More Evidence That Probiotics Don't Match The Hype

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More Evidence That Probiotics Don't Match The Hype

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Hi All,

As we are well aware, probiotics are promoted as a cure-all remedy for most any type of GI distress. And yet whenever their use is evaluated under controlled conditions (such as in a controlled trial where they are compared with a placebo), they typically don't seem to cut the mustard.

In a recent trial with babies suffering from colic, not only did the probiotic strain that was used fail to bring relief or improvement, but it actually seemed to make the suffering worse. Where have we heard that before? :lol:
After the researchers took into account other factors, such as age and the amount of crying at the study's start, the probiotic group cried or fussed about 49 minutes more a day than the placebo group.

The increased fussing occurred only in the formula-fed babies. The probiotic did not affect crying or fussing time if babies were entirely breast-fed.

There was also no improvement in sleep, maternal mental health, family or infant functioning in the probiotic group, she found.
Note that there were no apparent benefits from the use of the probiotic. And note that feeding the babies a proper diet (namely, their mother's milk) overcame the negative effects of the probiotic supplement. No surprises there — babies evolved to begin life digesting their mother's milk, not some probiotic supplement.

What puzzles me is why some people seem to feel that humans in any life stage have somehow evolved to benefit from probiotics. Why would that be the case? Looking back at the archaeological record, if the evidence is there, I'm overlooking it. In general, the less bacteria and other unnecessary debris in our diet, including pathogens, the healthier we are. :wink: Am I wrong?

More Evidence That Probiotics Won't Ease Baby's Colic

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It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Hi Tex

I have been playing with VS3 Probiotic for a month - and maybe it was all in my mind - I felt I was seeing some improvement. It's a pricey one. And it comes in a refrigerated pack. But I have also been extremely bloated on and off (existed before VSL3) so I have opted to discontinue it to get back to less ingestion of drugs, vitamins, etc. Simple is always better, and I know this. But I am also always willing to be my own guinea pig. The engineer in me is always trying to create a Design of Experiments for and with myself.

What I don't understand is how anyone can believe that the probiotic live strains can even survive the acidity of the stomach? Wouldn't that acid pretty much negate the effectiveness of the live strains - dead upon hitting it in the stomach.
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I am currently researching this topic, I think the issue is like what we have learnt via MC, what works well for one, can be a total failure (and mess) for other.
The one size fits all approach is not working.

Unless there has been specific testing to assess what issues are there, how can you treat the issue?

Via functional medicine testing of specific bacteria, microbes, fungai and their active level can provide the insight to know treatment approach. And post treatment testing can provide the answer of has it worked.
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Rich wrote:What I don't understand is how anyone can believe that the probiotic live strains can even survive the acidity of the stomach? Wouldn't that acid pretty much negate the effectiveness of the live strains - dead upon hitting it in the stomach.
Unless one is mighty low on gastric acid (taking a PPI, for example), yes, most bacteria should not be able to survive that trip. A few will survive, however. That's why VSL3 contains such a high bacteria count, in order to play the odds. IMO, the correct way to administer probiotics is from the other end. :lol: That's why I don't use probiotics. :wink:

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It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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