I'm still experiencing stools full of gas in the morning. It's a loud sputtering noise.
I take a Allegra daily & only eat about 7 foods that I rotate.
I also have gurgling & rolling in my digestive tract on and off. It's not a lot, but it bothers me because I don't know if it's a bad sign....that I'm not healing or developing sensitivities to what I'm eating.
I've been working hard at healing & it's been such a long road.
Should I cut out Allegra & see what happens? I can't take the other H1's as they contain lactose or sugar alcohols.
Any help is appreciated!
sputtering/gassy stools
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sputtering/gassy stools
Linda :)
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
Hi Linda,
Well, as I recall, antihistamines can cause gas, but normally they don't cause other digestive issues except in cases of extreme overdose (as in 10X the labeled dose). I suppose it's possible that someone could be sensitive to antihistamines to the extent that even just one pill might amount to an overdose, but that would be very, very extraordinary. If Allegra is indeed the cause of that much gas (it sounds as though you are having way more gas than should normally be the case), that suggests that it might be possible that you are overly sensitive to either one or more of the ingredients in Allegra, or possibly to H1 antihistamines in general.
So it might be worthwhile to skip it for a day to see what happens.
I can't remember — have you tried betaine HCL? Maybe your remaining digestive issues are due to low stomach acid.
Tex
Well, as I recall, antihistamines can cause gas, but normally they don't cause other digestive issues except in cases of extreme overdose (as in 10X the labeled dose). I suppose it's possible that someone could be sensitive to antihistamines to the extent that even just one pill might amount to an overdose, but that would be very, very extraordinary. If Allegra is indeed the cause of that much gas (it sounds as though you are having way more gas than should normally be the case), that suggests that it might be possible that you are overly sensitive to either one or more of the ingredients in Allegra, or possibly to H1 antihistamines in general.
So it might be worthwhile to skip it for a day to see what happens.
I can't remember — have you tried betaine HCL? Maybe your remaining digestive issues are due to low stomach acid.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Good day, Tex,
I seem to be highly sensitive to everything...my Enterolab mean score for all 11 foods was 32, and I have never done well with any drugs in my life....I always have adverse reactions, not life threatening, but enough that it's not worth it for me to take them.
I have not tried the betaine HCL yet. Maybe that is my next step. Do you know where it is available....drug store, Walmart, or internet?
Thank you :)
I seem to be highly sensitive to everything...my Enterolab mean score for all 11 foods was 32, and I have never done well with any drugs in my life....I always have adverse reactions, not life threatening, but enough that it's not worth it for me to take them.
I have not tried the betaine HCL yet. Maybe that is my next step. Do you know where it is available....drug store, Walmart, or internet?
Thank you :)
Linda :)
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
I'm pretty sure that you can find the Betaine HCL in most locations that sell OTC pharmaceuticals. I found it at a small health food store originally, but I've seen it at Walmart, and all drug stores should have it.
Good luck with trying it. I hope this turns out to be the final piece of the puzzle.
Here's how to find the correct dosage:
1) Day one: 30 minutes before breakfast - one tab 650 mg betaine HCL; if burning occurs, stop taking
2) Day two: if no discomfort on day one, take two caps the next day. If there is discomfort, the correct dose is one cap with each meal
3) Day three: if no discomfort with two, take three caps. This will be the dose taken with each meal.
When you take a Betaine HCL tablet, you should notice a warm feeling in your stomach, roughly 15 or 20 minutes after you take it. If you don't notice any change, the dose is insufficient. Increase the dose at the next trial, until you experience a warm feeling after taking it. If you experience a burning sensation instead, that dose is too high. If it happens on the first dose with only one tablet, then you don't need any Betaine HCL — you already produce either plenty, or too much stomach acid.
Tex
Good luck with trying it. I hope this turns out to be the final piece of the puzzle.
Here's how to find the correct dosage:
1) Day one: 30 minutes before breakfast - one tab 650 mg betaine HCL; if burning occurs, stop taking
2) Day two: if no discomfort on day one, take two caps the next day. If there is discomfort, the correct dose is one cap with each meal
3) Day three: if no discomfort with two, take three caps. This will be the dose taken with each meal.
When you take a Betaine HCL tablet, you should notice a warm feeling in your stomach, roughly 15 or 20 minutes after you take it. If you don't notice any change, the dose is insufficient. Increase the dose at the next trial, until you experience a warm feeling after taking it. If you experience a burning sensation instead, that dose is too high. If it happens on the first dose with only one tablet, then you don't need any Betaine HCL — you already produce either plenty, or too much stomach acid.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thanks for the information.
I really hope this is the last piece to my puzzle, because this whole MC thing has been totally mind boggling.
I did start taking Vit. D3 (from Freeda), and so far so good....I haven't been able to take any supplements for many many months, so this is encouraging.
I'll keep you posted.
I really hope this is the last piece to my puzzle, because this whole MC thing has been totally mind boggling.
I did start taking Vit. D3 (from Freeda), and so far so good....I haven't been able to take any supplements for many many months, so this is encouraging.
I'll keep you posted.
Linda :)
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
Tex,
I was searching past posts, but couldn't find the post where we discussed the difference between the betaine hcl and an acidic food, for helping the stomach to break down food. For example, I had read that a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar during a meal would help with the digesting process...or a lemon slice in your water.
But, as I recall they weren't the same as betaine HCL, but I don't recall why that is.
:)
I was searching past posts, but couldn't find the post where we discussed the difference between the betaine hcl and an acidic food, for helping the stomach to break down food. For example, I had read that a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar during a meal would help with the digesting process...or a lemon slice in your water.
But, as I recall they weren't the same as betaine HCL, but I don't recall why that is.
:)
Linda :)
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
Linda,
Apple cider vinegar is not a very strong acid. Its pH typically runs from 4.25 to 5.0. Distilled vinegar is much stronger, having a pH of around 2.0 to 2.4. Pure lemon juice has a pH of about 2.0 to 2.2, but I have no idea what a dilution from a lemon slice in a glass of water might be. Presumably it would be pretty weak.
Undiluted hydrochloric acid has a pH of 1.0. Gastric acid is (diluted) hydrochloric acid, and when food is being digested, the pH is typically in the range of 1.2 to 1.5. If the stomach is empty though, the pH tends to drift upward to approximately the range of apple cider vinegar. That may be why so many people think that apple cider vinegar will help digestion. But the reality is that apple cider vinegar is not anywhere near acidic enough for good digestion.
Betaine HCL works by stimulating the parietal cells in the stomach to produce more acid.
As the chyme (partially-digested food) leaves the stomach and enters the dueodenum, as it passes the common bile duct, the pancreas adds (in addition to digestive enzymes) enough bicarbonate to raise the pH to somewhere near the neutral range (neutral pH is 7.0). Therefore the pH in the intestines typically runs in the 6.5–7.5 range.
And as Brandy points out, my guts were also still gurgling occasionally during the recovery period. It probably just means that things are still being sorted out, because conditions are not yet perfect (a lot of healing remains to be done).
Tex
Apple cider vinegar is not a very strong acid. Its pH typically runs from 4.25 to 5.0. Distilled vinegar is much stronger, having a pH of around 2.0 to 2.4. Pure lemon juice has a pH of about 2.0 to 2.2, but I have no idea what a dilution from a lemon slice in a glass of water might be. Presumably it would be pretty weak.
Undiluted hydrochloric acid has a pH of 1.0. Gastric acid is (diluted) hydrochloric acid, and when food is being digested, the pH is typically in the range of 1.2 to 1.5. If the stomach is empty though, the pH tends to drift upward to approximately the range of apple cider vinegar. That may be why so many people think that apple cider vinegar will help digestion. But the reality is that apple cider vinegar is not anywhere near acidic enough for good digestion.
Betaine HCL works by stimulating the parietal cells in the stomach to produce more acid.
As the chyme (partially-digested food) leaves the stomach and enters the dueodenum, as it passes the common bile duct, the pancreas adds (in addition to digestive enzymes) enough bicarbonate to raise the pH to somewhere near the neutral range (neutral pH is 7.0). Therefore the pH in the intestines typically runs in the 6.5–7.5 range.
And as Brandy points out, my guts were also still gurgling occasionally during the recovery period. It probably just means that things are still being sorted out, because conditions are not yet perfect (a lot of healing remains to be done).
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thank you all for your input. I'll hang in there, and let you know how it goes.
I only took 1/2 of an Allegra today. I won't take any tomorrow and see what happens.
I also ordered Betaine HCL from Freeda because I started on their Vit. D3 and have tolerated it well.......Thanks to Gloria for the recommendation, since they are in tablet form & are gelatin free.
Have a good evening!
I only took 1/2 of an Allegra today. I won't take any tomorrow and see what happens.
I also ordered Betaine HCL from Freeda because I started on their Vit. D3 and have tolerated it well.......Thanks to Gloria for the recommendation, since they are in tablet form & are gelatin free.
Have a good evening!
Linda :)
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
Linda,
I forgot to mention that the Betaine HCL that I used contains pepsin, and it's a good idea to also take pepsin, when taking Betaine. Polly brought the article at the following link to my attention, and it appears to offer a very good discussion about this issue. The second link below is from the article, and it leads to an excellent discussion about how to take Betaine HCL, and how to determine the correct dosage.
4 Common Betaine HCl Mistakes
How to Supplement with Betaine HCL for Low Stomach Acid
Good luck,
Tex
I forgot to mention that the Betaine HCL that I used contains pepsin, and it's a good idea to also take pepsin, when taking Betaine. Polly brought the article at the following link to my attention, and it appears to offer a very good discussion about this issue. The second link below is from the article, and it leads to an excellent discussion about how to take Betaine HCL, and how to determine the correct dosage.
4 Common Betaine HCl Mistakes
How to Supplement with Betaine HCL for Low Stomach Acid
Good luck,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Linda,
You're more than welcome. I was wondering if you went with the Freeda vitamins. I haven't noticed any problems with their vitamin d3, either, so that makes three of us super-sensitive Potty People who can vouch for them. Polly is the third.
Gloria
You're more than welcome. I was wondering if you went with the Freeda vitamins. I haven't noticed any problems with their vitamin d3, either, so that makes three of us super-sensitive Potty People who can vouch for them. Polly is the third.
Gloria
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