What could it be now???

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:12 am

Maybe you shouldn't be eating any seeds until things settle down. i doubt the carrots are a problem.
Give it time

leah

ldubois7 · Post by **ldubois7** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:44 am

Leah,

It's just that seeds/nuts are the only good fats (without carbs/flours) that I can snack on....I stopped nuts several weeks ago, then added in the seeds....but now....who knows....I definitely am reacting to something!

Post by **tex** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:10 am

Linda,

I apologize for no knowing this, but I simply can't remember what everyone is eating or what medications they are taking or have tried in the past. You're not using Entocort (if my memory is right). Have you tried using antihistamines? If so, which ones? Have you tried Betaine HCL?

As a source of healthy fat, have you tried avocados?

What have you added to your diet (including supplemental vitamins) during the past 3 or 4 weeks?

Tex

ldubois7 · Post by **ldubois7** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:20 pm

Tex,

Right, I have not tried any drugs for my MC.

Avacados are high in histamines, so I avoid them now. I do take Allegra daily. I didn't want to try a DAO due to pork as an ingredient and pork was 2+ on Enterolab.. I cut out all supplements a while ago. I have not had time to try Betaine HCL yet.

What's different....last week I tried butternut squash again...nope! I tried pumpkin seeds instead of sunflower due to histamines...nope. I tried carrots...nope....I just wanted to try some veggies, and pull away from the buckwheat/teff flours due to their high fiber content....nope, nope, nope.

I am down to no choices because of histamines, salicylic acids, reacting to all 11 foods on Enterolab as well as the 'big' 4.

I am stumped! :(

Post by **tex** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:32 pm

Remember that it's not necessary to avoid all histamines. The trick is to prevent the level from reaching a point at which it tips the balance. Histame might be helpful for purging residual histamines, but I understand that you want to avoid meds as much as possible, and I respect that choice. The fact that a medication or supplement might be derived from pork might or might not be a problem. The only way to be sure is to try it.

Tex

ldubois7 · Post by **ldubois7** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:48 pm

Thanks, Tex, for your input.

I thought about trying Histame a few months ago, just to see what might happen. Maybe I will order some and give it a try. Then, I can eat avocado again and get away from the nuts and seeds....just can't quite get over this hurdle! My detective hat is on again.

:)

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:49 pm

HI linda. I also believe histamines are a problem for me, but i do continue to eat some and try to balance it out with Allegra and Histame when I know I am eating a meal high in them ( like I just did with the mexican meal I had). When I go to an event, I sometimes take two Allegra. Seems to work :)

Good luck
leah

Gloria · Post by **Gloria** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:58 pm

Hi Linda,

I also avoid most high-histamine food, but I do eat avocado every three days, along with Histame most times (when I remember). Avocado has the lowest amount of fructose of any fruit, which makes it even more appealing to me, plus it's very nutritious.

I ate sunflower butter for quite a while, but eventually realized it was giving me problems, similar to nut butters. I still miss eating the nut butters and sunflower butter because they provided a quick, nutritious snack.

My quick, nutritious snack now is a washed (to reduce the histamines), dried mango slice from Trader Joe's. I thought it was interesting that the dried cherries were the only fruit the woman eating only 6 foods could eat.

Gloria

JFR · Post by **JFR** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:42 am

Linda,

I also struggle with what to eat for a snack. I can eat nut butters but I try to keep my daily carb count low and I want a snack that is carb free. I just ordered turkey jerky from Wellness Meats:

http://www.grasslandbeef.com/Detail.bok?no=1019

I'm hoping that will do the trick.

Jean

ldubois7 · Post by **ldubois7** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:06 am

Gloria, I hadn't thought of rotating the avocado. I will give that a try.

Jean, Please let me know how the jerky works for you. I'd love to try that!

I had watched this video (that I believe) Joan had posted earlier in the week. Last night, I remembered that on Thursday, I ate a small bowl of organic, non GMO corn flakes (3/4 cup) with coconut milk as a snack. I realized that the problems I was having started the next day, and since then I have stabilized, slowly. Could it be I am hyper sensitive to the grain? Does my body think that it is gluten?

http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/dr-peter-osb ... ree-diets/

Post by **tex** » Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:08 pm

Linda,

When I was recovering, I couldn't eat many processed foods that had labels that appeared to be safe. It's not particularly uncommon for corn to be cross-contaminated with wheat. Most processors just assume that corn is pure, but that's not always the case, because there are many opportunities for it to become cross-contaminated somewhere along the line. At most grain elevators, conveyors are not completely cleaned out when switching from one grain to another, so that there is almost always some mixing. Usually, wheat seed can be cleaned out of corn during processing, but the cleaning process is not always perfect. I would suspect cross-contamination with that batch (but that's just a guess, of course).

Tex

ldubois7 · Post by **ldubois7** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:38 am

Tex,

I don't eat any processed foods right now. I purchased Erewhon Corn Flakes to try because they are supposed to be (certified) gluten free, soy free, and dairy free. The are organic and nonGMO, too.
The only ingredients are milled corn and sea salt. They are low in fiber so I though I'd try. I do use baking powder in my baked goods with no problems, so I didn't believe it was the corn itself that was the problem.

The question now is...should I try organic corn meal, and risk another reaction like the one I just had? Or, just put corn on the shelf for now?

:)

Post by **tex** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:42 am

Linda,

I'm not suggesting that corn is the problem. I'm saying that the corn used in those corn flakes (corn flakes are definitely a processed food) may have been made from corn that was cross-contaminated.

Do you by any chance remember the halcyon days when McCann's Irish Oats were the most popular gluten-free brand of oats? They were heavily promoted as a safe, nutritious, gluten-free food . . . until one day when someone actually tested some of them and found that they were contaminated with gluten.

Some samples contained surprisingly high levels.

But that wasn't the full extent of the problem. Out of 134 samples from supposedly "gluten-free" oat products, over 81 % of them contained gluten from wheat, barley, and/or rye. Bear in mind that some of the contaminated samples tested below 20 ppm, but many of them tested high enough to be a serious problem (some tested up in the hundreds of ppm). The study was published in 2008.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18467914

Tex

ldubois7 · Post by **ldubois7** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:10 am

I see. I wasn't thinking about the corn itself being contaminated before it even gets to the processing plant.

So, you don't put much stock in the Fox interview sited above that refers to corn and rice products not allowing the gut to heal in some people? Just wondering your thoughts.

As I mentioned, I do use baking powder which contains corn starch and have not had an issue.

Post by **tex** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:27 pm

Linda,

I haven't had time to view that video, but if it discusses cross-reactivity (another form of gluten being confused with wheat gluten by the immune system), I have a hunch that may be possible during a flare, but I'm not sure if it is as big a problem as some people believe it to be. IMO, the jury is still out on that issue, and as the researchers always say, "More research needs to be done".

Tex