I'd say within the last week, I have had bloating and "pain to the touch" in my abdomen. I can tell that things are just not quite right although no D. Now pencil poops. Hmmmm. I am trying to pinpoint something I have been doing differently. I' thinking either i ate something a week ago and I am still reacting OR I have added a slow magnesium and a selenium supplement recently. any thoughts?
Thanks,
Leah
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Leah,
I wonder about the selenium, because the body doesn't need much selenium. Does your breath smell like garlic?
Side Effects of Selenium
Tex
I wonder about the selenium, because the body doesn't need much selenium. Does your breath smell like garlic?
Side Effects of Selenium
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Leah
for me, the introduction of any new ingredients causes some inflammation, whether it be food, supplement, med, even a change in water supply!
as much as possible i start supplements/meds as 1/8th dose, then gradually work up to full dose
for me, the introduction of any new ingredients causes some inflammation, whether it be food, supplement, med, even a change in water supply!
as much as possible i start supplements/meds as 1/8th dose, then gradually work up to full dose
Gabes Ryan
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Leah, I am currently taking 400 mcg of selenium (after starting on 200 mcg) for thyroid issues. Many believe it helps with the conversion of T4 to T3 (though you probably already know that). http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/selenium/ Deb
The recommended daily allowance (RDA) is 200 mcg, and most people probably get at least that much from their diet. It's in egg, seafood, poultry and beef, and according to the article I referenced, one raw Brazil nut is enough to provide the RDA of selenium.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Tex
RDA is a number that determines the amount necessary to prevent disease. Do not confuse this number with the dosage that is necessary for OPTIMAL health. These are two very different subjects and are often confused. Selenium is a very important antioxidant and should not cause inflamation. Magnesium on the other hand is very difficult for those with IBD to handle. I would love to be able to reap the benefits of magnesium but cannot tolerate it in any large amount in a supplement. Had to stop all calcium supplements due to MG content. Can tolerate the small amounts in multi vits.
RDA is a number that determines the amount necessary to prevent disease. Do not confuse this number with the dosage that is necessary for OPTIMAL health. These are two very different subjects and are often confused. Selenium is a very important antioxidant and should not cause inflamation. Magnesium on the other hand is very difficult for those with IBD to handle. I would love to be able to reap the benefits of magnesium but cannot tolerate it in any large amount in a supplement. Had to stop all calcium supplements due to MG content. Can tolerate the small amounts in multi vits.
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Hi Leah,
I'd guess the magnesium, which has a known laxative effect. It is often used (magnesium citrate) as an OTC treatment for constipation. Or it could be inert ingredients in the preps, but I'm sure you checked those out.
I also believe that some of us MCers may experience "seasonal" flares, unrelated to foods. I wonder if it's not possible for allergens like pollen to cause a flare - there's no question that we swallow a lot on days when the pollen level is high.
Like you, I responded well to Claritin even though I have never had respiratory allergies.
Love,
Polly
I'd guess the magnesium, which has a known laxative effect. It is often used (magnesium citrate) as an OTC treatment for constipation. Or it could be inert ingredients in the preps, but I'm sure you checked those out.
I also believe that some of us MCers may experience "seasonal" flares, unrelated to foods. I wonder if it's not possible for allergens like pollen to cause a flare - there's no question that we swallow a lot on days when the pollen level is high.
Like you, I responded well to Claritin even though I have never had respiratory allergies. Love,
Polly
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I realize that, but for some people (remember we are all different), the ingestion of more than 400 mcg of selenium per day can lead to selenosis (a toxic condition). And everyone has selenium in their daily diet which has to be considered as part of the daily dosage.KD wrote:RDA is a number that determines the amount necessary to prevent disease.
You are quite correct that magnesium is a problem for many/most of us. But on the other hand, most people these days are deficient in magnesium, and magnesium deficiency can cause a lot of problems. I have no trouble with 400 mg per day, in an oral supplement, but 250 can be a problem for some of us. That's why we recommend transdermal supplementation in those cases, using a magnesium-containing lotion, or adding Epsom salts to bathwater for soaking.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
I'm sure the first part of that statement is true, because the mineral content of every plant product in the world depends on soil nutrient availability, pH of the soil, general growing season conditions (including temperature, fertility, and moisture history), and/or any supplemental spray applications made to the growing plant. So that claim generally applies to every food item that comes from plants of any kind.Deb wrote:It appears that the quality of the soil determines the amount of selenium in Brazil nuts and that they're not a dependable way to get it.
Does anyone eat Brazil nuts? I've never eaten one in my life, and since it appears that I'm no longer able to tolerate any nuts, the odds of me trying one in the future appear to be pretty slim.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Polly,
Thanks for pointing that out (about the magnesium citrate). I notice that the last magnesium supplement I picked up is in the form of magnesium citrate.
I haven't noticed any major problems so far, but just to be the safe side (since it's in the form of 400 mg tablets), I think I'll replace it with a different version.
Love,
Tex
Thanks for pointing that out (about the magnesium citrate). I notice that the last magnesium supplement I picked up is in the form of magnesium citrate.
I haven't noticed any major problems so far, but just to be the safe side (since it's in the form of 400 mg tablets), I think I'll replace it with a different version.
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Sure, those rates shouldn't cause any problems. For some reason I was thinking that you might be taking more.Leah wrote:Tex, I'm taking 200 mg. of selenium and 143 of magnesium. these numbers seem pretty reasonable, yes?
Unless your regular diet is pretty high in either or both of those, you should be able to double the dose without any problems.
That said, you could still get abdominal pain if the magnesium is in the form of magnesium citrate, or if you happen to be abnormally sensitive to selenium intake levels.
Magnesium glycinate is claimed to be the safest form to take (least likely to cause D, cramps, or similar issues).
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.