Enterolab / Vitamin B12 / Vitamin D3 Results

terre · Post by **terre** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:08 pm

Tex, please feel free to add these.

Okay, does this mean to go GF / DF? I am VERY thankful that no reactivity was listed for any of the 11 foods....then why do I continue to have D?

Enterolab results:

Gluten/Antigenic Food Sensitivity Stool Panel
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 13 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)

Fecal Anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA 12 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)

Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 6 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)

Fecal Anti-soy IgA 4 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)

Fat Malabsorption Stool Test (Fecal Fat)
Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score Less than 300 Units (Normal Range is less than 300 Units)

Expanded Antigenic Food Sensitivity Stool Panel
Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 4 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)

While all of the foods tested can be immune-stimulating, the hierarchy of reactions detected were as follows:

Food to which there was no significant immunological reactivity: Food to which there was some immunological reactivity (1+): Food to which there was moderate immunological reactivity (2+): Food to which there was significant and/or the most immunological reactivity (3+):
Corn
Oat
Rice
Beef
Chicken
Pork
Tuna
Almond
Walnut
Cashew
White potato
None None None

Vitamin B12:
Results: 568 PG/ML
Reference Range: 239-931 PG/ML

Vitamin D 25-Hydroxy:
25-Hydroxy Vitamin D Result: 38 ng/mL

Vitamin D deficiency <10 ng/mL
Vitamin D insufficiency 10-30 ng/mL
Vitamin D sufficiency >30 ng/mL
Vitamin D potential toxicity >100 ng/mL

Reference Range: 30-100 ng/mL

Looks like I'm fine on B12, but on the low side of D3....what do you think?

Thanks for looking over this and giving me your thoughts.
Terre

Post by **tex** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:28 pm

Hi Terre,

You've interpreted the EnteroLab results correctly, as far as I can see.

While your vitamin D level is not great, it's not bad, either. I prefer to keep my vitamin D level higher (I'd love to have it at twice your level, but so far I haven't been able to do that).

I would view your B-12 level the same way as the vitamin D. I like to keep my B-12 level over 900, because I'm trying to undo peripheral neuropathy damage (caused by gluten).

Your doctor, on the other hand, probably thinks that both your vitamin D and B-12 levels are higher than necessary.

Thanks, I'll add your results to the list.

Tex

terre · Post by **terre** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:36 pm

Yep, you are correct, the letter from my doc states "levels are both considered normal".

So IYO, should I supplement both or just the D3?

Also, on another post you recommended the original version of Imodium....would that be Imodium A-D?

Thanks for your reply and all of your help!
Terre

Post by **tex** » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:22 pm

Terre wrote:So IYO, should I supplement both or just the D3?

You certainly don't urgently need any supplementation, but if I were in your situation, I would probably add a little vitamin D to my routine (maybe 2,000–3,000 IU per day), because vitamin D is so beneficial for the immune system, and IBDs tend to deplete our vitamin D supply. Also, bear in mind that with winter coming on, if you are currently getting any vitamin D from exposure to sunlight, your vitamin D level will probably decrease as the days shorten and the sun moves farther away.

If you want to increase your B-12 level, 1,000 mcg per day of B-12 (preferably in combination with 400 mcg of folic acid) is a pretty good insurance policy.

Terre wrote:Also, on another post you recommended the original version of Imodium....would that be Imodium A-D?

Yes, that's it. I apologize, because I should have included that information. Some of the store brands contain lactose or other undesirable ingredients, if I recall correctly.

You're very welcome,
Tex

lorimoose · Post by **lorimoose** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:01 am

Hi Terre,

This a is great news. I hope the D comes under control soon. Gluten and dairy are not easy, but it is really good to know your trouble makers!

I have supplemented B12 with a sublingual, from Davinci Labs, and my levels came up in a few months from under 200 to over 500. I take pill form d3 from Country Life.

Enjoy, your vacation.

Warmly,
Lori

terre · Post by **terre** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:10 am

Y'all are just so kind....thank you so very, very much.

Wishing you a good day!
Terre

humbird753 · Post by **humbird753** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:22 am

Congratulations, Terre, on your test results. Mine also showed I needed to eliminate gluten and dairy; otherwise, the others were fine. Wish I could answer your question as to why D continues even though gluten and dairy are eliminated from the diet. I still have not seen anything "norman" going on here.

Good luck to you on your journey to better health!

Paula

terre · Post by **terre** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:27 pm

Thanks for posting Paula. Could you tell me when you were diagnosed? Even though no "norman", have you been able to at least improve things with diet? Have you tried any medications?

Sorry for all the questions....just curious as to how fellow potty people manage. Now that I've got my Enterolab results, I plan on getting very strict with my diet and learn as much as I can about ingredients I should watch out for. My hope is to at least get back to a "somewhat" normal life....even if I never reach remission.

We are on vacation next week so I know eating will be more of a challenge. I'll do the best I can.

Thanks again,
Terre

humbird753 · Post by **humbird753** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:01 pm

Hi Terre,

My symptoms started exactly August 3, 2009, but I didn't get a diagnosis for LC until June, 2010. And, I didn't find this forum until the end of November, 2011.

I tried the Pepto protocol (8 tabs/day for well over 2 months per dr.) prior to coming here, but it only made things worse for me. I was having D about 15 times a day, but when on the Pepto regimen, the frequency increased to 25 to 30 times a day. After discontinuing the use of Pepto tabs the frequency decreased back to 15 times per day. Other than the Pepto tabs, I haven't tried other medications.

It took me awhile to figure out which foods the "less than obvious" gluten was hiding in. I have found what works for me is staying with whole foods rather than any of the GF processed foods. Since I work full time, staying with the whole foods (1 ingredient foods) is the simplest.

Even though I haven't seen "norman" yet, I have regained energy and am so thankful I can do things I used to do. This summer (1st time since 2009) I am able to take long walks and go golfing again, do yard work, and gardening. Two things I never enjoyed and never wanted to do was cook or read. I have done plenty of both since coming here. Surprisingly, I now enjoy both, even though for the most part I still remain an outdoors type of person.

I see that you're fairly new here. The amount of time it takes to see results after going GF and DF differs with each of us. Some appear to get results within a couple of weeks. It took me several months, but it also took me awhile to figure out that gluten was in so many foods.

Hope you have a good vacation. It's nice to meet you.

Paula

terre · Post by **terre** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:17 pm

Paula, it is so encouraging to read your post - that even without reaching remission, that you feel better and are able to do things that you love.

I have a lot to learn and am so thankful that I found this site, everyone has been wonderful. I have also joined a local GF support group, but they only meet once a month...I've only gone once and will have to miss the next meeting due to vacation, so I'll pick back up in October. In the meantime, I have some books that I want to read to help me gain additional knowledge.

It's nice to meet you too and I love the quote at the bottom of your post. Once again, thanks for sharing.

Terre

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:46 pm

Those are good results Terre! I hope that the diet starts to work for you soon. Maybe after your vacation, you can also concentrate on making sure you aren't taking in fiber in the form of fruits and vegetables. Too much fructose from fruit can also cause D. It still does for me and I am doing pretty well in general. When out guts are inflamed, they just can't handle the fiber and sugars.

Keep us posted
leah

terre · Post by **terre** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:06 pm

Leah, thanks for your post. I plan on eating the best I can while on vacation, but after that, I plan on learning all I can and try my best to get this under control. Thanks for the tips on veggies and fruit (fructose and fiber), I'll keep that in mind as I modify my diet.

I've been reading your posts and am very sorry that you are having to deal with thyroid issues....I hope that after you get this resolved, that life smoothes out for you.

Terre

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:13 pm

You're very sweet, but my thyroid is under control now. my doctors upped my dose and I am doing better. thank you :)

leah

Post by **tex** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:20 pm

Terre wrote:I've been reading your posts and am very sorry that you are having to deal with thyroid issues....I hope that after you get this resolved, that life smoothes out for you.

You're probably thinking of DebE.

Tex