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This is so depressing. It seems farmers are more worried about current profits than caring for their own land. Rather than rotate crops to rid their fields of corn rootworm, they are now resorting to more and more pesticides, and many don't work. It seems the rootworms have out-smarted the GMO corn in parts of the country, so pesticide sales are way up, as well as sales of different varieties of GMO corn.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/0 ... -corn-belt
Steiner, the Nebraska crop consultant, usually argues for another strategy: Starve the rootworms, he tells his clients. Just switch that field to another crop. "One rotation can do a lot of good," he says. "Go to beans, wheat, oats. It's the No. 1 right thing to do."

Insect experts say it's also likely to work better in the long run.

Meinke, who's been studying the corn rootworm for decades, tells farmers that if they plant just corn, year after year, rootworms are likely to overwhelm any weapon someday.

The problem, Meinke says, is that farmers are thinking about the money they can make today. "I think economics are driving everything," he says. "Corn prices have been so high the last three years, everybody is trying to protect every kernel. People are just really going for it right now, to be as profitable as they can."
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Zizzle,

It's not a GMO issue. That advice about rotation may still work in the Western Corn Belt (but I suspect that it's days may be limited), because rotation no longer works down here in Texas (where we have to deal with the Mexican corn rootworm). And the Mexican corn rootworm is surely headed their way.

Unlike in the cornbelt, down here in Central Texas we have traditionally rotated corn crops with sorghum and wheat, but rotation is no longer effective for rootworm control, because the root worms have adapted, and they are now very capable of surviving on virtually any crop that is planted to that land. Where I live, you can't even grow a decent garden any more, because the Mexican rootworms will prune the root system of just about any vegetables that we plant there. Okra is an exception — they don't seem to significantly affect okra, but as far as I'm concerned, they could have the okra. I don't believe I could force myself to eat okra if I were starving. And besides, if okra doesn't even appeal to Mexican rootworms, why on earth would I want to eat it? LOL.

Anyway, the point is, the Mexican rootworm had already begun this adaptation process long before GMO corn was planted in this area, so we can't blame it on that.

And regarding your statement, "It seems farmers are more worried about current profits than caring for their own land.", that's easy for you to say, because you don't have to either fight the rootworms or stand idly by and watch them bankrupt you. Rootworms are not a trivial pest. They'll put you out of business in a hurry. And unemployment compensation does not exist when you go bust farming — you're just broke, and out of luck.

Also, the issue of "caring for their land" does not support your position, because if farmers truly care for their land, they will do whatever is necessary to get rid of the rootworms, because the damage caused by uncontrolled rootworms leads to soil erosion and decreased soil quality (because by damaging the crop, they significantly reduce the tilth of the soil).

The biggest problem with most "insect experts" is that they make their living offering advice, rather than actually having to make a living producing crops. It's an unfortunate fact that most crop consultants either went broke farming, or couldn't afford to get into the business of farming, and so they are wannabe farmers.

This sort of reminds me of doctors giving dietary advice to MC patients — they have good intentions, and their advice sounds good to anyone who doesn't actually have MC, and/or doesn't recognize the dietary connection, but as we are well aware, such advice by "armchair experts" often doesn't work in the real world.

I wonder if those guys are even aware that rotation no longer works for rootworm control down here in Texas. If they were, they probably wouldn't sound so cocky when offering rotation advice.

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Wow, Tex, this rootworm problem sounds devastating to modern agriculture. Why is this happening now? Why are they taking hold like never before? Can anything be done besides blasting progressively more toxic pesticides into the soil?
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I'm not sure of the exact timing, but I believe that the Mexican rootworms didn't cross the border until sometime in the 1980's. And like a lot of "non-native" pests, they have few natural enemies here, so they tend to outcompete the native species (the eastern and western corn rootworms). They haven't arrived in the cornbelt yet, to my knowledge. Hopefully, they will never make it that far, but if they do, they will be a formidable issue.

Currently, the corn seed that comes with resistance (IOW GMO seed) works satisfactorily here (in combination with rotation), so that no pesticides are needed. Interestingly, rootworm populations are very high, but they don't seem to cause any noticeable problems for the corn — it thrives in spite of them. Rotation still helps to reduce the populations somewhat, it just doesn't reduce them enough (the way it did 20 years ago, for example), to allow the use of conventional (non GMO) corn without the use of pesticides. Researchers need to be working on trying to locate (or create) a natural predator or parasite (or disease) to control them, because as you point out, the clock is ticking.

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I guess humans and drugs aren't the only thing crossing the border illegally! :lol: :lol:

My parents have never mentioned rootworms affecting our farm in Guatemala. Their pests seem rather tame. Maybe they don't like coffee plants.
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Zizzle wrote:Maybe they don't like coffee plants.
That's very likely true. Of course they may not range that far south, for all I know. And I'm pretty sure that if no corn is planted in an area, then those rootworms should never be a problem, because surely they gravitate to corn first. They apparently learned to survive on the roots of other plants simply so that they could defeat the rotation trick that always worked so well previously. :roll:

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It seems Cornworms have ventured south into Brazil. They are killing off cotton, soy, corn and other crops. It seems GMO corn may be the culprit, because BT corn kills another caterpillar that is a predator of Cornworm, but only kills 10% of cornworms. Then there are pesticides that kill other predators. Clearing forests for crops also reduces habitats for other worm predators.

http://gmwatch.org/index.php?option=com ... ther-crops
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Oh well, look at the bright side — corn and soy are bad for us anyway. :lol: I'd sure hate to see 100% cotton clothes priced out of reach, though. That would be a real bummer, 'cause I love cotton clothes.

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I love cotton too.

I didn't realize how much damage glyphosphate (Round-up), and all our GMO crops are causing in Argentina!
Miscarriages, fertility problems and abnormal fetal development are all problems that are skyrocketing in Argentina, where many are exposed to massive spraying of herbicides. More than 18 million hectares in Argentina are covered by genetically engineered soy, on which more than 300 million liters of pesticides are sprayed. In the village of Malvinas Argentinas, which is surrounded by soy plantations, the rate of miscarriage is 100 times the national average, courtesy of glyphosate.
And more from your girl, Dr. Seneff. Could glyphosphate be a smoking gun for MC???:shock: :shock:
As for its effects on humans, the Samsel - Seneff study published in June suggests that glyphosate may actually be the most important factor in the development of a wide variety of chronic diseases, specifically because your gut bacteria are a key component of glyphosate’s mechanism of harm. Monsanto has steadfastly claimed that Roundup is harmless to animals and humans because the mechanism of action it uses (which allows it to kill weeds), called the shikimate pathway, is absent in all animals. However, the shikimate pathway IS present in bacteria, and that’s the key to understanding how it causes such widespread systemic harm in both humans and animals.

The bacteria in your body outnumber your cells by 10 to 1. For every cell in your body, you have 10 microbes of various kinds, and all of them have the shikimate pathway, so they will all respond to the presence of glyphosate!

Glyphosate causes extreme disruption of the microbe’s function and lifecycle. What’s worse, glyphosate preferentially affects beneficial bacteria, allowing pathogens to overgrow and take over. At that point, your body also has to contend with the toxins produced by the pathogens. Once the chronic inflammation sets in, you’re well on your way toward chronic and potentially debilitating disease...
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Yep, glyphosate is ubiquitous in commercial agriculture these days.

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Tex, can anything be done to ward off the cornworm? I just now have time for a garden. If this pest is in your area, I'm sure it is headed to the Panhandle.
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Hi Brenda,

The article that Zizzle cited about Brazil is talking about ordinary corn earworms, which are basically the same caterpillars as the cotton leafworm, and they're closely related to cotton bollworms and various other caterpillars that prosper in various ag crops. For controlling them in sweetcorn in a garden, a vegetable oil can be used, as described in articles such as this: Unfortunately they're not so easy to control in other crops. Caterpillars are relatively difficult to kill, as insect pests go.

The safest control method (IMO) is the biological pesticide, Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt), but now that Monsanto has GMO'd the Bt trait into corn seed, a lot of anti's view it as somehow dangerous. (We've been eating the Bt toxin residue for hundreds of years, because it has always been produced naturally when the bacteria propagate on corn, but now that Monsanto has become a middleman in the process, Bt is suddenly a bad thing.) :roll:

Gardeners traditionally used carbaryl powder (Sevin Dust) for that purpose, and it still works well for killing all types of caterpillar pests. But carbaryl is not considered to be as safe these days, as it once was. Probably the biggest argument against it is the fact that it kills honeybees. So most gardeners probably eschew Sevin Dust these days.

That's a two-way street, though. I recently used Sevin Dust to wipe out a swarm of bees that had been coexisting peacefully for many years under an abandoned, upside down horse feed trough, in a no-longer-used corral near the farmyard here. Apparently, they had recently been infiltrated/cross-bred with Africanized (killer) bees, because beginning this spring, whenever I would fire up a lawnmower to mow the lawn, a few scouts would immediately come to check me out, and they wouldn't give up. They followed a behavior pattern that I had never noticed in bees before. Instead of just swarming around me, or landing on me, or stinging me, they kept tapping me on the back of my neck and head, over and over again, and they would follow me for a very long way away from the hive. Now bees are often cantankerous in cloudy or unsettled weather, so I just gave them the benefit of the doubt, and waited until after dark to mow the lawn.

Then one day, I started mowing after sundown (but before dark), and they pulled the same old stunt, except that instead of 1 or 2 of them, 3 or 4 of them followed me around, repeatedly tapping me on the back of the head and neck, and then one of them stung me on an ear. That did it for me. After I finally got away from them, I waited until after dark, and then I mowed the lawn, but as I was mowing, I was busy trying to decide whether to have them removed, or just destroy them.

When I turned on the tv that night, the local news was on, and they were talking about someone who had been killed by a swarm of bees, in a small community roughly 25 or 30 miles away. I don't often watch the news on tv, but that captured my attention, especially when they interviewed a beekeeper who happened to mention that killer bees have a characteristic habit of "marking" their victims by repeatedly tapping them on the back of their head and neck, so that when the rest of the swarm arrive, they will know exactly where to go. :shock:

The next morning, I bought a couple of containers of Sevin Dust, and for 3 nights in a row, I sprinkled it liberally on and around the entrances that they were using to get under that trough. After that, I saw no more evidence that any survived.

During my lifetime, I've had several close scrapes with death, ranging from rolling a loaded grain truck after two tires blew out at the same time on the same side, to waking up one morning with massive, uncontrollable internal bleeding. But I believe that the realization that I had been living that close to a potential killer bee attack wins the award for the scariest close call that I've ever had. I believe that what saved my hide was the fact that I knew exactly where the hive/swarm was located, and I stayed away from there. Most people who are killed by killer bees don't realize the swarm is there, and they get too close before it's too late.

Sorry for the side track, but to get back on topic, the "worms" that I was referring to are the Mexican corn rootworm. In the High Plains, you may well have an overlap of all species of corn rootworms. At the very least, you should have western, southern, and Mexican corn rootworms. I'm not sure if the northern corn rootworms are found that far south, though. That doesn't mean that the Mexican corn rootworms may be as big a problem there as they are here. Down here, the ground rarely freezes during the winter, so that may be one of the reasons why they are so successful at overwintering. It gets a lot colder up there on the high plains where you are.

Since the southern corn rootworm adult is also known as the spotted cucumber beetle, you should be familiar with them. Like the adults of other corn rootworm species, they like to hang out on cucurbits (cucumbers, squash, gourds, etc.). Down here, the adults are usually the most abundant around late May to early June, (when the corn is silking), so that's the time to look for them, because the adults feed on cornsilk. Corn probably silks later up there though, so you may need to adjust the time frame accordingly. If you go to the site at the link below, and scroll down the page, you can see pictures of all of the various adult stages:

https://www.pioneer.com/home/site/us/ag ... -rootworm/

If you have high populations, you will see a lot of adults. If you don't see many adults, you probably don't have much of a problem. The southern corn rootworms have been here forever, but they rarely cause any major damage, so seeing a bunch of spotted cucumber beetles is usually nothing to get excited about (unless you're a cucumber. LOL). What bothers me is that we don't normally notice any Mexican corn rootworm adults, even though population levels are very high around here, so I'm not sure if we're just looking at the wrong times, or if they tend to lay low, or something else is going on.

The adults can also be controlled by carbaryl, or by pyrethrin sprays, but there are few organic control methods that will work against a heavy infestation.

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