Does anyone else start to think they can eat anthing!?
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something to be mindful of....
if you eat a trigger food (whether it is a super sensitive trigger or just a mild trigger) or you have other triggers such as meds or stress - you are causing inflammation in your gut. as we age, and depending on other health issues, the bodies ability to fully heal from inflammed episodes reduces.
the same for the Mast Cell/histamine situation that many talk about, you are having contact with something that is causing inflammation, not just in your gut but elsewhere in the body.
the body can handle small amounts of inflammation here and there.
Big amounts of inflamation OR constant inflammation basically becomes a major toxin your body.
it can cause damage to your kidneys, your heart, joints, etc. continual inflammation in the gut (you can be inflammed and meds will mask the symptoms) will cause leaky gut which puts a huge pressure on your liver.
there are studies coming out that link toxic inflammation to depression, nervous system issues, heart issues etc etc.
there is no right way or wrong way - it all depends on you the individual. your health so far before MC, what other health issues you have now, etc.
there is no set in stone formula that we can give you that says - 1 sliip up a fortnight or a month is ok. For some it might be ok , for others it may have long term consequences.
there is a fair amount of unknown risk. As people like Gloria etc will tell you, as time goes on, the effectiveness of the meds can reduce and the bodies ability to heal vastly reduces.
if you eat a trigger food (whether it is a super sensitive trigger or just a mild trigger) or you have other triggers such as meds or stress - you are causing inflammation in your gut. as we age, and depending on other health issues, the bodies ability to fully heal from inflammed episodes reduces.
the same for the Mast Cell/histamine situation that many talk about, you are having contact with something that is causing inflammation, not just in your gut but elsewhere in the body.
the body can handle small amounts of inflammation here and there.
Big amounts of inflamation OR constant inflammation basically becomes a major toxin your body.
it can cause damage to your kidneys, your heart, joints, etc. continual inflammation in the gut (you can be inflammed and meds will mask the symptoms) will cause leaky gut which puts a huge pressure on your liver.
there are studies coming out that link toxic inflammation to depression, nervous system issues, heart issues etc etc.
there is no right way or wrong way - it all depends on you the individual. your health so far before MC, what other health issues you have now, etc.
there is no set in stone formula that we can give you that says - 1 sliip up a fortnight or a month is ok. For some it might be ok , for others it may have long term consequences.
there is a fair amount of unknown risk. As people like Gloria etc will tell you, as time goes on, the effectiveness of the meds can reduce and the bodies ability to heal vastly reduces.
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Because we're only human, we mess up occasionally. I have cheated a few times and when nothing happened, I cheated some more. Learned my lesson this past weekend and am back on the modified paleo diet that works so well. I was trying to regain weight and its hard to do that on any kind of paleo diet.
I take one budesinide every other day and that masks symptoms to a point. I cheated so much (coffee, creamer, chocolate, sugar, Easter dairy bomb) that even the budesinide couldn't help. I never, ever cheat with gluten or soy. Too big a reaction and too much danger of seriously damaging my body. I have in the past had ice cream once every 6 months with no reaction. I will be sensible again because I don't want to ever be as sick as I was last weekend.
Sheila W
I take one budesinide every other day and that masks symptoms to a point. I cheated so much (coffee, creamer, chocolate, sugar, Easter dairy bomb) that even the budesinide couldn't help. I never, ever cheat with gluten or soy. Too big a reaction and too much danger of seriously damaging my body. I have in the past had ice cream once every 6 months with no reaction. I will be sensible again because I don't want to ever be as sick as I was last weekend.
Sheila W
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My attempt at preparing oven fried chicken was somewhat successful tonight. The coating ingredients were gluten free but did contain dairy, parmesan cheese. The recipe I modified also called for crushed pork rinds and butter but used GF flour and coconut oil. Chicken wasn't very crispy, but tasty so will prepare again.
Usually can get by tearing off the skin of fried chicken (such as KFC or grocery store). This would be as a last resort. Would rather have it with the crunchy stuff!
Usually can get by tearing off the skin of fried chicken (such as KFC or grocery store). This would be as a last resort. Would rather have it with the crunchy stuff!
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Brenda,
I make chicken and other things with corn flakes crumbs (if you don't test bad for corn) You find them where all the breadcrumbs are...I like them even finer than they come, so I run them through a coffee grinder to make them finer. I add any spices I want...I use them for pork chops etc..
Monique
I make chicken and other things with corn flakes crumbs (if you don't test bad for corn) You find them where all the breadcrumbs are...I like them even finer than they come, so I run them through a coffee grinder to make them finer. I add any spices I want...I use them for pork chops etc..
Monique
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I read somewhere that corn starch works well for deep-fried foods. I bought some last week, to try as breading, but I haven't gotten around to trying it yet. Has anyone tried using just plain corn starch (with seasoning, of course)?Monique wrote:I make chicken and other things with corn flakes crumbs
Tex
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Tex,
I never tried it...I use corn starch as a thickener for sauces, soups etc..but not as coating. I'll give it a try. If it's a screw up, guess who's gonna hear about it
Monique
I never tried it...I use corn starch as a thickener for sauces, soups etc..but not as coating. I'll give it a try. If it's a screw up, guess who's gonna hear about it
Monique
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Tex,
Don't you run the chicken through an egg wash first? I don't know how that will fare with corn starch...It might make a mess...
Monique
Don't you run the chicken through an egg wash first? I don't know how that will fare with corn starch...It might make a mess...
Monique
Diagnosed 2011 with LC. Currently on Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN)
Monique, will look for corn flake crumbs on my next shopping trip. In the past I've used crushed corn chips and corn flakes. I didn't have either last night. This recipe called for a melted butter "wash". Egg or whatever wash always seems messy to me! Tex, will also try corn starch. I always have that on hand.
Brenda
All of you talking about chicken, turkey etc. Driving me NUTS! I miss chicken so much!
I have been flaring, with no idea what is doing it this time. Truth be told, I don't think I ever really, truly stopped, really healed because of my confusing C cycle.
I have been trying to stay as close to paleo as I can, though I eat oats (declared non reactive by enterolab), and sugar. Can't resist it altogether.
I have lost some weight (finally), but I don't know whether it is because of the diet, or because of the flare. I haven't been terribly hungry lately.
For a while it seemed to me that I could eat eggs in baked goods, but lately I have stopped with it in the hope that I would feel better.
Sheila - what do you mean by a modified paleo diet? What modifies it?
And Joan, what did you mean by your cryptic little comment with it's puzzling smiley. (BTW - doggy conundrum for you. Adam moved in to my one bedroom apartment with Lenny, his little dog. Remember? I asked you about him when Adam left him with me.
Well now they are both here, but Lenny continues to be terrified of me. When Adam comes in he practically cries with excitement. Me he avoids. He seems to regress.
Could he be associating me with bad things in his life?
Talk about stress in my life right now!!!)
Every time I think I am ready to go back to potatoes mashed with meat stock things settle down and I just keep going.
And, to go back to the beginning of this thread - When I was in Israel I saw how badly I reacted to foods I HAD to eat because I couldn't find anything I had been using here (my enterolab tests showed me reactive to just about everything they tested then, except oats and potatoes), and I reacted violently. I never get to feel "pretty good" enough to think I can try something new
The saga of the stolen bag is still not over (I am not back together again), so there really IS stress around.
I have been flaring, with no idea what is doing it this time. Truth be told, I don't think I ever really, truly stopped, really healed because of my confusing C cycle.
I have been trying to stay as close to paleo as I can, though I eat oats (declared non reactive by enterolab), and sugar. Can't resist it altogether.
I have lost some weight (finally), but I don't know whether it is because of the diet, or because of the flare. I haven't been terribly hungry lately.
For a while it seemed to me that I could eat eggs in baked goods, but lately I have stopped with it in the hope that I would feel better.
Sheila - what do you mean by a modified paleo diet? What modifies it?
And Joan, what did you mean by your cryptic little comment with it's puzzling smiley. (BTW - doggy conundrum for you. Adam moved in to my one bedroom apartment with Lenny, his little dog. Remember? I asked you about him when Adam left him with me.
Well now they are both here, but Lenny continues to be terrified of me. When Adam comes in he practically cries with excitement. Me he avoids. He seems to regress.
Could he be associating me with bad things in his life?
Talk about stress in my life right now!!!)
Every time I think I am ready to go back to potatoes mashed with meat stock things settle down and I just keep going.
And, to go back to the beginning of this thread - When I was in Israel I saw how badly I reacted to foods I HAD to eat because I couldn't find anything I had been using here (my enterolab tests showed me reactive to just about everything they tested then, except oats and potatoes), and I reacted violently. I never get to feel "pretty good" enough to think I can try something new
The saga of the stolen bag is still not over (I am not back together again), so there really IS stress around.
Just a reminder that the MRT (mediated release test) is available for those who have multiple sensitivities and continue to have symptoms after eliminating the "basics". Check out the MRT forum or PM Mary Beth, who is always helpful. Over 150 foods/dyes/additives are tested using a blood sample.
Without this test I never would have suspected sensitivities to carrots, white potatoes, sesame, yellow squash, celery, strawberries, cucumber, almonds, etc. Going paleo isn't enough for those of us with sensitivities to fruits, veggies, and nuts. Sigh.
Love,
Polly
Without this test I never would have suspected sensitivities to carrots, white potatoes, sesame, yellow squash, celery, strawberries, cucumber, almonds, etc. Going paleo isn't enough for those of us with sensitivities to fruits, veggies, and nuts. Sigh.
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Sorry you are still flaring, Leslie. I began the paleo diet to try to feel better and it certainly did help. However, I lost weight very quickly and I couldn't afford to lose any more weight. I modified the diet by adding back rice and homemade GF bread and homemade GF chocolate chip cookies etc. When I went off the diet I was eating a sandwich every day and consuming a lot of yellow MRT items and even a few borderline reds. Very bad and the flare is my own fault. Since being sick and going back to the modified paleo diet I've lost weight again. It is hard to get it right with this disease but we just have to keep plugging along. I hope you feel better.
When I adopted my extremely frightened and submissive wire haired dachshund, I started watching Cesar Milan, the Dog Whisperer. Your son's little dog has issues and probably not just with you. Cesar's mantra is to be calm and assertive with your dog. It works most of the time.
Sheila W
When I adopted my extremely frightened and submissive wire haired dachshund, I started watching Cesar Milan, the Dog Whisperer. Your son's little dog has issues and probably not just with you. Cesar's mantra is to be calm and assertive with your dog. It works most of the time.
Sheila W
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Lesley,
Sometimes dogs have an aversion to one gender or the other. When my daughter was 8 we had a dog who preferred women. Her father and I were divorced and when she would stay at her father's house with the dog, the dog would sleep outside her bedroom door and growl at her father if he tried to enter. The dog never treated me that way. Also my son, who was 18 at the time, tried very hard to befriend the dog but was not successful. The dog never bit anyone but she definitely preferred women to men.
Once I met my son in town at the parking lot outside my doctor's office to give him the dog to bring back to his father's house. My daughter must have been with her father at the time. My son was walking the dog back to his car when she decided she wasn't
moving any farther, sat down on the sidewalk, wouldn't budge, and managed to slip out of her collar with leash attached and run off. My son got frantic thinking he had managed to lose his sister's dog. He finally found her sitting beside my car which was still in the same parking lot. I was inside waiting for my appointment. He then tied the dog to my car, went off and got his car and transferred the dog that way. It was definitely a gender thing.
Jean
Sometimes dogs have an aversion to one gender or the other. When my daughter was 8 we had a dog who preferred women. Her father and I were divorced and when she would stay at her father's house with the dog, the dog would sleep outside her bedroom door and growl at her father if he tried to enter. The dog never treated me that way. Also my son, who was 18 at the time, tried very hard to befriend the dog but was not successful. The dog never bit anyone but she definitely preferred women to men.
Once I met my son in town at the parking lot outside my doctor's office to give him the dog to bring back to his father's house. My daughter must have been with her father at the time. My son was walking the dog back to his car when she decided she wasn't
moving any farther, sat down on the sidewalk, wouldn't budge, and managed to slip out of her collar with leash attached and run off. My son got frantic thinking he had managed to lose his sister's dog. He finally found her sitting beside my car which was still in the same parking lot. I was inside waiting for my appointment. He then tied the dog to my car, went off and got his car and transferred the dog that way. It was definitely a gender thing.
Jean
Yes,I definitely start to think I can "get away" with a little of this and a little of that. Although, I have not done that with gluten at all and when it comes to dairy, I have only tested it with a little parmesan in pesto. I guess the key to it all is not let it get to a point where you are making a habit of it.
Leah
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No, this isn't a conventional breading mix. The cornstarch should stick to the moist meat without a need for eggs. That's what makes it appealing to me — it's simple, and should be foolproof.Monique wrote:Don't you run the chicken through an egg wash first? I don't know how that will fare with corn starch...It might make a mess...
And I see that Jean uses potato starch the same way, so that's encouraging.
Yes, definitely let me know, because you'll probably try it before I get around to trying it.Monique wrote:If it's a screw up, guess who's gonna hear about it
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.