnesium Is Crucial for Bones
Tex
Contrary to popular belief, most people in developed countries get too much calcium, not too little. As evidence of this, the countries with the highest levels of milk consumption have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Not only is too much calcium counterproductive for bone health, but it can be dangerous in some cases. Supplemental doses in excess of roughly 1,000 mg per day have been shown to be associated with adverse cardiac events:
Study: Calcium Pills Double Heart Attack RiskSome people, especially women, take daily calcium supplement tablets to guard against bone loss. But new research suggests doing so doubles the chances of suffering a heart attack.
The study, which included 24,000 people age 35 to 64, is reported in the medical journal Heart. The authors, while noting that calcium is important, suggested they believe consumers should ingest it naturally.
Researchers suggest consumers meet their calcium needs through diet alone
The best way to boost bone health is to make sure that you are getting plenty of vitamin D and magnesium, because without them, your body cannot utilize calcium to promote the production of new bone tissue. Most people get plenty of calcium in their diet, but it just passes right on through or winds up causing health problems instead, because they don't have a good calcium/vitamin D/magnesium balance.
Magnesium Is Crucial for Bones
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Joanne,
I don't know anything about this particular supplement. What concerns me is that there is not a complete listing of all ingredients, both active and inactive, so you can't really be sure what's in it. I only buy supplements that state all their ingredients and also state that they are gluten, dairy, soy and egg free. One brand that I use is Kirkmans:
http://kirkmanlabs.com/
Also Pure Encapsulations:
http://www.pureencapsulations.com/
But even with these brands you have to check the labels to make sure they don't contain any ingredients that you are trying to avoid.
Of course they tend to be more pricey.
Jean
I don't know anything about this particular supplement. What concerns me is that there is not a complete listing of all ingredients, both active and inactive, so you can't really be sure what's in it. I only buy supplements that state all their ingredients and also state that they are gluten, dairy, soy and egg free. One brand that I use is Kirkmans:
http://kirkmanlabs.com/
Also Pure Encapsulations:
http://www.pureencapsulations.com/
But even with these brands you have to check the labels to make sure they don't contain any ingredients that you are trying to avoid.
Of course they tend to be more pricey.
Jean
Jazi,
as Tex pointed out Calcium is not necessarly the supplement you want to be taking to build strong bones. If you are afraid of bone loss look at Strontium. It is the 15th most abundent element on earth and is absorbed into the bone just as calcium is and builds stronger bone. I have been able to reverse bone loss due to steroid use with this. It is the primary drug used in Europe and Australia for osteoperosis and osteopenia. My endocrinologist put me on it years ago and it has worked well.
as Tex pointed out Calcium is not necessarly the supplement you want to be taking to build strong bones. If you are afraid of bone loss look at Strontium. It is the 15th most abundent element on earth and is absorbed into the bone just as calcium is and builds stronger bone. I have been able to reverse bone loss due to steroid use with this. It is the primary drug used in Europe and Australia for osteoperosis and osteopenia. My endocrinologist put me on it years ago and it has worked well.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the one less traveled by and that has made all the difference.
Robert Frost
Robert Frost
Jean, here are the ingredients... http://www.shop.com/Isotonix+reg+Calciu ... .xhtml#tx1 Thank you for the links to those sites but I hoping to find a supplement in liquid form. Martket America does make some but now I'm hesitant.
Thanks for your input everyone. It's already been ordered so maybe I'll just take it a few times a week? I will definitely look into all of your recommendations.
Thanks for your input everyone. It's already been ordered so maybe I'll just take it a few times a week? I will definitely look into all of your recommendations.
Joanne
"A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Must Begin With A Single Step"
"A Journey Of A Thousand Miles Must Begin With A Single Step"
Joanne,
That's not a complete list of ingredients. What it says is "key ingredients" but it does not list inactive ingredients which can be just as important when it comes to sensitivities. Any liquid vitamin has to suspend these active ingredients (vitamins and minerals) in something and unless you know what that something is there is no way to know what you are actually consuming. the website "IHerb" is a good place to search for supplements. It lists all the ingredients in their products and all the allergens and there prices are pretty good.
http://www.iherb.com/
Jean
That's not a complete list of ingredients. What it says is "key ingredients" but it does not list inactive ingredients which can be just as important when it comes to sensitivities. Any liquid vitamin has to suspend these active ingredients (vitamins and minerals) in something and unless you know what that something is there is no way to know what you are actually consuming. the website "IHerb" is a good place to search for supplements. It lists all the ingredients in their products and all the allergens and there prices are pretty good.
http://www.iherb.com/
Jean
Joanne,
I had the same reservations as Jean about the inactive ingredients. Manufacturers of pharmaceutical products are not required by law to list inactive ingredients — only the active ingredients must be listed. Many/most manufacturers list inactive ingredients voluntarily, as an aid for customers who have food sensitivities, but they are not required by law to do so, because the food labeling law of 2006 specifically exempts pharmaceuticals from the allergen labeling requirements.
The problem is that when we react to a vitamin or mineral supplement, it's almost always due to one or more of the inactive ingredients. I have a sneaking suspicion that in most cases where inactive ingredients are not listed, it's because the ingredients come from so many sources that they may not even know what all of them are.
Tex
I had the same reservations as Jean about the inactive ingredients. Manufacturers of pharmaceutical products are not required by law to list inactive ingredients — only the active ingredients must be listed. Many/most manufacturers list inactive ingredients voluntarily, as an aid for customers who have food sensitivities, but they are not required by law to do so, because the food labeling law of 2006 specifically exempts pharmaceuticals from the allergen labeling requirements.
The problem is that when we react to a vitamin or mineral supplement, it's almost always due to one or more of the inactive ingredients. I have a sneaking suspicion that in most cases where inactive ingredients are not listed, it's because the ingredients come from so many sources that they may not even know what all of them are.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Dear Tex and all,
In another post I had a little rant about listing inactive ingredients not being mandated by the FDA in medications.
I wonder if others (e.g. from Celiac, Crohns, UC and other boards) have/could join forces to petition?
It is ironic how authorities (e.g. in New York) are strict about preventing their constituents from finding out about food sensitivities in the gut from the best source of testing......... and....... how careless the FDA is about getting the pharma industry to list ingredients that might cause sensitivities. It is double ironic that a drug, whose active ingredients are taken to reduce inflammation, may have invisible inactive ingredients that cause inflammation. Actually, it is not ironic, it is down right stupid.
I am thinking of writing a letter to the media in Hong Kong about not labeling inactive ingredients on medication and wonder what facts I can draw on to give it some punch.
Best wishes, Anthony
In another post I had a little rant about listing inactive ingredients not being mandated by the FDA in medications.
I wonder if others (e.g. from Celiac, Crohns, UC and other boards) have/could join forces to petition?
It is ironic how authorities (e.g. in New York) are strict about preventing their constituents from finding out about food sensitivities in the gut from the best source of testing......... and....... how careless the FDA is about getting the pharma industry to list ingredients that might cause sensitivities. It is double ironic that a drug, whose active ingredients are taken to reduce inflammation, may have invisible inactive ingredients that cause inflammation. Actually, it is not ironic, it is down right stupid.
I am thinking of writing a letter to the media in Hong Kong about not labeling inactive ingredients on medication and wonder what facts I can draw on to give it some punch.
Best wishes, Anthony
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"Softly, softly catchee monkey".....
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Ant--Not ironic at all! It's wherever the money is and it suits the pharmaceuticals best interests. Some lobbyist worked hard in NY and MD, to make sure lab work money stayed in those states. Some pharmaceutical lobbyists made sure that inactive ingredients are not listed because it probably would cost them more, it's inconvenient, and they'll get more buyers if they don't know what's in the drug or supplement.
I'm with you--I'd love to see us get up a petition!
I'm with you--I'd love to see us get up a petition!
Jane
Diagnosed with Lymphocytic Colitis 12/19/12
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Charles A. Beard
Diagnosed with Lymphocytic Colitis 12/19/12
"When it gets dark enough,you can see the stars."
Charles A. Beard