Random Question (explicit)

solisspirit · Post by **solisspirit** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:18 pm

Since I've gone on the GF and SF diet a little over a month ago, I've noticed some changes to my poop. It's actually harder and more solid, but still very narrow shaped. Before it was mostly just watery stools. I still get that too sometimes when I eat anything with soy or gluten, but mostly now it's just solid thin shaped poop. But, this made me think of something.

As some of you know from my other recent post, I've been having some issues with discomfort in my butt, and I think it may be coming from a couple if not a few inches up. I've had people tell me it could be an internal hemorrhoid. But something dawned on me. None of these discomforts were an issue until a little after being on these diets. Then I started thinking maybe it has something to do with my poop now hardening and being in the narrow passage ways of my bowels, causing pressure around the walls of my intestines. Is this a plausible assumption?

When I do go to the bathroom and relieve myself, the pressure is gone, and sometimes I will have a slight discomfort afterwords that feels like maybe a hemorrhoid or something, but another question is, could the hardening of my poop (or becoming more solid) be putting extra pressure on the walls of my intestines and making a hemorrhoid? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

DJ · Post by DJ » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:02 am

None of these discomforts were an issue until a little after being on these diets. Then I started thinking maybe it has something to do with my poop now hardening and being in the narrow passage ways of my bowels, causing pressure around the walls of my intestines.

Good morning. In your earlier posts you spoke of having loose BMs for years. I'm wondering if the sensations that go with D became the "norm" and you have sort of forgotten the pressure feeling that tells you to move your bowels (when you are not having D).

Since I've gone on the GF and SF diet a little over a month ago, I've noticed some changes to my poop. It's actually harder and more solid, but still very narrow shaped. Before it was mostly just watery stools. I still get that too sometimes when I eat anything with soy or gluten, but mostly now it's just solid thin shaped poop.

It sounds like you would benefit from avoiding gluten and soy completely.

UkuleleLady · Post by **UkuleleLady** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:16 am

My understanding is that if you had D for months, the wall of your colon can become lax. As your stools become more formed, they stretch the wall out, and you might be experiencing some discomfort due to that. Just an idea.

Post by **tex** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:31 am

We have more than one member who after living with D for years, experienced an anal fissure (tear) along with her first normally-formed bowel movement. Yes, the sensations from normally formed stool will be different, and can even be somewhat painful, after years without normal BMs.

Tex

solisspirit · Post by **solisspirit** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:41 am

This is the only thing I could come up with too. I've had loose stools for years, and I haven't always have watery stools all the time before the diets, but now I'm having many more solid poops. I'm not having any discomfort right, just to let you have some idea, but later on today once I may if I need to go to the bathroom. And it's usually when my poop is in the area of my descending colon. When I do relieve myself, the discomfort goes away.

Post by **tex** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:15 pm

Sounds pretty normal.

Tex

brandy · Post by **brandy** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:10 pm

Hi SS,

It sounds like you are doing pretty well with your healing! It took awhile for me but if you stick w/ GF, DF and SF before you know it you should be doing pretty good.

Just a reminder....when you get your colonoscopy make sure the GI doc gets a lot of biopsies and make sure the GI doc has the pathologist stain for mast cells. This is really important. Also, regardless of what you find out you are welcome to keep hanging out with us!

Also, saw your previous pix. Thought you looked ruggedly handsome in a "chiseled" kind of way. i.e. I could see you hanging out with the girl models in South Beach. (As a Dad I thought you'd laugh at that comment.) Part of the situation when we are at our low weights is that the American population is so overweight that we might be "low normal" in weight but everyone else is 40 pounds or more overweight so that we look scrawny. I suspect that if you were hanging out with soldiers from WWII, WWI or the Civil War you would be on the lean side but the other fellas might weigh 10 or 15 more pounds more but not the 220 pounds or more that is not uncommon for men nowadays. If you watch old movies from the 1940-s to the 1960's male actors were much leaner than they are now.

brandy

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:41 pm

Doesn't "skinny poops" mean that the intestine is still inflamed, and therefore narrowed? I sometimes have the skinny poop thing ( when I am not at my best), but when I feel better, they are more normal in size and shape.

Leah

Post by **tex** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 7:34 pm

Leah wrote:Doesn't "skinny poops" mean that the intestine is still inflamed, and therefore narrowed?

Yes, usually.

Tex

brandy · Post by **brandy** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:22 pm

Or in my case the "skinny poops" means I've eaten too many of the GF Lays Natural potato chips.

solisspirit · Post by **solisspirit** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:38 pm

Well, I've had either skinny poop or watery stools for years. I would imagine this is because my intestines have never healed because I've never been on a diet because I didn't know what was wrong. And I still don't know, but at least I know by being on the diet I'm having less bathroom breaks, and more solid poop, even though it is narrow or not round at least in shape.

solisspirit · Post by **solisspirit** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:39 pm

And, I'm still trying to figure out what mast cells is all about. I tried looking it up but it didn't make a lot of sense to me.

Post by **tex** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:46 pm

Did you read the articles at the links listed in the post at the following link?

Mast Cells And Microscopic Colitis

Tex

solisspirit · Post by **solisspirit** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:14 pm

Yes, I tried to but I'm not sure I fully understand it.

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 10:30 pm

I hope this layperson summary helps

Mast Cell/Histamine

Is an inflammation reaction
Triggers can be to internal (food/drinks) or external (chemicals, pollen, etc) or activity linked ie when running or via a treatment (anaesthetic, hair dye treatments)

Symptoms can vary – depending on the histamine triggered (H1, H2, H3, H4) there is a chart that links the symptoms to the Hx

The basic type allergen symptoms
- increased mucus, (nose, cough)
- sneezing
- hives/rash
- asthma

Then up to BP / heart rate symptoms / affect hormones etc

If having H1 reactions – H1 antihistamine blockers can help
If having H2 reactions – H2 antihistamine blockers can help

Long story short in MC world, inflammation anywhere in the body is a toxin, when these toxins are present they will aggravate the bowel. If the bowel is inflamed or still healing, these toxins are very likely having a stronger impact.

If you are having symptoms and H1 blockers work, then you can work on eliminating/minimising the trigger.
(be it food, or contact with plant, or not having hair dyed)