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Laboratory Report
Date: 6/14/2013
Egg Sensitivity Stool Test
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 51 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Yeast Sensitivity Stool Test
Fecal Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA 17 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Expanded Antigenic Food Sensitivity Stool Panel
Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 19 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
While all of the foods tested can be immune-stimulating, the hierarchy of reactions detected were as follows:
Food to which there was no significant immunological reactivity:
Food to which there was some immunological reactivity (1+):
Food to which there was moderate immunological reactivity (2+):
Food to which there was significant and/or the most immunological reactivity (3+):
Pork 0
White potato +1
Walnut
Tuna +2
Oat
Beef
Cashew
Almond +3
Corn
Rice
Chicken
Within each class of foods to which you displayed multiple reactions, the hierarchy of those reactions detected were as follows:
Grains:
Grain toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Corn
Grain toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Rice
Grain toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Oat
Meats:
Meat toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Chicken
Meat toward which you were next most immunologically reactive: Tuna
Meat toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Beef
Nuts:
Nut toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Almond
Nut toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Cashew
Nut toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Walnut
Nightshades:
You displayed immunologic reactivity to white potato, the member of the nightshade family usually consumed most often and in greatest quantities. While this does not necessarily mean you would react to all other nightshade foods (tomatoes, peppers, eggplant), it is possible. In the realm of elimination diets for immunologic disorders, nightshades are usually eliminated as the entire food class (i.e., all four previously mentioned foods in this class). This is especially important to the clinical setting of arthritis.
TEST INTERPRETATION(S):
Interpretation of Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA: Levels of fecal IgA antibody to food antigens greater than or equal to 10 Units are indicative of an immune reaction, and hence immunologic “sensitivity” to that food. It is recommended that for any elevated fecal antibody level to a highly antigenic food such as egg, that it be removed from your diet.
Interpretation of Fecal Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA: The level of intestinal Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae IgA antibody was elevated indicative of immunologic sensitivity to dietary yeast. Because this immunologic reaction is the most specific one identified for the diagnosis of Crohns disease, this latter diagnosis should be considered if you possess any of the following symptoms chronically: moderate to severe abdominal pain; blood, mucus, or pus in stools; diarrhea; partial or complete intestinal obstruction at any time; and/or signs of ongoing chronic systemic inflammation such as fever, weight loss, arthritis, or fatigue. However, this stool test alone can neither diagnose nor rule out Crohn’s disease. Further gastroenterological and/or serological testing is warranted if clinically indicated, so please contact your health care practitioner.
It is also recommended that in the presence of any of the aforementioned symptoms, a fecal lactoferrin test be ordered to assess for active colonic inflammation, possibly supporting a diagnosis of Crohn’s disease. Although there are no formal studies showing the benefit of limiting dietary yeast consumption in the prevention or treatment of Crohn’s disease, it makes intuitive sense that avoiding foods and beverages with added Saccharomyces cerevisiae yeast (i.e., foods/beverages made with baker’s or brewer’s yeast) and avoiding foods with high concentrations of this yeast naturally (like wine) could be of benefit in this clinical scenario.
Interpretation of Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods: With respect to the mean value of the 11 foods tested, overall, there was only a modest amount of immunological reactivity detected to these antigenic foods in terms of fecal IgA production.
Many foods besides gluten, milk, egg, and soy are antigenic in their own right; the main classes of which include other grains, meats, nuts, and nightshades (potatoes being the primary food eaten from this latter class). Minimizing exposure to antigenic foods is an important component of an anti-inflammatory lifestyle to optimize immune system health. This is especially important for those with chronic abdominal symptoms and/or chronic immune/autoimmune syndromes, or for those who want to prevent them.
For immunologic food sensitivity testing, the actual numeric value (in Units) for any given food or for the overall average of a group of foods is important mainly for determining: 1) if the immune reaction is present or absent, and 2) the immune reaction in relative terms to different foods tested in a given individual at a given point in time. It is not a score, per se, to be interpreted as a measure of clinical or immunological severity for that individual or between individuals. This is because the amount of IgA antibody made by a given person is particular for the immune function of that person. Furthermore, sometimes a person can display what can be viewed as immunological and nutritional “exhaustion,” whereby a more significant and symptomatic immunologic food sensitivity is accompanied by a lower positive measured anti-food antibody value (rather than a higher positive). In such an instance, following clinical improvement and improved nutritional status (while the suspect antigenic foods are withdrawn), values can actually be higher for a time before finally falling into the negative range after several years.
Thus, the overall average food sensitivity antibody value for this panel is an assessment of your overall humoral immunologic food reactivity, which can help determine if dietary elimination trials may help you. If the mean value is less than 10 Units, the humoral immune reactions can be considered clinically insignificant (negative); if greater than or equal to 10 Units, they can be considered clinically significant (positive). Rather than reporting the absolute value of a positive result for each individual food, since it cannot be considered as an assessment of severity, the results are reported in semi-quantitative terms between the foods tested (1+, 2+, or 3+). This provides you with the knowledge of which foods are stimulating the most immune response which, in turn, is indeed the most practically applied information to dietary elimination trials.
Dietary Recommendation Based on Test Results to Individual Foods:
This test panel was designed to guide your choices when building a new more healthful, less antigenic dietary plan. The results are delivered in such a way that you are not left with “nothing to eat,” but instead they should guide you in avoiding the foods to which the highest or most immunologic reaction was detected (and hence, are most stimulating to your immune system). We discourage dietary changes that involve removing too many foods at once. This can lead you to feel too hungry too often, especially if adequate healthful replacement foods are not readily available. Dietary elimination (beyond gluten-free, dairy-free, and soy-free) is best approached over a period of weeks to months and sometimes years, removing one or two additional foods at a time, rather than removing many foods at once.
If you reacted to more than one of the grains, meats, or nuts, we recommend that you first eliminate from your diet the one food from that class you reacted to most strongly, while keeping in your diet the ones you reacted to less strongly. When you want to try and eliminate additional foods, do so in the order of the strength of reaction from highest, intermediate, to least. In the case of potato, you may want to eliminate it if you reacted positively to it.
If you have an autoimmune or chronic inflammatory syndrome, or just want to pursue an optimally healthy diet and lifestyle, avoiding all grains, meats, and nightshades can optimize an anti-inflammatory diet (despite a negative result on food testing). As nuts and seeds are a very healthful source of vegetarian protein and heart-protective oils and minerals, rather than avoiding all nuts and seeds, you can render nuts and seeds less antigenic, more digestible, and more easily tolerated by choosing the few that you seem to best tolerate overall, soaking a one-day supply in a glass jar filled with clean water for 4-8 hours (or for ease, overnight), and pouring off the water and rinsing before eating. The resultant soaked nuts or seeds can be eaten as is (alone or with fresh or dried fruit), blended into nut butters (by adding some water), or added to “smoothies.”
Date: 6/14/2013
Egg Sensitivity Stool Test
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 51 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Yeast Sensitivity Stool Test
Fecal Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA 17 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Expanded Antigenic Food Sensitivity Stool Panel
Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 19 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
While all of the foods tested can be immune-stimulating, the hierarchy of reactions detected were as follows:
Food to which there was no significant immunological reactivity:
Food to which there was some immunological reactivity (1+):
Food to which there was moderate immunological reactivity (2+):
Food to which there was significant and/or the most immunological reactivity (3+):
Pork 0
White potato +1
Walnut
Tuna +2
Oat
Beef
Cashew
Almond +3
Corn
Rice
Chicken
Within each class of foods to which you displayed multiple reactions, the hierarchy of those reactions detected were as follows:
Grains:
Grain toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Corn
Grain toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Rice
Grain toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Oat
Meats:
Meat toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Chicken
Meat toward which you were next most immunologically reactive: Tuna
Meat toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Beef
Nuts:
Nut toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Almond
Nut toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Cashew
Nut toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Walnut
Nightshades:
You displayed immunologic reactivity to white potato, the member of the nightshade family usually consumed most often and in greatest quantities. While this does not necessarily mean you would react to all other nightshade foods (tomatoes, peppers, eggplant), it is possible. In the realm of elimination diets for immunologic disorders, nightshades are usually eliminated as the entire food class (i.e., all four previously mentioned foods in this class). This is especially important to the clinical setting of arthritis.
TEST INTERPRETATION(S):
Interpretation of Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA: Levels of fecal IgA antibody to food antigens greater than or equal to 10 Units are indicative of an immune reaction, and hence immunologic “sensitivity” to that food. It is recommended that for any elevated fecal antibody level to a highly antigenic food such as egg, that it be removed from your diet.
Interpretation of Fecal Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA: The level of intestinal Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae IgA antibody was elevated indicative of immunologic sensitivity to dietary yeast. Because this immunologic reaction is the most specific one identified for the diagnosis of Crohns disease, this latter diagnosis should be considered if you possess any of the following symptoms chronically: moderate to severe abdominal pain; blood, mucus, or pus in stools; diarrhea; partial or complete intestinal obstruction at any time; and/or signs of ongoing chronic systemic inflammation such as fever, weight loss, arthritis, or fatigue. However, this stool test alone can neither diagnose nor rule out Crohn’s disease. Further gastroenterological and/or serological testing is warranted if clinically indicated, so please contact your health care practitioner.
It is also recommended that in the presence of any of the aforementioned symptoms, a fecal lactoferrin test be ordered to assess for active colonic inflammation, possibly supporting a diagnosis of Crohn’s disease. Although there are no formal studies showing the benefit of limiting dietary yeast consumption in the prevention or treatment of Crohn’s disease, it makes intuitive sense that avoiding foods and beverages with added Saccharomyces cerevisiae yeast (i.e., foods/beverages made with baker’s or brewer’s yeast) and avoiding foods with high concentrations of this yeast naturally (like wine) could be of benefit in this clinical scenario.
Interpretation of Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods: With respect to the mean value of the 11 foods tested, overall, there was only a modest amount of immunological reactivity detected to these antigenic foods in terms of fecal IgA production.
Many foods besides gluten, milk, egg, and soy are antigenic in their own right; the main classes of which include other grains, meats, nuts, and nightshades (potatoes being the primary food eaten from this latter class). Minimizing exposure to antigenic foods is an important component of an anti-inflammatory lifestyle to optimize immune system health. This is especially important for those with chronic abdominal symptoms and/or chronic immune/autoimmune syndromes, or for those who want to prevent them.
For immunologic food sensitivity testing, the actual numeric value (in Units) for any given food or for the overall average of a group of foods is important mainly for determining: 1) if the immune reaction is present or absent, and 2) the immune reaction in relative terms to different foods tested in a given individual at a given point in time. It is not a score, per se, to be interpreted as a measure of clinical or immunological severity for that individual or between individuals. This is because the amount of IgA antibody made by a given person is particular for the immune function of that person. Furthermore, sometimes a person can display what can be viewed as immunological and nutritional “exhaustion,” whereby a more significant and symptomatic immunologic food sensitivity is accompanied by a lower positive measured anti-food antibody value (rather than a higher positive). In such an instance, following clinical improvement and improved nutritional status (while the suspect antigenic foods are withdrawn), values can actually be higher for a time before finally falling into the negative range after several years.
Thus, the overall average food sensitivity antibody value for this panel is an assessment of your overall humoral immunologic food reactivity, which can help determine if dietary elimination trials may help you. If the mean value is less than 10 Units, the humoral immune reactions can be considered clinically insignificant (negative); if greater than or equal to 10 Units, they can be considered clinically significant (positive). Rather than reporting the absolute value of a positive result for each individual food, since it cannot be considered as an assessment of severity, the results are reported in semi-quantitative terms between the foods tested (1+, 2+, or 3+). This provides you with the knowledge of which foods are stimulating the most immune response which, in turn, is indeed the most practically applied information to dietary elimination trials.
Dietary Recommendation Based on Test Results to Individual Foods:
This test panel was designed to guide your choices when building a new more healthful, less antigenic dietary plan. The results are delivered in such a way that you are not left with “nothing to eat,” but instead they should guide you in avoiding the foods to which the highest or most immunologic reaction was detected (and hence, are most stimulating to your immune system). We discourage dietary changes that involve removing too many foods at once. This can lead you to feel too hungry too often, especially if adequate healthful replacement foods are not readily available. Dietary elimination (beyond gluten-free, dairy-free, and soy-free) is best approached over a period of weeks to months and sometimes years, removing one or two additional foods at a time, rather than removing many foods at once.
If you reacted to more than one of the grains, meats, or nuts, we recommend that you first eliminate from your diet the one food from that class you reacted to most strongly, while keeping in your diet the ones you reacted to less strongly. When you want to try and eliminate additional foods, do so in the order of the strength of reaction from highest, intermediate, to least. In the case of potato, you may want to eliminate it if you reacted positively to it.
If you have an autoimmune or chronic inflammatory syndrome, or just want to pursue an optimally healthy diet and lifestyle, avoiding all grains, meats, and nightshades can optimize an anti-inflammatory diet (despite a negative result on food testing). As nuts and seeds are a very healthful source of vegetarian protein and heart-protective oils and minerals, rather than avoiding all nuts and seeds, you can render nuts and seeds less antigenic, more digestible, and more easily tolerated by choosing the few that you seem to best tolerate overall, soaking a one-day supply in a glass jar filled with clean water for 4-8 hours (or for ease, overnight), and pouring off the water and rinsing before eating. The resultant soaked nuts or seeds can be eaten as is (alone or with fresh or dried fruit), blended into nut butters (by adding some water), or added to “smoothies.”
DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor and don't play one on TV.
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
Well, at least pork is clear, and potatoes and walnut are not a serious problem. Eggs look to be pretty rough, though, along with almonds, corn, rice and chicken. That suggests that you may react to all grains.
Do you mind if I add your results to our list?
Tex
Do you mind if I add your results to our list?
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Wow, Joan, this is harsh. We've had our own convo on FB tonite, but I just want to say that I'm the "bacteria as a cause" person here. it makes no sense that people are allergic to nearly every single food item. Lots of us were allergic to things before we went GF that we're not allergic to now.
Joan's body is reacting to a lot of things, is the underlying cause MAP? I continue to believe that MAP is what causes multiple food intolerances that are secondary to gluten, which I also believe is #1. Been a bad participant here, much going on in my own life. sorry, love you all.
Joan's body is reacting to a lot of things, is the underlying cause MAP? I continue to believe that MAP is what causes multiple food intolerances that are secondary to gluten, which I also believe is #1. Been a bad participant here, much going on in my own life. sorry, love you all.
Resolved MC symptoms successfully w/L-Glutamine, Probiotics and Vitamins, GF since 8/'09. DX w/MC 10/'09.
Joan,
Thanks, I've added the new results to your previous test results.
I couldn't help but notice a rather disturbing trend, though. Your previous results for eggs and yeast were:
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA: 9 Units
Fecal Anti-saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA: 8 Units
And your new results are:
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 51 Units
Fecal Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA 17 Units
Bummer!
I'm beginning to wonder if I should retest soy, eggs, and yeast. My previous results were normal, but that was 8 years ago.
Tex
Thanks, I've added the new results to your previous test results.
I couldn't help but notice a rather disturbing trend, though. Your previous results for eggs and yeast were:
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA: 9 Units
Fecal Anti-saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA: 8 Units
And your new results are:
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 51 Units
Fecal Anti-Saccharomyces cerevisiae (dietary yeast) IgA 17 Units
Bummer!
I'm beginning to wonder if I should retest soy, eggs, and yeast. My previous results were normal, but that was 8 years ago.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Connie et al!
Wondering if anyone can tell me what the acronym MAP stands for. I'm thinking "Multiple Antibiotic P?" or "Multiple Antibodoies P?". Or maybe I'm totally off track. lol If I Google, I get Mapquest, etc.
Having a pity party tonight, sorry, but been a 'potty person' all week and it's now on my last nerve. Been GF for 3 weeks and I think I should be MUCH improved, but I'm not. Any thoughts? Still waiting on Enterolab but I was only able to afford one test, Gluten. Also taking Pepto, 8 tabs/day.
Thanks for listening,
Shar
xoxox
Wondering if anyone can tell me what the acronym MAP stands for. I'm thinking "Multiple Antibiotic P?" or "Multiple Antibodoies P?". Or maybe I'm totally off track. lol If I Google, I get Mapquest, etc.
Having a pity party tonight, sorry, but been a 'potty person' all week and it's now on my last nerve. Been GF for 3 weeks and I think I should be MUCH improved, but I'm not. Any thoughts? Still waiting on Enterolab but I was only able to afford one test, Gluten. Also taking Pepto, 8 tabs/day.
Thanks for listening,
Shar
xoxox
Mycobacterium Avium subspecies Paratuberculosis. Have written a lot about it here if you want to do a search through my writings, Shar. Hang in there, it took me a good 6 months being GF before the D stopped.
Connie
Connie
Resolved MC symptoms successfully w/L-Glutamine, Probiotics and Vitamins, GF since 8/'09. DX w/MC 10/'09.
Joan,
That's a pretty limited list. You could try pork, lamb and turkey like me. The only one you know for sure is OK is pork, though. Eliminating corn and rice is going to be hard. As Tex mentioned, if you're intolerant to those two, you're probably intolerant to all grains. And you can't use almond flour, either. Maybe you could try chestnut flour?
Sorry that you didn't get good news.
Gloria
That's a pretty limited list. You could try pork, lamb and turkey like me. The only one you know for sure is OK is pork, though. Eliminating corn and rice is going to be hard. As Tex mentioned, if you're intolerant to those two, you're probably intolerant to all grains. And you can't use almond flour, either. Maybe you could try chestnut flour?
Sorry that you didn't get good news.
Gloria
You never know what you can do until you have to do it.
Shar: Start here: http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... er&start=0
Resolved MC symptoms successfully w/L-Glutamine, Probiotics and Vitamins, GF since 8/'09. DX w/MC 10/'09.
Ahaaaaaa, and me a Microbiologist before Nursing. lol Thank you, Connie!! Would LOVE to do a search thru your writings. Please point the way....! Right before my last post, my husband and I had been discussing other possible causes for MC because a lot of this doesn't add up for me. In fact, we were discussing 'well water' as I had always been a city girl prior to moving to MS, and wondering if there's something in it I'm not tolerating. Maybe I miss the fluoride and chlorine...!?
And also, thanks for the encouragement. I'll keep on keeping on, for sure. I'm actually enjoying the GF diet.
BTW, I should have said earlier I was diagnosed with CC on 5/1/13, so a real newbie, and prescribed Entocort which I didn't tolerate well. Just starting my 6th week of Pepto.
Anyway, off to research MAP!
Shar
And also, thanks for the encouragement. I'll keep on keeping on, for sure. I'm actually enjoying the GF diet.
BTW, I should have said earlier I was diagnosed with CC on 5/1/13, so a real newbie, and prescribed Entocort which I didn't tolerate well. Just starting my 6th week of Pepto.
Anyway, off to research MAP!
Shar
Lamb was OK per MRT, Gloria. I just happened to have made a turkey breast yesterday.
I never have liked fish except for DH's catfish but I guess I'll have to eat it. Oh, I will find a link to an article from Susan Thixton, the Truth About Pet Food author, about fish. SCARY!
Here it is: http://truthaboutpetfood2.com/something-very-fishy
I'm going to be so limited that I'm afraid that I'll start reacting to whatever I can eat.
What can I eat for breakfast, that is the question?
I never have liked fish except for DH's catfish but I guess I'll have to eat it. Oh, I will find a link to an article from Susan Thixton, the Truth About Pet Food author, about fish. SCARY!
Here it is: http://truthaboutpetfood2.com/something-very-fishy
I'm going to be so limited that I'm afraid that I'll start reacting to whatever I can eat.
What can I eat for breakfast, that is the question?
DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor and don't play one on TV.
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
Back when I was recovering, and I was avoiding eggs and corn, for a while I ate nuked left-over deep-fried catfish filets. It hit the spot for me.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.