Persistent hemorrhoids
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Persistent hemorrhoids
Yeah, glamorous topic. So, I've been bleeding for going on a year now and can't seem to figure out how to stop and heal in this area. Seems to happen regardless of food choices or output consistency. Is this common? Any suggestions?
Hi Jennifer,
It's not common for them to be that severe/persistent, but yes, 'roids are definitely associated with the D that goes with MC.
Something in your diet is causing the irritation/inflammation/swelling. Are you eating any dairy products, or acidic foods (citrus fruits, tomatoes, etc.)? Too much fiber may irritate hemorrhoids, also.
Your doctor should be able to prescribe a suppository that should help to reduce the inflammation and the swelling, which should help to promote healing. It's possible that there may even be a good OTC suppository that might help. Your pharmacist is probably your best source of information on what actually works and what doesn't. Doctors mostly go by what drug company reps tell them, but pharmacists are often more in touch with actual patient results.
Many years ago, when I had a round with bleeding 'roids, I believe I used a product called Annusol that provided decent results, but that was before my MC symptoms began.
Tex
It's not common for them to be that severe/persistent, but yes, 'roids are definitely associated with the D that goes with MC.
Something in your diet is causing the irritation/inflammation/swelling. Are you eating any dairy products, or acidic foods (citrus fruits, tomatoes, etc.)? Too much fiber may irritate hemorrhoids, also.
Your doctor should be able to prescribe a suppository that should help to reduce the inflammation and the swelling, which should help to promote healing. It's possible that there may even be a good OTC suppository that might help. Your pharmacist is probably your best source of information on what actually works and what doesn't. Doctors mostly go by what drug company reps tell them, but pharmacists are often more in touch with actual patient results.
Many years ago, when I had a round with bleeding 'roids, I believe I used a product called Annusol that provided decent results, but that was before my MC symptoms began.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thanks, Tex,
I'll be honest, in some ways I have given up trying, and I am sure I am reaping the consequences. I was on the rice/meat/mushy brocoli diet, Pepto, and 9 mg p/day deal for well over 6 months, and still was having D. Not explosive and not all day, but still had pain, nausea, etc. You may remember, I was also having sensory and vertigo issues. I took all the tests and was told I had BPPV of the lateral canal and "central nervous system pathology." My chiro and regular doctor then started mentioning MS and pushing me to get an MRI. Being the stubborn, former athlete I am, I threw a major fit (internally), told myself they were all wrong, and frankly, I was fine, and I just needed to buck up. Well, I also believed (hoped?) my meds and perhaps malnutrition were causing some of CNS stuff, so I added variety to my diet (okay, like ate whatever I wanted.), got off the pepto, and reduced entocort. Yeah, it hasn't helped in any area. So as of today, I've determined to go back on rice and ground beef/chicken, back on entocort at 9mg ... and maybe succomb to that stupid, pointless MRI.
I know I brought this on myself.
Thanks for the medicine suggestions. I'll talk with my pharmacist.
I'll be honest, in some ways I have given up trying, and I am sure I am reaping the consequences. I was on the rice/meat/mushy brocoli diet, Pepto, and 9 mg p/day deal for well over 6 months, and still was having D. Not explosive and not all day, but still had pain, nausea, etc. You may remember, I was also having sensory and vertigo issues. I took all the tests and was told I had BPPV of the lateral canal and "central nervous system pathology." My chiro and regular doctor then started mentioning MS and pushing me to get an MRI. Being the stubborn, former athlete I am, I threw a major fit (internally), told myself they were all wrong, and frankly, I was fine, and I just needed to buck up. Well, I also believed (hoped?) my meds and perhaps malnutrition were causing some of CNS stuff, so I added variety to my diet (okay, like ate whatever I wanted.), got off the pepto, and reduced entocort. Yeah, it hasn't helped in any area. So as of today, I've determined to go back on rice and ground beef/chicken, back on entocort at 9mg ... and maybe succomb to that stupid, pointless MRI.
I know I brought this on myself.
Thanks for the medicine suggestions. I'll talk with my pharmacist.
I don't know if the following suggestion will be of any help since we are all different. Several years ago my husband's blood work showed that he was pre-diabetic. In looking at his diet, he was eating tons of carbs, so he decided to cut back and see if that would help his blood sugar. We aimed for no more than 50 grams of carbs a meal, or no more than 150 grams of carbs a day. He was absolutely floored by the relief he got from a number of conditions that he never thought would be related. Most of interest to you, he had been plagued for a number of years with bleeding hemorrhoids, and after a week or so going low carb, they shrank, stopped bleeding and hardly ever bother him now. He also had blocked tear ducts that caused his eyes to constantly weep.... he was always mopping his eyes. He even had surgery on one of them that was a failure. Within 3 days of going low carb, he told me in amazement that his tear ducts had started working. He also would get bloated and have colic from time to time, and we traced that to high carb meals. It appears that with some people, high carbs can cause various types of inflammation.
I don't know if that will work for you, but if you give a low carb diet about a two week test, you should know if it will help you. Most purchased foods give the nutritional info on the package, including grams of carbs and there are many internet sites that provide info as well. It's actually disturbing how easy it is to overdo carbs. For example, 1/2 cup of white rice has 105 grams of carbs. He found that he needed a reasonable number of carbs, so going extreme like the Atkins diet wasn't for him.
I don't know if you are up to dealing with another diet alteration, but it's just a change in amount, not eliminating anything, and I thought I'd just mention this in case you want to try.
Rosie
I don't know if that will work for you, but if you give a low carb diet about a two week test, you should know if it will help you. Most purchased foods give the nutritional info on the package, including grams of carbs and there are many internet sites that provide info as well. It's actually disturbing how easy it is to overdo carbs. For example, 1/2 cup of white rice has 105 grams of carbs. He found that he needed a reasonable number of carbs, so going extreme like the Atkins diet wasn't for him.
I don't know if you are up to dealing with another diet alteration, but it's just a change in amount, not eliminating anything, and I thought I'd just mention this in case you want to try.
Rosie
Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time………Thomas Edison
That sounds like an excellent suggestion, because in additional to the carb tolerance issue, many people who have compromised digestion (due to MC, or other digestive issues) are unable to properly digest carbs, thus compounding the problem.It's certainly worth a try.
Thanks for sharing that information, Rosie.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Jennifer, 150 grams of carbs a day actually isn't too bad to work with as long as you avoid or limit the high carb foods. And of course it depends on what other categories of foods you avoid. My husband doesn't have any food intolerances, but I avoid gluten, dairy and soy, so for the most part he follows what I do. We don't do beans, as I'm soy intolerant and avoid other legumes and my husband doesn't like them anyway! He gets most of his carbs from vegetables and fruits and rarely has bread, pasta or sweet deserts.
For breakfast he usually has some variation of eggs with bacon or sausage (0 carbs), and some fruit (10 to 15 grams). I have a juicer, will do some low carb juicing of vegetables and leafy stuff for variety. He likes his 2 cups of coffee with milk and sugar, and each cup contains about 8 grams of carbs. So he only uses up about 30 grams of carbs for breakfast. He just avoids fruit juices because of all the sugar. A cup of orange juice has 26 grams of carbs! He tried diluting it with sparkling water, but decided it wasn't worth it. He would rather save up for a beer at the end of the day!
For lunch he alternates between chef salads, sandwiches and hamburgers or hot dogs without a bun. He adds fruit or a salad to round it out, depending on what he is having. For the sandwich, the two slices of bread add up to about 36 grams of carbs, but the meat, cheese, lettuce, tomato and spicy pepper filling has very little. For the chef salad, I find that toasted sunflower seeds adds the crunch of croutons without the carbs.
He loves his beer, and at 18 grams of carbs a bottle, he has to save up if he wants one. Wine is only 4 grams of carbs a glass. For dinner he has some sort of meat or seafood. I have a number of recipes that involve low carb marinades, spice rubs and sauces to provide some variety. Then we have a salad. I vary cole slaw, tossed greens, and variations on fruit salads, like waldorf. Sometimes we have a meal with pasta or rice, but he just gets a small amount, like a half cup.
I occasionally make a desert for company, and he will have just a sliver, which he makes sure he enjoys every crumb!
What really helped at the start was to make a list of the common foods we eat and the carbs in each. That really helped us see where the heavy load of carbs was as well as making it easy to figure out the carbs in various recipes. I printed out the list and keep it handy for checking. I was very contentious at the start carefully measuring everything until I got used to it. Now it's easy, as I have a nice variety of recipes and low carb ingredients on hand.
Oh yes, I noticed that I made a mistake in my previous post. The grams of carbs for rice was for a cup of uncooked not cooked rice. A half cup of cooked rice is only about 23 grams of carbs, a much better number!
I hope this helps.....
Rosie
For breakfast he usually has some variation of eggs with bacon or sausage (0 carbs), and some fruit (10 to 15 grams). I have a juicer, will do some low carb juicing of vegetables and leafy stuff for variety. He likes his 2 cups of coffee with milk and sugar, and each cup contains about 8 grams of carbs. So he only uses up about 30 grams of carbs for breakfast. He just avoids fruit juices because of all the sugar. A cup of orange juice has 26 grams of carbs! He tried diluting it with sparkling water, but decided it wasn't worth it. He would rather save up for a beer at the end of the day!
For lunch he alternates between chef salads, sandwiches and hamburgers or hot dogs without a bun. He adds fruit or a salad to round it out, depending on what he is having. For the sandwich, the two slices of bread add up to about 36 grams of carbs, but the meat, cheese, lettuce, tomato and spicy pepper filling has very little. For the chef salad, I find that toasted sunflower seeds adds the crunch of croutons without the carbs.
He loves his beer, and at 18 grams of carbs a bottle, he has to save up if he wants one. Wine is only 4 grams of carbs a glass. For dinner he has some sort of meat or seafood. I have a number of recipes that involve low carb marinades, spice rubs and sauces to provide some variety. Then we have a salad. I vary cole slaw, tossed greens, and variations on fruit salads, like waldorf. Sometimes we have a meal with pasta or rice, but he just gets a small amount, like a half cup.
I occasionally make a desert for company, and he will have just a sliver, which he makes sure he enjoys every crumb!
What really helped at the start was to make a list of the common foods we eat and the carbs in each. That really helped us see where the heavy load of carbs was as well as making it easy to figure out the carbs in various recipes. I printed out the list and keep it handy for checking. I was very contentious at the start carefully measuring everything until I got used to it. Now it's easy, as I have a nice variety of recipes and low carb ingredients on hand.
Oh yes, I noticed that I made a mistake in my previous post. The grams of carbs for rice was for a cup of uncooked not cooked rice. A half cup of cooked rice is only about 23 grams of carbs, a much better number!
I hope this helps.....
Rosie
Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time………Thomas Edison
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Jennifer,
Eating low carb is fairly easy. It takes discipline but like other radical eating changes you can get used to it and even begin to like it. I have been eating low carb for years, much fewer than 150 grams of carbs a day. I eat no grains and the only fruit I eat is wild blueberries. My diet consists of meat, fish, low carb veggies, nuts, extra virgin olive oil and coconut oil. It's a paleo diet with care taken not to eat a lot of fruit or starchy vegetables plus of course all my food intolerances. One problem that people encounter when going low carb is what is called the "low carb flu". If you reduce your carb intake radically the body has to convert from burning carbs for fuel to burning fat and this can take a few weeks to happen completely. During that time you might not feel well. If you are interested here is an article about that:
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/keto ... carb-pt-i/
I use Fitday to count carbs:
www.fitday.com
Jean
Eating low carb is fairly easy. It takes discipline but like other radical eating changes you can get used to it and even begin to like it. I have been eating low carb for years, much fewer than 150 grams of carbs a day. I eat no grains and the only fruit I eat is wild blueberries. My diet consists of meat, fish, low carb veggies, nuts, extra virgin olive oil and coconut oil. It's a paleo diet with care taken not to eat a lot of fruit or starchy vegetables plus of course all my food intolerances. One problem that people encounter when going low carb is what is called the "low carb flu". If you reduce your carb intake radically the body has to convert from burning carbs for fuel to burning fat and this can take a few weeks to happen completely. During that time you might not feel well. If you are interested here is an article about that:
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/keto ... carb-pt-i/
I use Fitday to count carbs:
www.fitday.com
Jean
Thank you, Rosie and Jean,
I can't do salad and vegetables other than overcooked broccoli and have struggled with fruit. Nuts are a problem unless creamed. In the beginning (Oct) until maybe Feb, I stuck to rice, broccoli, olive oil and meat (usually pork), but worried I wasn't getting enough nutrients. But as I said, I'm back on rice and meat and 9mg of entocort. I'm also taking hyoscyamine as we found one of my issues was moving things too quickly and not giving my body time to digest. That has helped with pain a great deal and I've gained some weight, so I know I'm doing better.
I can't do salad and vegetables other than overcooked broccoli and have struggled with fruit. Nuts are a problem unless creamed. In the beginning (Oct) until maybe Feb, I stuck to rice, broccoli, olive oil and meat (usually pork), but worried I wasn't getting enough nutrients. But as I said, I'm back on rice and meat and 9mg of entocort. I'm also taking hyoscyamine as we found one of my issues was moving things too quickly and not giving my body time to digest. That has helped with pain a great deal and I've gained some weight, so I know I'm doing better.
Jennifer, you are not alone. Ive had them on and off forever and since 2011 they have never gone away. Mine rarely bleed but are a nusiance. Prep. H doesnt help for me. Witch hazel helps for a few minutes only but is better than nothing. I eat primarily meat, veggies, and some fruit. It hasnt helped with the roids but has helped with other MC issues so i am sticking with it.
If anyone ever suggests having one lanced- run away and fast. That procedure and healing time was worse than the hemorhoid itself. At least for me.
I hope you find some relief because they can drive you insane, especially if you have other issues to deal with.
If anyone ever suggests having one lanced- run away and fast. That procedure and healing time was worse than the hemorhoid itself. At least for me.
I hope you find some relief because they can drive you insane, especially if you have other issues to deal with.
Deb
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path, and leave a trail.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path, and leave a trail.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
