Does it get worse before it gets better?

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Does it get worse before it gets better?

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I was wondering if any of you experienced worse symptoms of diarrhea before you started to feel better? I have removed the things that I know of so far that I am sensitive to (gluten,soy,eggs) and my D is worse than ever right now. Is something actually good happening that I am not aware of? What do you think? I know I have heard that if you have yeast overgrowth that you feel worse for awhile because you are starving out the yeast and that dying off process makes you feel worse for awhile. Anyway if anyone has an experience or thought to share on this I would appreciate it.

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Hi Kim,

I can't say it got worse, but it took quite a while to get better. I also took entocort, and I am maintaining with Lialda for the time being. Are you still eating milk products? Most of us here react to all milk products. Fresh fruit and uncooked veggies can also irritate during the healing phase.

I think more folks will chime in with their experiences, since we all heal differently. I hope you start to see good changes soon.

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Hi Kim,

I agree with Lori that it took longer than I would have thought. This disease is very unpredictable. Then, I started having good days mixed with bad. I agree also that dairy perpetuates the D.

My response to dairy is delayed by 12-24 hrs after eating it, for example.

Is there anything left in your diet that you suspect? Sometimes it's the most seemingly benign thing.

I wish you the best and I hope you find some relief soon.
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Kim,

In addition to what Lori and Nancy wrote, the immune system has sort of a built-in "quirk", in that if we avoid a food that causes us to react for a few days, and then reintroduce it (even in trace amounts), the reaction will usually be more severe than it was previously, because the re-exposure will cause a spike in antibody production, and this sudden antibody spike triggers a more aggressive immune system response than the steady-state response we experienced previously.

Many savvy allergists use this trick to ferret out minor food sensitivities. They advise a client to avoid a food for about 5 days, and then reintroduce it into their diet. If the food is a problem, the reaction will be so obvious that all doubt is removed.

IOW, you may be reacting to trace amounts of one or more food sensitivities in your diet that you have been trying to avoid.

Otherwise, in general, symptoms should not get worse before they get better.

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And unless you are totally carb free, then yeast would not be dying off. Don't think it is that. Sounds like something else you are eating is the culprit.

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I think I am being very careful about what I am eating, but since I am new at it I am sure I will learn a lot along the way. I could still be consuming something that is causing me to react, and of course even if I am eliminating the things I know are a problem, the other things I am eating may be problematic for me and I just don't know it yet. Kind of makes me want to go back and do more testing with Enterolab to find out what other food sensitivities I might have. Thanks for all your responses.
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If I were you, I'd do more Enterolab testing. It takes out the guess work. What was your # of units for dairy on Enterolab? Was it close to 10?
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ldubois7 wrote:If I were you, I'd do more Enterolab testing. It takes out the guess work. What was your # of units for dairy on Enterolab? Was it close to 10?
I went ahead and called Enterolab today to add the other testing. My dairy was 7 units.
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Even though you might not be allergic to dairy, it is very hard to digest if our colons are inflammed. I would quit dairy until you don't have D and then challenge it. Slowly. Just an idea.
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Kim,

Nancy is correct about the dairy. Everyone who has enteritis (intestinal inflammation) is lactose intolerant until the inflammation ends, because when the small intestine is inflamed, it cannot produce enough lactase enzyme to properly digest lactose, and the milk sugar ferments in our colon instead, causing gas, bloating, and D.

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