Green beans and soy

Jskaggs · Post by **Jskaggs** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:22 pm

Hello,

I have a question concerning green beans and soy. Forgive me if there has been a thread on this question but I think I have messed up. I had a 21 on then EnteroLab test for soy and I was not thinking tonight and had chicken chili with white kidney beans and then earlier this week I cooked a pot of green beans. Then the light bulb went off in my head and I thought of soy. If people who have sensitives to soy do they ever eat any of the legume family?

Thanks,
Jane

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:21 pm

Hi jane. We all seem to be different with different beans and legumes. I can't eat peanut butter, lentils, or split peas... but am fine with white beans, and green beans. It just depends how how your body "sees" the different beans ( whether their structure looks enough like soy's structure to set off a reaction)

Leah

Jskaggs · Post by **Jskaggs** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:06 pm

Leah,
Thanks so much. That makes me feel better that I'm not going to mess up my system. So far, no problems. I just can't believe that I didn't think of soy and beans. Live and learn.

Thanks again.
Jane

Post by **tex** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:00 pm

Jane,

Many/most of us who react to soy also react to legumes (including the gums used in cooking to replace gluten in baked products, most of which are made from legume seeds, such as locust beans, guar, mesquite, etc.). As Leah pointed out though, there are sometimes exceptions for some of us, and green beans seem to be a somewhat common exception, though not everyone can tolerate them.

For those who are sensitive to soy, it's usually safer to avoid all legumes, and then after they reach remission, they can test some of the legumes (one at a time, of course) to see if they can be safely added back into the diet. If you are already in remission, and you are not taking Entocort, then you already have your answer, if you did not react to them.

Tex

Jskaggs · Post by **Jskaggs** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:53 am

Thanks Tex for the information. I am taking Budesonide 3 mg. daily and have 7 or more bm's a day (not really D now) and a pain in my lower left side. Guess I am not in remission and better watch more closely what I put in my mouth. I don't know what I would do without all of you. My doctor like other GI doctors told me to take the Budesonide and eat what I want to which leads to so much confusion.

Thanks again.
Jane

Polly · Post by **Polly** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:13 am

Hi Jane,

I agree that many have mixed results with legumes. I am sensitive to soy but can safely eat green beans as well as black/navy/kidney beans, and split peas. However, I cannot tolerate pinto beans, peanuts or guar gum. Go figure! LOL!

Polly

Jskaggs · Post by **Jskaggs** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:21 am

Isn't this disease a mystery! Polly, I don't know what to eat to get into remission. I am trying to stick with chicken, pork, and sweet potatoes since I have no reaction to nightshades and have been eating salads and of course the beans. Wish I could get rid of the pain in my side. Thanks for being there for us.

Jane

UkuleleLady · Post by **UkuleleLady** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:18 am

Jane, is there a reason you are only taking three milligrams of budensonide? Most people start at 9 and wean down to 3 when they are doing well.

I am on 9. I also have a pain in my left side that is slowly dropping off. I know I can't handle a salad, yet. I only eat cooked veggies for now, very little fruit, mostly meat and fish TBH. I recommend you give up salad for cooked veg as it is easier on your colon and see if the pain improves.

Nancy

Post by **tex** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:34 am

Nancy wrote:I recommend you give up salad for cooked veg as it is easier on your colon and see if the pain improves.

Raw salad is too rough for our intestines (for most of us) while we are still recovering.

Tex

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:37 am

Nancy is right. I was thinking the same thing when I read that you are still eating salad. If you really want to heal ( 7 times a day is still pretty high), then you should not be eating salads nor any beans or legumes. Even if you don't have an IgA reaction to the beans, they have too much fiber in them. It's very hard on the gut. I didn't even try salad or beans until after i was off the Entocort completely ( 6 months) and even to this day, the amount of salad i can eat (without getting looser stools) is fairly small.

Leah

Jskaggs · Post by **Jskaggs** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:05 am

Thank you all for your responses.

Nancy, when I was diagnosed in May my doctor started me out taking 18 mgs of Budesonide a day. I got it down to 9 then I started with c. I do agree that I need to up the Budesonide to 6 mg.

I do thank you for telling me about the salads. I keep trying to eat some of the things that I use to eat, thinking that I am all right, then mess up. Today my husband, daughter and I ate at McAlister's. Trying to be good, I ordered steamed veggies, fruit salad and mashed potatoes-- not thinking about the dairy in the potatoes, so I didn't eat those. Good grief, when will I ever learn!

Tex, I am reading your book for the second time. I have got to get a handle on this stuff.

Leah, thank you for walking me through this. How long were you on the Budesonide? I have a tendency for breaking bones (due to being a klutz) so I don't want to be on it for long in case of thinning of the bones.

I owe you all a lot.
Thanks,
Jane

Post by **tex** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:57 am

Jane wrote:Tex, I am reading your book for the second time. I have got to get a handle on this stuff.

I consider that to be an excellent plan, because it's difficult to comprehend all the information in one reading. There's a lot of information crammed into the book, and I probably should have written it in 2 volumes rather than one. But I've always been able to do a much better job of understanding and remembering detailed information after I read it a second time, so I figure that rather than to read 2 books, it's better to read one twice.

Tex

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:50 pm

Hi Jane.
I was on Budesonide for a total of 6 months. Approximately one month on 9 mg., one month on 6mg., 2 months on 3mg., and the last two months was spent slowly weaning off (while i made a few more changes to my diet ( because on such a low dose, you can feel the reactions more)/

I hate to give you some more bad news, but you should also stay away from fresh fruit right now. For many of us, it's one of the fastest reactions. Between the sugar, fructose, natural sorbitol, and fiber, it's kind of a nightmare. Even after 1 1/2 years, my ability to eat fruit is pretty limited.

Leah

PS Eating out is a mine field and you probably shouldn't do it very often until after you have healed some more.