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Post by UkuleleLady »

Thanks for sharing! Interesting abt the walking vs weights. And the stronium.
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HI TALK OF EXERCISE, ONLY TODAY I BOUGHT MY 2ND PAIR OF SKETCHERS GO WALKS.
I FIND I CAN WALK THE MALL, ITS COLD HERE, I AM SURE IT DOES MY BONES GOOD, AND HELPS WITH ALL SORTS OF HEALTH ISSUES.
I DO WHAT I CAN, I KEEP GOING.
I NEVER HAVE EXERCISED IN MY LIFE, NOW I DO.

IM DOING GOOD ON THE ENTOCORT ALSO, I HAVE NORMANS NOW
SO FAR SO GOOD.

MY BEST TO ALL MY FRIENDS OUT THERE.

MARIE
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Nancy, when I was dx'd with osteoperosis I corresponded with Joe about it. He did a lot of research re: supplements and recommended these, both made by Metagenics:
Osteo-genics and
Ostera

I order them from Amazon. They aren't cheap but they contain everything necessary to promote maximum absorption of calcium.
Since Joe did the research I trust it implicitly.

My problem is remembering to take them. I usually manage to remember once a day, mostly remember 2x a day, and very seldom remember 3x a day.

I also take a lot of VitD3.

I have tried to get off PPIs, but I always reach a level where the GERD comes rushing back and it takes longer each time to beat it down.

Oh, and exercise? I was walking way more before the last accident. Licorice is making sure I still take some walks.
I was swimming a lot, and vigorously. I am still trying to go in the water at least 3 times a week, but it's way less vigorous now.
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nancyl wrote:Well, I just returned from that talk at the health food store. He did not push any particular supplement, just went over everything you need to know about calcium and other natural meds to take that will help. I asked about the one I take and he said that is the one he always recommends, which is Bone-Up by Jarrow. Magnesium of course. He said Vit. D3 is very important, 5,000 IU in the winter beginning in Oct. and cutting back in the summer. MK4 is the gold star for Vit. K and there has been a lot of research. In Japan it is like a regular staple, but very expensive. MK7 works just as well and much more affordable. He likes Life Extension brand. Vit. K works with calcium to build bone quality. The most important one is Stronium. It works with calcium to build bone density and builds it fast. No one asked what brand is best, but I am going back to the store next week and will ask because I want to get some. Last, but not least is excercise and it was not weight lifting, but walking or any excersice that works those bones that can fracture. Walking is the most important thing to do. So, when I see him I am going to have to ask if any of this helps if your taking Omeprazole.


He had a lot more to say, was very interesting, but that's it in a nutshell.

A good calcium
Magnesium
Vit. K (MK7)
Stronium
Walking

Nancy
The trouble with MK7(vitamin k) is that it is usually made from natto which is fermented soy. You have to look for a soy free source of vitamin k.

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I've been using an online program to calculate the nutrients of foods I'm eating. The program reported that my vitamin E level, which I was worried about, is normal, but my vitamin K level is not within range. That's not a surprise because vitamin K is abundant in green and leafy vegetables, which I don't tolerate.

I didn't want to take a supplement for vitamin K, so I searched among the food I'm eating to see where I could naturally increase it. I was surprised to find that 1 Tbsp. of canola oil provides 11% of the RDA. I started using almond oil for the vitamin E, but I'm going back to using canola oil in my cooking and baking.

It's easy to find a list of specific foods containing selected nutrients using this website: http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/nutrients/index

BTW, I asked my doctor if my low vitamin K was a good thing because it helps form blood clots. I'm concerned about blood clots because both my parents had strokes within months of my age. He said he knew of no study indicating there was a relationship between low vitamin K and a lower incidence of stroke.

After reading the last few comments on this thread, I wonder if a low vitamin K level will aggravate my osteoporosis. I probably have only been low in the vitamin since I eliminated all green vegetables a couple of months ago, however.

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Gloria wrote:He said he knew of no study indicating there was a relationship between low vitamin K and a lower incidence of stroke.


Of course the corollary to that is the probability that the reason why he was unaware of a study that showed that low vitamin K might result in a stroke risk advantage, is most likely simply due to the fact that no one has ever done a study on the relationship between low vitamin K and stroke risk. :shrug:

I don't eat any green vegetables either, and as you know, I take pills to reduce stroke risk.

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