Arthritis
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Arthritis
I have been GF since the first of January, no diet cokes since the end of January and no fresh fruits or vegetables since the first of March. I have been normal everyday but one since the first of March. Had some tomatoes in an omelet on a trip by mistake and caused problems that evening.
BUT, arthritis seems to be getting worse in my little finger with a large nodule, my back and my right thumb. I am concerned that it may be my diet even though GF. I eat beef, chicken, turkey, ham, white potatoes, red potatoes, sweet potatoes, canned green beans and asparagus, oatmeal, GF bread, bananas, drink goat milk, the occasional ice cream, several Glutino gluten free cookies and Glutino gluten free pretzels. That is about it. I wonder if some of this could be causing this flareup with the arthritis. I started Schiff's Move Free Ulta yesterday.
The only intolerance I had on Enterolab tests was gluten at 33 units. Everything else was okay. Maybe someone had a suggestion for me.
Thanks so much to this forum. It has been a lifesaver.
Vandolyn
BUT, arthritis seems to be getting worse in my little finger with a large nodule, my back and my right thumb. I am concerned that it may be my diet even though GF. I eat beef, chicken, turkey, ham, white potatoes, red potatoes, sweet potatoes, canned green beans and asparagus, oatmeal, GF bread, bananas, drink goat milk, the occasional ice cream, several Glutino gluten free cookies and Glutino gluten free pretzels. That is about it. I wonder if some of this could be causing this flareup with the arthritis. I started Schiff's Move Free Ulta yesterday.
The only intolerance I had on Enterolab tests was gluten at 33 units. Everything else was okay. Maybe someone had a suggestion for me.
Thanks so much to this forum. It has been a lifesaver.
Vandolyn
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Hi Vandolyn,
Sorry about your painful arthritis. I know how you feel. I took Celebrex for a number of years and it was a wonder drug. Eventually I had to give it up because of gastritis. My arthritis started flaring; nodes on my fingers, stiff spine, toe cramps etc. I started a modified paleo diet which eliminates all nightshade veggies. Nightshades have been implicated in causing a worsening of arthritis. I was surprised to find my arthritis symptoms slowly receded after I started the modified Paleo diet. The diet doesn't work as well as Celebrex, but it does help.
Hope you find something that helps.
Sheila W
Sorry about your painful arthritis. I know how you feel. I took Celebrex for a number of years and it was a wonder drug. Eventually I had to give it up because of gastritis. My arthritis started flaring; nodes on my fingers, stiff spine, toe cramps etc. I started a modified paleo diet which eliminates all nightshade veggies. Nightshades have been implicated in causing a worsening of arthritis. I was surprised to find my arthritis symptoms slowly receded after I started the modified Paleo diet. The diet doesn't work as well as Celebrex, but it does help.
Hope you find something that helps.
Sheila W
To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did.
A person who never made a mistake never tried something new. Einstein
A person who never made a mistake never tried something new. Einstein
Hi Vandolyn,
I see 3 possible candidates in your current diet. I agree with Sheila. Dairy and nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, tobacco, etc.) are known to cause arthritis issues. Since your EnteroLab test for casein was negative, I wonder if you might be sensitive to one of the other proteins in milk (such as whey protein, for example, and there are others). Sweet potatoes are not nightshades, but you might try avoiding the other types of potatoes, to see if they are contributing to the problem.
But the biggest risk IMO, is the oatmeal. While many so-called "celiac experts" claim that oats certified to be wheat-free are safe for most celiacs, I dispute that claim, and there is a lot of evidence to substantiate my position. Many of us on this board are sensitive to avenin, the primary protein in oats. Avenin is the glutinous equivalent of wheat gluten. Avenin is very insiduous, because it usually takes longer to develop a sensitivity to it, due to the fact that it's a less potent protein, when compared with wheat gluten. But for those of us who are sensitive to it, it is just as big a problem as wheat gluten, for all practical purposes. Many of the members of this board (including me) are sensitive to oats (not just oats contaminated with wheat, but pure oats as well).
Most of the research trials cited by "celiac experts" as validation for their claim that oats are safe for celiacs, were not continued long enough to actually verify their conclusions (IMO), because of the simple fact that (as I pointed out) it takes longer to develop a sensitivity to oats, and it takes longer for the damage to the intestines to reach the critical point where a reaction is triggered, because avenin is a weaker protein, and it is available at a lower percentage in oats, than the percentage of gluten in wheat.
Anyway, those are the items that I would consider if I were in your situation.
Thank you for the kind words — you are very welcome.
Tex
I see 3 possible candidates in your current diet. I agree with Sheila. Dairy and nightshades (potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, tobacco, etc.) are known to cause arthritis issues. Since your EnteroLab test for casein was negative, I wonder if you might be sensitive to one of the other proteins in milk (such as whey protein, for example, and there are others). Sweet potatoes are not nightshades, but you might try avoiding the other types of potatoes, to see if they are contributing to the problem.
But the biggest risk IMO, is the oatmeal. While many so-called "celiac experts" claim that oats certified to be wheat-free are safe for most celiacs, I dispute that claim, and there is a lot of evidence to substantiate my position. Many of us on this board are sensitive to avenin, the primary protein in oats. Avenin is the glutinous equivalent of wheat gluten. Avenin is very insiduous, because it usually takes longer to develop a sensitivity to it, due to the fact that it's a less potent protein, when compared with wheat gluten. But for those of us who are sensitive to it, it is just as big a problem as wheat gluten, for all practical purposes. Many of the members of this board (including me) are sensitive to oats (not just oats contaminated with wheat, but pure oats as well).
Most of the research trials cited by "celiac experts" as validation for their claim that oats are safe for celiacs, were not continued long enough to actually verify their conclusions (IMO), because of the simple fact that (as I pointed out) it takes longer to develop a sensitivity to oats, and it takes longer for the damage to the intestines to reach the critical point where a reaction is triggered, because avenin is a weaker protein, and it is available at a lower percentage in oats, than the percentage of gluten in wheat.
Anyway, those are the items that I would consider if I were in your situation.
Thank you for the kind words — you are very welcome.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thank you Sheila and Tex. I eliminated oats in March and then started them again about two weeks ago. I will eliminate them again and see what happens - then next the dairy if not improvement. Will also eliminate the nightshades.
Tex, I ordered two of your books last night - one for my GI doctor and one for my internist. Hope they can read!
Thanks for your help.
Vandolyn
Tex, I ordered two of your books last night - one for my GI doctor and one for my internist. Hope they can read!
Thanks for your help.
Vandolyn
Vandolyn,
Thank you for trying to bring your doctors up to speed on this disease. I truly hope that they will be receptive.
Tex
Thank you for trying to bring your doctors up to speed on this disease. I truly hope that they will be receptive.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.