Gluten Obviously Poisons The Brain
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Gluten Obviously Poisons The Brain
How do I know? Just look around. It doesn't matter if you you're a bodybuilder, or you're a runner, or you go to yoga classes, or join a book club, or you adopt the latest diet, or whatever your passion might happen to be. Everyone pats you on the back and yells, "Go for it!" But if you dare to mention that you've chosen to follow a gluten-free diet without a celiac diagnosis, you're suddenly public enemy number one.
How can it be that such a simple thing could raise so much ire, and provoke so much wrath, in so many people. The news headlines are loaded with stories in which everyone from doctors to sanitation department workers hanging on the back of a garbage truck are given free access to the media to pontificate to their heart's content about the dangers and the sins of following a gluten-free diet without a celiac diagnosis. The fact that no one is holding a gun to their heads in order to force them to follow the same diet obviously has nothing to do with it. And it's equally clear that logic has nothing to do with it, since there's nothing inherently harmful or sinful about anyone cutting gluten out of their diet. Clearly, gluten must poison the brain. How else can we explain such irrational behavior?
Why does it matter to them so much that they feel obligated to promote a crusade to eradicate all free-lance gluten-free dieting, when it doesn't even affect them in any way? And for several years now, researchers have been working valiantly to "prove" that non-celiac gluten sensitivity doesn't even exist. And of course as we all know, if you cherry-pick the data, you can prove virtually anything you want, and these days, most researchers appear to be certified "cherry-pickers", because it gains them plenty of research money from funding organizations that have an agenda to promote.
Could this be part of the pathetic "tweeting mentality" that has arisen in the world today, where once-logically-thinking people now seem to believe that it is their duty to have an opinion on virtually everything that happens anywhere in the world today, and they actually believe that everyone else in the world is waiting anxiously to hear or read that opinion? And of course those who fall victim to the "tweeting mentality" syndrome quickly "learn" that all they have to do to solve the world's problems is to tweet about it or retweet it and they can go to bed at night confident that they have done their part to make the world better.
So I'm expecting a hashtag and retweet frenzy to occur any day now, as the geniuses who frequent twitter decide to stamp out the gluten-free movement once and for all. And if that doesn't work, it wouldn't surprise me to see some idiot legislator propose a bill to impose a fine and/or prison sentence (for repeat offenders) for anyone caught not eating gluten at every meal (without an official celiac diagnosis).
Is the world going nuts? Or is the problem simply that we are more likely to hear from the nuts. Unfortunately, reporters who work for the media, seem to love nuts, which is understandable, since radical ideas (no matter how distasteful or corrupt) tend to attract more viewers/readers. Logical, common-sense, every-day articles don't sell newspapers and magazines, or attract tv viewers. The stories that attract attention have to be controversial and/or off-beat almost to the point of absurdity.
But I digress. To get back to the point of this post, not since the days of Nazi Germany have so many people been persecuted for no logical reason. That kind of radical behavior can't possibly be categorized as normal. Either there is a lot of money to be made by opposing the gluten-free movement, or gluten poisons the brain, and causes irrational behavior. What other explanations could possibly exist for this phenomenon where seemingly-normal people turn into crusading zealots?
Tex
How can it be that such a simple thing could raise so much ire, and provoke so much wrath, in so many people. The news headlines are loaded with stories in which everyone from doctors to sanitation department workers hanging on the back of a garbage truck are given free access to the media to pontificate to their heart's content about the dangers and the sins of following a gluten-free diet without a celiac diagnosis. The fact that no one is holding a gun to their heads in order to force them to follow the same diet obviously has nothing to do with it. And it's equally clear that logic has nothing to do with it, since there's nothing inherently harmful or sinful about anyone cutting gluten out of their diet. Clearly, gluten must poison the brain. How else can we explain such irrational behavior?
Why does it matter to them so much that they feel obligated to promote a crusade to eradicate all free-lance gluten-free dieting, when it doesn't even affect them in any way? And for several years now, researchers have been working valiantly to "prove" that non-celiac gluten sensitivity doesn't even exist. And of course as we all know, if you cherry-pick the data, you can prove virtually anything you want, and these days, most researchers appear to be certified "cherry-pickers", because it gains them plenty of research money from funding organizations that have an agenda to promote.
Could this be part of the pathetic "tweeting mentality" that has arisen in the world today, where once-logically-thinking people now seem to believe that it is their duty to have an opinion on virtually everything that happens anywhere in the world today, and they actually believe that everyone else in the world is waiting anxiously to hear or read that opinion? And of course those who fall victim to the "tweeting mentality" syndrome quickly "learn" that all they have to do to solve the world's problems is to tweet about it or retweet it and they can go to bed at night confident that they have done their part to make the world better.
So I'm expecting a hashtag and retweet frenzy to occur any day now, as the geniuses who frequent twitter decide to stamp out the gluten-free movement once and for all. And if that doesn't work, it wouldn't surprise me to see some idiot legislator propose a bill to impose a fine and/or prison sentence (for repeat offenders) for anyone caught not eating gluten at every meal (without an official celiac diagnosis).
Is the world going nuts? Or is the problem simply that we are more likely to hear from the nuts. Unfortunately, reporters who work for the media, seem to love nuts, which is understandable, since radical ideas (no matter how distasteful or corrupt) tend to attract more viewers/readers. Logical, common-sense, every-day articles don't sell newspapers and magazines, or attract tv viewers. The stories that attract attention have to be controversial and/or off-beat almost to the point of absurdity.
But I digress. To get back to the point of this post, not since the days of Nazi Germany have so many people been persecuted for no logical reason. That kind of radical behavior can't possibly be categorized as normal. Either there is a lot of money to be made by opposing the gluten-free movement, or gluten poisons the brain, and causes irrational behavior. What other explanations could possibly exist for this phenomenon where seemingly-normal people turn into crusading zealots?
Tex
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I've noticed a lot of gluten-bashing lately as well. IMHO, the backlash is being financed by corporate food companies. Their business is being impacted by the tremendous growth of those choosing a gluten free diet. When in doubt, look for the money. I also think that large corporations, global cartels, billionaires are financing TV ads, newspaper ads, Internet "pseudo-news" in order to benefit their particular businesses. Makes me fed up with the gullibility of people who believe everything they read on the Internet without verification.
Sheila W
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I would agree with you Sheila, except that they are also making scads of money on their new overly processed gluten-free foods! I have found that the majority of g-f foods have something in them that I still can't eat so mostly I stick to plain and simple foods that I can make myself. When I go out to eat, I notice the eye roll when I say that I am gluten free. I get a lot of condescending attitude, but when I order food now, I explain what I need and how it must be prepared.
Even Garrison Keillor on Prairie Home Companion has made jokes about being gluten-free. I think it is the people who are doing it to lose weight that are giving people like us a bad name. They have half-baked (no pun was intended, but it works!) rules about when they will be g-f and when it doesn't suit them. If I were waitstaff in a restaurant, I might have a bad attitude about us gluten free types if I had no understanding of it. If someone told me they were g-f and couldn't have rolls, but then, ordered cake (not flourless cake, either), I might think they were just being ridiculous. I think that those are the types that Garrison Keillor is targeting, but we tend to get the fall-out. Gluten-free diets are chic right now. Guess we must be on the cutting edge of a trend.
Even Garrison Keillor on Prairie Home Companion has made jokes about being gluten-free. I think it is the people who are doing it to lose weight that are giving people like us a bad name. They have half-baked (no pun was intended, but it works!) rules about when they will be g-f and when it doesn't suit them. If I were waitstaff in a restaurant, I might have a bad attitude about us gluten free types if I had no understanding of it. If someone told me they were g-f and couldn't have rolls, but then, ordered cake (not flourless cake, either), I might think they were just being ridiculous. I think that those are the types that Garrison Keillor is targeting, but we tend to get the fall-out. Gluten-free diets are chic right now. Guess we must be on the cutting edge of a trend.
Jane
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I used to get excited to see the GF area grow in many grocery stores but I leave even more frustrated because there are always ingredients of some sort I can't have (soy, dairy) or others that are questionable. I continue to cook fresh. It does get annoying when others don't let up on what I do or don't eat. I like to be low key so it always amazes me why it always comes up. Do I want to decline the donut or slice of pizza going around the office? Not really but I know I would have DAYS of misery if I indulged. So I'm no health nut- I just am not a glutton for punishment (most of the time).
One doesn't have to sh**their pants too many times to figure it that out. It's beyond many people's comprehension to even begin to imagine what it's like to live with this dx. I understand that but have no tolerance for those who criticize what they have absolutely no experience dealing with. Ask any of my family members and they will attest to this "nuisance" disease that they deal with on a daily basis. My CC doesn't just effect me, it has a monumental impact on their daily lives too. If I'm having a bad MC day, the whole house feels it whether it be because I'm knocked down by fatigue, nausea, or D or if I choose to eat alone after everyone is finished with a great meal I prepared but couldn't eat. It's a family bond that's broken and a social disadvantage. I'm much better dealing with the psychological aspects of MC but have my fair share of bad days. So I may not have a celiac dx but being GF is what I choose in order to have a life worth living.
One doesn't have to sh**their pants too many times to figure it that out. It's beyond many people's comprehension to even begin to imagine what it's like to live with this dx. I understand that but have no tolerance for those who criticize what they have absolutely no experience dealing with. Ask any of my family members and they will attest to this "nuisance" disease that they deal with on a daily basis. My CC doesn't just effect me, it has a monumental impact on their daily lives too. If I'm having a bad MC day, the whole house feels it whether it be because I'm knocked down by fatigue, nausea, or D or if I choose to eat alone after everyone is finished with a great meal I prepared but couldn't eat. It's a family bond that's broken and a social disadvantage. I'm much better dealing with the psychological aspects of MC but have my fair share of bad days. So I may not have a celiac dx but being GF is what I choose in order to have a life worth living.
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2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
Why is it the people that are lactose intolerant don't get ridiculed? When I go to Red Robin restaurant the waitress asks if this is an allergy. I say yes and tell her dairy is an allergy too.
I am glad to see that on the show Big Bang Theory that Leonard is lactose intolerant. Wish one of them would go gluten free!
I am glad to see that on the show Big Bang Theory that Leonard is lactose intolerant. Wish one of them would go gluten free!
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Hi, Great post Tex. Following a g-f diet is against the norm. Look at the history of the food chart that was taught and the cultures that included a bread at every meal. I was lucky and while eating a great home cooked meal everyday as a family there was never a bread available. The only time flour was used was for the rolls for sandwiches during the holidays. Pasta was served once a month. The only fast food was donuts and sub-sandwiches. Today, how many people eat a good home cooked meal everyday? The only people I know are members of this site. Anytime, there is something that separates you form normal, people will be quick to show little sympathy because they do not understand. Just look at the numbers of the medical community that have no clue about diet and nutrition. It will take generations before following a g-f diet will be excepted as normal. The medical facts show that gulten effects the brain but it was also was the food education we were taught from our families and the educational system. Jon
Usually all they will do is roll their eyes, indicating that they think you are nuts, except for doctors who will say it out loud, claiming that it's all in your head. That's what the study that just got so much press concluded and I have seen it referenced with glee by people who are passionately anti-gluten free.gluten wrote:Anytime, there is something that separates you form normal, people will be quick to show little sympathy because they do not understand. Just look at the numbers of the medical community that have no clue about diet and nutrition. . Jon
Jean
I know the feeling. My husband is now gluten free ( for now) to see if his asthma will get better. It's hard to explain to people. Most of them just roll their eyes thinking that I am the one telling him to eat this way because i do. What can you do? I just choose not to care what others think.
There is an article in the SF Chronicle about how many bakers and pizza makers are having major gluten issues and how some have had to give up their careers. Others determined that if they just eat a little here and there, then the reaction when they do eat it or breathe it is less severe. i found that interesting.
Leah
There is an article in the SF Chronicle about how many bakers and pizza makers are having major gluten issues and how some have had to give up their careers. Others determined that if they just eat a little here and there, then the reaction when they do eat it or breathe it is less severe. i found that interesting.
Leah
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Leah, this has nothing to do with gluten but about what I heard on the People's Pharmacy on NPR yesterday. The discussion was about COPD and asthma. I was listening while I was driving and missed a large portion of the show but did hear about studies being done regarding the prevalence of asthma. I won't try to summarize, but it may be worthwhile to check the NPR archive for the Graedon's, People's Pharmacy show yesterday. They were discussing the reasons for increased asthma diagnoses and prophylactic anti-biotics.
Sheila W
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LIke you all have said I suspect that being gluten-free is considered just a fad and a nuisance to anyone now following the fad. I also tell people it's an allergy. Allergies they understand. Then I just tell them how I need it cooked.
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Did you see the Jimmy Kimmel skit where he interviewed people on the street in LA asking if they knew what gluten was? Most of them said they were on a gluten free diet or avoiding gluten (of course, bc that's apparently the fad in LA now), but none of them could describe what gluten was. Idiots like that fuel the backlash against the rest of us.
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Even tho I am new I am already really tired of the eyerolls.
I have been using the word allergic as more people seem to understand that. One lady at church said a little communion wafer couldn't possibly hurt and wondered why I need a special wafer. I said so it's ok to eat a little poison? I bought the gluten free wafers myself.
I have been using the word allergic as more people seem to understand that. One lady at church said a little communion wafer couldn't possibly hurt and wondered why I need a special wafer. I said so it's ok to eat a little poison? I bought the gluten free wafers myself.
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MC and UC 2014
in remission since June 1, 2014
We must all suffer one of two things: the pain of discipline or the pain of regret. ~Jim Rohn
I used to be naive and think if I just told people that I had to be very careful with my diet because a lot of foods would make me sick that they would just accept it, but I have learned differently. I once tried to tell my cousin that I was sorry but I could not attend what would have been a weekend long wedding event (Friday night through Sunday I believe) at a resort because there just would not be foods I could eat, she tried to explain to me how I was wrong and how there were all kinds of "healthy" foods being provided, listing things I could not possibly eat. Sigh.. Now, I no longer try to offer explanations and just say "sorry I can't come". It would be one thing if that woman had said something like "I didn't realize that such a small amount could cause problems" rather than disputing your own self-knowledge, especially since you were not requiring any special efforts on your part.nerdhume wrote:Even tho I am new I am already really tired of the eyerolls.
I have been using the word allergic as more people seem to understand that. One lady at church said a little communion wafer couldn't possibly hurt and wondered why I need a special wafer. I said so it's ok to eat a little poison? I bought the gluten free wafers myself.
Jean
I think that eating is such a social activity and communion for many at church is an extension of such and also considered sacred, that folks cannot wrap their brains around how foods can do damage. I have worked for at least one priest in the past who believed that a communion wafer was special enough that because it was blessed, the gluten was "magically" made "safe" for celiacs and all other sufferers of gluten intolerance. Most churches I have attended--no matter how small--now give alternative non-gluten wafers.
When eating with friends who start to comment on my inability to eat what they are eating, I just say, "Well, I enjoy sitting at the table with you and the conversation more than the food that I am or am not able to consume." That usually takes the pressure off of it. I do not frequent places I know are loaded with gluten and other foods I am sensitive to, as I usually know of some place that has something that is free of the ingredients I cannot have. The eye roll is usually present, but if I am with a friend I can usually ignore the waitperson (after all, their opinion of me is none of my business!) and enjoy my meal.
When eating with friends who start to comment on my inability to eat what they are eating, I just say, "Well, I enjoy sitting at the table with you and the conversation more than the food that I am or am not able to consume." That usually takes the pressure off of it. I do not frequent places I know are loaded with gluten and other foods I am sensitive to, as I usually know of some place that has something that is free of the ingredients I cannot have. The eye roll is usually present, but if I am with a friend I can usually ignore the waitperson (after all, their opinion of me is none of my business!) and enjoy my meal.
Jane
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"When it gets dark enough,you can see the stars."
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Tex,
I could not agree more with what you have stated and I too am sick of the persecution that is going on. Why did people have to adopt non-gluten as some kind of fad diet and we the people who cannot consume gluten and a lot more get the eye rolls and persecution. I, for one, and sick and tired of trying to explain to people so I just state that I am celiac and they accept that. Lying yes but it gets me through and not stressed.
Love, Maggie
I could not agree more with what you have stated and I too am sick of the persecution that is going on. Why did people have to adopt non-gluten as some kind of fad diet and we the people who cannot consume gluten and a lot more get the eye rolls and persecution. I, for one, and sick and tired of trying to explain to people so I just state that I am celiac and they accept that. Lying yes but it gets me through and not stressed.
Love, Maggie
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