Foods with no issues Plus 1 Plus 2 Plus 3
Chicken Rice
Tuna
Oat
Corn
Pork
Walnut
Beef
White potato
Cashew
Almond
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 10 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Are there other food that could cause issues that were not test for?
Also is rice something that I will never be able to have again, or if i stay off Gluten for a year or two could I add back in rice. Most Gluten substitutes for breads, crackers, cookie mixes, pizza mixes are made with Rice atleast in my area.
Although I have MC I don’t not have d or c like most, just bloating, minor nausea and stomach cramping that comes and goes.
After Entrolab test results now what
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HI Doug,
Just to clarify-- the foods you listed above-- are those the ones you had no reaction to? Or were some of them +2 and +3?
I couldn't tell by the heading. Sorry.
Carol
Just to clarify-- the foods you listed above-- are those the ones you had no reaction to? Or were some of them +2 and +3?
I couldn't tell by the heading. Sorry.
Carol
“.... people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.” Maya Angelou
with Carol. Without the category rankings of those foods, and without knowing the overall score for those 11 antigenic foods, the list you posted means nothing. The way they are ranked in your test results is crucial for understanding the meaning of your results. We can't answer your questions unless we understand your actual results.Also, did you test for casein, soy, eggs, or anything else?
Please post more details so that we can help to interpret your results.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Sorry It did come out the way I inputted it.
Foods with no issues Chicken, Tuna, Oat, Corn, Pork, Wulnut, Beef White potato, Cashew and Almond
Plus 1 None
Plus 2 None
Plus 3 Rice Not sure if this is really a level three or they put it there because it was the only negatively food located.
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 10 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Are there other food that could cause issues that were not test for?
Also is rice something that I will never be able to have again, or if i stay off Gluten for a year or two could I add back in rice. Most Gluten substitutes for breads, crackers, cookie mixes, pizza mixes are made with Rice atleast in my area.
Thx Doug
Foods with no issues Chicken, Tuna, Oat, Corn, Pork, Wulnut, Beef White potato, Cashew and Almond
Plus 1 None
Plus 2 None
Plus 3 Rice Not sure if this is really a level three or they put it there because it was the only negatively food located.
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 10 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Are there other food that could cause issues that were not test for?
Also is rice something that I will never be able to have again, or if i stay off Gluten for a year or two could I add back in rice. Most Gluten substitutes for breads, crackers, cookie mixes, pizza mixes are made with Rice atleast in my area.
Thx Doug
Hi Doug,
You're fortunate if you showed no sensitivity to all the foods that you listed. Most of us have more food sensitivities.
Whether you will be able to eat rice again may depend on your overall score on the 11 antigenic foods test. What was that score?
If you feel that you have to buy processed foods, look for substitutes made from corn. In most parts of the country, alternatives made from corn should be available. If you like GF pasta, for example, pasta made from corn is usually much better than pasta made from rice.
Tex
You're fortunate if you showed no sensitivity to all the foods that you listed. Most of us have more food sensitivities.
Yes. Especially the ones I asked about:Doug wrote:Are there other food that could cause issues that were not test for?
Tex wrote:Also, did you test for casein, soy, eggs, or anything else?
If it was listed under +3 then you will probably have to avoid it for at least a year or so (unless the overall score on those 11 antigenic foods was less than 10).Doug wrote:Plus 3 Rice Not sure if this is really a level three or they put it there because it was the only negatively food located.
Doug wrote:Also is rice something that I will never be able to have again, or if i stay off Gluten for a year or two could I add back in rice. Most Gluten substitutes for breads, crackers, cookie mixes, pizza mixes are made with Rice atleast in my area.
Whether you will be able to eat rice again may depend on your overall score on the 11 antigenic foods test. What was that score?
If you feel that you have to buy processed foods, look for substitutes made from corn. In most parts of the country, alternatives made from corn should be available. If you like GF pasta, for example, pasta made from corn is usually much better than pasta made from rice.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Gluten/Antigenic Food Sensitivity Stool Panel
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 10 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA 5 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 6 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-soy IgA 4 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Expanded Antigenic Food Sensitivity Stool Panel
Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 5 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
If you are a nine is says that is is normal, but is there really much of a difference between a 9 and 10?
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 10 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA 5 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 6 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-soy IgA 4 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Expanded Antigenic Food Sensitivity Stool Panel
Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 5 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
If you are a nine is says that is is normal, but is there really much of a difference between a 9 and 10?
Numerically, no (only 1 digit). Statistically, yes (the difference between a negative result and a positive result).Doug wrote:If you are a nine is says that is is normal, but is there really much of a difference between a 9 and 10?
If your overall score on the 11 Antigenic Foods test was 5, then rice is very likely to be a minor problem for you. If I were in your shoes I would avoid rice for a few months, and then test it, to see if I reacted. IMO, rice is not likely to be a long-term problem, based on your test score.
If you don't trust the gluten test result, totally avoid gluten for about a month, and then test it by eating a sandwich, or a piece of cake, or pasta, or something else loaded with gluten. You should be able to see some symptoms if you are sensitive to it.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Its strange for me as I can eat gluten for a few days, and have no problem, then other times I have stomach cramps for 15 to 20 hours straight, no diarrhea, but some nausea, sometimes I get cold and other times I am very hot and always have trouble sleeping. Although was I was diagnosed as having MC, my symptoms are very different from everyone else on here as I have only had diarrhea three like 3 times in a year.
On one hand I do feel fortunately compared to most as my symptoms are less severe, but at least everyone here knows what’s wrong with them (95% certainly). After reading your book and see hundreds of posts on here I sometimes wonder what is wrong with me. Is it possible to have a fringe case of MC, but when things act up it is pretty severe, stomach wise.
On one hand I do feel fortunately compared to most as my symptoms are less severe, but at least everyone here knows what’s wrong with them (95% certainly). After reading your book and see hundreds of posts on here I sometimes wonder what is wrong with me. Is it possible to have a fringe case of MC, but when things act up it is pretty severe, stomach wise.
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Doug
whether you refer to it as Fringe MC, or IBS, or you can call it Fred if you want.
your body is reacting to triggers, (the symptoms)
over time these reactions, (ongoing inflammation) cause damage to your gut. As we age, the ability for our body to heal will be limited.
the symptoms are interrupting good quality digestion process, which will affect the ability to absorb nutrients etc
The symptoms may be different to others, the underlying cause is the exact same.
there are quite a few on this forum where C is the main symptom not D
3.5 years post Dx, I know that I can eat gluten, dairy and even a small amount of soy and not have an instant reaction. more importantly i know if I keep eating those ingredients then the inflammation will increase. I am not willing to risk the damage. it is damage that may not be able to healed.
The wellness of our whole body from this point forward is reliant on good quality digestion process.
whether you refer to it as Fringe MC, or IBS, or you can call it Fred if you want.
your body is reacting to triggers, (the symptoms)
over time these reactions, (ongoing inflammation) cause damage to your gut. As we age, the ability for our body to heal will be limited.
the symptoms are interrupting good quality digestion process, which will affect the ability to absorb nutrients etc
The symptoms may be different to others, the underlying cause is the exact same.
there are quite a few on this forum where C is the main symptom not D
3.5 years post Dx, I know that I can eat gluten, dairy and even a small amount of soy and not have an instant reaction. more importantly i know if I keep eating those ingredients then the inflammation will increase. I am not willing to risk the damage. it is damage that may not be able to healed.
The wellness of our whole body from this point forward is reliant on good quality digestion process.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
For many of us, our symptoms might seem very similar, while for others they are very different. But as Gabes points out — regardless of the symptoms, the treatment is the same, namely, avoid the foods that cause us to generate inflammation. If we don't avoid those foods, not only do we continue to damage our gut, but we continue to develop additional autoimmune diseases as time goes on.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Doug,
I had sporadic symptoms starting 10 years ago, similar to your's, diarrhea several times a year. Then the last 5 years I have had very persistent symptoms with diarrhea, gurgling and bloating. It was not until I found this forum, 2 months ago and made diet changes, that I have been able to reduce the MC symptoms. So for me the disease process started slow and then became constant. I was only diagnosed 1 1/2 years ago, wish I had made diet changes in the early phase of the disease. I have never had an obvious reaction to gluten, but my Entrolab results indicated that I was sensitive so I have eliminated that and other foods from my diet and have had decent results.
Why not make diet changes and see if you can get the diarrhea down to zero times a year?
I had sporadic symptoms starting 10 years ago, similar to your's, diarrhea several times a year. Then the last 5 years I have had very persistent symptoms with diarrhea, gurgling and bloating. It was not until I found this forum, 2 months ago and made diet changes, that I have been able to reduce the MC symptoms. So for me the disease process started slow and then became constant. I was only diagnosed 1 1/2 years ago, wish I had made diet changes in the early phase of the disease. I have never had an obvious reaction to gluten, but my Entrolab results indicated that I was sensitive so I have eliminated that and other foods from my diet and have had decent results.
Why not make diet changes and see if you can get the diarrhea down to zero times a year?
Donna
Diagnosed with CC August 2011
Diagnosed with CC August 2011
Thank you for all of your posted. I gave up gluten (95%) on Jan 6th (will be 100% from here), due to a really bad stomach episode, but never gave up the rice, and continued to have some smaller yet still annoying stomach issues. Sometimes the fear of stomach issues in the evening has caused stress and certainly has caused some sleeping issues. I have decided to give up rice now (from ceareals and gluten free breads), and will fill in the blanks with other foods.
Is there any other foods that might cause issues that maybe I wasn’t tested for? and can Entrolab actually tell you are safe with a food type when and you are actually not.
Doug
Is there any other foods that might cause issues that maybe I wasn’t tested for? and can Entrolab actually tell you are safe with a food type when and you are actually not.
Doug