I made some cream of rice warm cereal. I started eating it about 5 hours after I woke up in the morning which meant that it should have been a "safe" time. I Had some the day before and just added a "touch" of honey and I seemed OK. The next morning I added some maple syrup. After a few bites...like only 3 - my intestines started making unbelievable noises. I threw the rest away. My question is HOW did my intestines react so quickly when it was barely down my esophagus???? This has happened before and I am so puzzled by it. Anyone got an answer for me....I am sure you do.
Secondly, does anyone find that if they get the least little bit tired they start suffering from nausea? This seems to be happening more frequently and I am not sure how to handle it....we can't always just STOP and rest. Geez!
All suggestions welcomed.
Jean
Intestinal rumbling
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Intestinal rumbling
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Did you have other symptoms after the maple syrup or just a grumbling belly? There are times when my belly grumbles that I know I am somehow off track, other times it seems to be just grumbles with no further issue. I picture my digestive track as working very hard to overcome injury yet get its work done in the meantime. My two most common belly sounds are deep grumbles and squeaky door sounds. MC leaves us with a lot to figure out.
One of my issues is exhaustion. I don't have nausea but the exhaustion comes on remarkably suddenly. For example, I was driving with my husband in the car. We were 3 miles from our destination and I pulled over and had him drive. When I have exhaustion, my need to sleep is almost immediate. If I push back against it, I feel fuzzy and incapable.
Secondly, does anyone find that if they get the least little bit tired they start suffering from nausea? This seems to be happening more frequently and I am not sure how to handle it....we can't always just STOP and rest. Geez!
One of my issues is exhaustion. I don't have nausea but the exhaustion comes on remarkably suddenly. For example, I was driving with my husband in the car. We were 3 miles from our destination and I pulled over and had him drive. When I have exhaustion, my need to sleep is almost immediate. If I push back against it, I feel fuzzy and incapable.
Hi Jean,
Assuming that those noises were associated with an adverse reaction (rather than just hunger or other normal GI sounds), a reaction that quickly can only be an IgE-based reaction. IOW, you are experiencing allergic symptoms to something, possibly to the fructose in the honey and/or maple syrup (or to some other ingredient in the cereal). But that's not a classic allergic reaction — it's an IgE-based intestinal reaction, triggered as the antigen entered either your mouth or your esophagus. You are not the only one here who has such rapid reactions.
An antihistamine should help to prevent the development of nausea (and it should also reduce the symptoms that you experienced with eating the cereal, but it probably wouldn't completely counteract the cereal reaction). You need to figure out what is causing the reaction in the cereal, and avoid it.
Tex
Assuming that those noises were associated with an adverse reaction (rather than just hunger or other normal GI sounds), a reaction that quickly can only be an IgE-based reaction. IOW, you are experiencing allergic symptoms to something, possibly to the fructose in the honey and/or maple syrup (or to some other ingredient in the cereal). But that's not a classic allergic reaction — it's an IgE-based intestinal reaction, triggered as the antigen entered either your mouth or your esophagus. You are not the only one here who has such rapid reactions.
An antihistamine should help to prevent the development of nausea (and it should also reduce the symptoms that you experienced with eating the cereal, but it probably wouldn't completely counteract the cereal reaction). You need to figure out what is causing the reaction in the cereal, and avoid it.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
No, this was not hunger rumbling....I am thinking it is fructose related, but it didn't happen with the honey only the maple syrup. I put more maple syrup on....and it was an immediate reaction...either that or I am going nutty which I sometimes think as figuring this stuff out is sure hard...what I think changes from day to day. Perhaps someone could explain this to me....why does ginger ale make me feel better and that has sugar...????
Everything will be ok in the end, if it's not ok, it's not the end.
No, this was not hunger rumbling....I am thinking it is fructose related, but it didn't happen with the honey only the maple syrup. I put more maple syrup on....and it was an immediate reaction...either that or I am going nutty which I sometimes think as figuring this stuff out is sure hard...what I think changes from day to day. Perhaps someone could explain this to me....why does ginger ale make me feel better and that has sugar...????
An antihistamine helps with nausea??? Tex - how do you know all this stuff?????
Anyway, thanks I will try it.
Jean
An antihistamine helps with nausea??? Tex - how do you know all this stuff?????
Anyway, thanks I will try it.
Jean
Everything will be ok in the end, if it's not ok, it's not the end.
Jean,
I react to most sugars, but it is dose-dependent. A little is OK, but more causes D.
Ginger ale contains ginger flavoring (an old home remedy used to relieve indigestion and nausea), and carbonated drinks tend to make us belch. One of my main issues when reacting was the inability to belch, and often it would lead to nausea. I found that drinking ginger ale would often allow me to belch and the crisis would be averted (and 7-Up or Sprite worked almost as well).
A lot of medications used for various purposes are actually antihistamines. Dramamine, for example (used to treat motion sickness/nausea), is an antihistamine. The tricyclic antidepressants, including amitriptyline (Elavil), use by some members here to help regulate their motility, are actually very powerful antihistamines. Their antihistamine efficacy is much more powerful than their antidepressant abilities, and this is almost surely the reason why they help to control MC symptoms.
Tex
I react to most sugars, but it is dose-dependent. A little is OK, but more causes D.
Ginger ale contains ginger flavoring (an old home remedy used to relieve indigestion and nausea), and carbonated drinks tend to make us belch. One of my main issues when reacting was the inability to belch, and often it would lead to nausea. I found that drinking ginger ale would often allow me to belch and the crisis would be averted (and 7-Up or Sprite worked almost as well).
A lot of medications used for various purposes are actually antihistamines. Dramamine, for example (used to treat motion sickness/nausea), is an antihistamine. The tricyclic antidepressants, including amitriptyline (Elavil), use by some members here to help regulate their motility, are actually very powerful antihistamines. Their antihistamine efficacy is much more powerful than their antidepressant abilities, and this is almost surely the reason why they help to control MC symptoms.
This is a very knowledgeable group, and some of that knowledge occasionally rubs off on me.Jean wrote:Tex - how do you know all this stuff?????
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Well, I tapped into Eastern medicine (MRT testing) today to explore why I have been miserable this past week. If you remember I wondered if the shrimp I ate bothered me and then I had difficulty with the maple syrup? Well, testing showed sensitivities to shell fish and sugar.....guess I am listening to my body more so those results were not a surprise and I had not communicated my recent issues! it also showed difficulty with chicken and rice which I am eating 2 times a day so no wonder I am having problems. So, I will avoid those until my system settles. The other thing I was told was that if I was going to eat white rice that I should rinse it thoroughly as she felt that powdery stuff on white rice was gluten based? I won't be eating it anytime soon as I reacted to it in the testing, but has anyone heard that before? For now she suggested I stick to quinoa.
Hoping this new info puts me a step closer to feeling better. Christmas is around the corner and I have people to see and places to go!! I can't wait to see my five grandchildren and I want to be fit to play!!!
Jean
Hoping this new info puts me a step closer to feeling better. Christmas is around the corner and I have people to see and places to go!! I can't wait to see my five grandchildren and I want to be fit to play!!!
Jean
Everything will be ok in the end, if it's not ok, it's not the end.
That was a statement made out of ignorance, because you can't rinse gluten off anything, let alone rice. Gluten is, by definition, glutinous, which means that it is very sticky, like glue.Jean wrote:The other thing I was told was that if I was going to eat white rice that I should rinse it thoroughly as she felt that powdery stuff on white rice was gluten based?
The powdery stuff on white rice is almost surely powdered rice, because white rice is made by milling the pericarp (shell) off brown rice. If the white powder were actually gluten, it would instantly turn into paste when the water hit it. The paste used for wallpaper is made from gluten, for example.
If you use quinoa, try to buy a kosher brand, because some of the non-kosher brands are cross-contaminated by gluten from barley or other glutinous grains.
I hope this works, so that you can sail through the holidays and remain as fit as a fiddle.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
It sounds like you are on the right track Jean. I hope these changes make a difference.
Yeah, that rice/gluten remark was pretty dumb, but it is a good idea to rinse rice. It reduces any arsenic and it also rinses away some of the excess starch.
As for quinoa, Go slow with it. It's actually a seed ( not a grain) and if you are still having issues, it could be a bit harsh in your gut. Try to stick with mostly safe proteins and very cooked veggies.
Leah
Yeah, that rice/gluten remark was pretty dumb, but it is a good idea to rinse rice. It reduces any arsenic and it also rinses away some of the excess starch.
As for quinoa, Go slow with it. It's actually a seed ( not a grain) and if you are still having issues, it could be a bit harsh in your gut. Try to stick with mostly safe proteins and very cooked veggies.
Leah
Now that makes me wonder about the validity of the rest of what she said....that was the only thing that made my ears perk up with "huh"?????????? I did get an acupuncture treatment also.....well the MRT testing was helpful. Should I tell her next time that it is not gluten.....I looked it up on line and saw that it was glutinous....maybe I misunderstood her.....I hope so!
Jean
Jean
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If I were in that situation, I wouldn't embarrass her, because she obviously had good intentions. Not being perfect only proves that she is human, and that has to be a good thing. 
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Jeane,
As tex said, The 'glutenous' liquid that comes off rice is not gluten
For those for whom rice is not an issue, that liquid is mega healing... It is anti inflammatory and helps heal leaky gut...
Gooey rice is one of my staples, it is my go to meal, when feeling poorly...
As tex said, The 'glutenous' liquid that comes off rice is not gluten
For those for whom rice is not an issue, that liquid is mega healing... It is anti inflammatory and helps heal leaky gut...
Gooey rice is one of my staples, it is my go to meal, when feeling poorly...
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
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"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
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Thanks for your suggestion Leah. Maybe for now I will stay away from quinoa. I get what you are telling me. I think I will stick to meats and vegetables. Every time I try something else (shrimp, maple syrup) I get my hand slapped by the Gods of digestion. 
I wish I could figure out something to eat in the morning. I get up early and about 10 am I am hungry. More exploring. The D is much improved and I am sure that is diet related. The nausea and fatigue come in waves ( big ones) and I haven't gone to work this week because of that.
I am a walker and I have dropped way back on that because of my energy level. I am missing the fun Christmas activities at school, but I also know the kids are higher than kites right now so maybe it's not all bad to miss it all.
I am trying the Antihistimine in the morning and at night and I have stopped all the vitamins for now. I am doing everything in my power to get better, but this last flare has kicked my butt! I so wish I had known this stuff 3 yrs ago when this started, but I listened to the Dr. and after this past year and three flares I realized I needed to run my own ship. Boy that makes me mad, but I guess no sense in crying over spilled milk....(isn't that a funny saying) - since most of us can't drink milk I think I will change it to "no crying over spilled water."
Jean
I wish I could figure out something to eat in the morning. I get up early and about 10 am I am hungry. More exploring. The D is much improved and I am sure that is diet related. The nausea and fatigue come in waves ( big ones) and I haven't gone to work this week because of that. I am a walker and I have dropped way back on that because of my energy level. I am missing the fun Christmas activities at school, but I also know the kids are higher than kites right now so maybe it's not all bad to miss it all.
I am trying the Antihistimine in the morning and at night and I have stopped all the vitamins for now. I am doing everything in my power to get better, but this last flare has kicked my butt! I so wish I had known this stuff 3 yrs ago when this started, but I listened to the Dr. and after this past year and three flares I realized I needed to run my own ship. Boy that makes me mad, but I guess no sense in crying over spilled milk....(isn't that a funny saying) - since most of us can't drink milk I think I will change it to "no crying over spilled water."
Jean
Everything will be ok in the end, if it's not ok, it's not the end.