Bad reaction to cheese (casein)???
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Bad reaction to cheese (casein)???
Hi everyone!
Having been GF for well over a year and DF since last November I ate a small piece of cheese yesterday at a BBQ. It was literally 0.5 inch cube of stilton. 3am this morning I start vomiting then by 6am the watery D starts. By about 10:30am I had recovered - with the help of lots of water and imodium! I have checked with everyone who attended the BBQ and I am the only one who has been ill. So my question is, was that a reaction to the protein in cow's milk (casein) that I reacted too? I tested positive for IgG levels back in November and I have been really strict with avoiding dairy since. Has anyone else ever reacted like that to one of their foods to which they are intolerant? It really felt like food poisoning!
I have otherwise remained really well although my asthma is still a problem. On that they think it is due to reflux and a barium swallow test showed I have significant reflux - I am waiting to go back to the referring consultant for diagnosis. It seems my gut is still creating issues!!!
Anne
Having been GF for well over a year and DF since last November I ate a small piece of cheese yesterday at a BBQ. It was literally 0.5 inch cube of stilton. 3am this morning I start vomiting then by 6am the watery D starts. By about 10:30am I had recovered - with the help of lots of water and imodium! I have checked with everyone who attended the BBQ and I am the only one who has been ill. So my question is, was that a reaction to the protein in cow's milk (casein) that I reacted too? I tested positive for IgG levels back in November and I have been really strict with avoiding dairy since. Has anyone else ever reacted like that to one of their foods to which they are intolerant? It really felt like food poisoning!
I have otherwise remained really well although my asthma is still a problem. On that they think it is due to reflux and a barium swallow test showed I have significant reflux - I am waiting to go back to the referring consultant for diagnosis. It seems my gut is still creating issues!!!
Anne
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Re: Bad reaction to cheese (casein)???
Hi Anne,fatbuster205 wrote:Hi everyone!
Having been GF for well over a year and DF since last November I ate a small piece of cheese yesterday at a BBQ. It was literally 0.5 inch cube of stilton. 3am this morning I start vomiting then by 6am the watery D starts. By about 10:30am I had recovered - with the help of lots of water and imodium! I have checked with everyone who attended the BBQ and I am the only one who has been ill. So my question is, was that a reaction to the protein in cow's milk (casein) that I reacted too? I tested positive for IgG levels back in November and I have been really strict with avoiding dairy since. Has anyone else ever reacted like that to one of their foods to which they are intolerant? It really felt like food poisoning!
Anne
Sorry you had such a reaction. Garlic was red on my MRT results and on two occasions, I have ingested it (both times in pickles) and had a similar reaction. Major doubling over stomach pain and then vomitting and by the next morning, I am fine.
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Thanks Cathy for replying so quickly! It is what I suspected but it is useful to know other experiences. I most definitely will not be trying that again!!! It is just so weird that a food can cause such havoc and then once it is expelled from the system everything is back to normal! I also think it serves as a timely reminder, particularly for those of us who have very few food intolerances compared to many others on here, that just because you are well does not mean you can necessarily reintroduce things! It is just not worth the risk!
Anne
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Hi Anne,
I'm sorry to hear that your reaction was so strong, but the fact that you recovered relatively quickly is evidence that your intestines have accrued a significant amount of healing, and that's certainly a good thing.
The situation with the asthma and reflux are bad news though. For most of us, when we eliminate our food sensitivities and do some healing, such issues largely diminish, or even disappear completely. Reflux is a common cause of asthma, so controlling the reflux may well minimize your asthma symptoms, also. Your doctor will almost surely try to convince you to use a proton pump inhibitor (PPI) to control the reflux. PPIs are a very common trigger for MC for many people, and they also cause other major health issues. There are much safer methods available for controlling reflux problems, than taking a PPI.
Have you tried natural methods to eliminate the reflux problems? If not, please read my first posted response in the thread at the following link. And the first 2 links in the first quote in that post describes how effectively vitamin D can eliminate (or at least reduce) reflux problems for many of us. These methods work. Please give them a try, rather than to risk your health on a PPI. And if you have an questions about any of this, please don't hesitate to ask.
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19987
Good luck with eliminating the reflux and asthma problems, and thank you for sharing this update. Such information is always helpful for others in a similar situation.
Tex
I'm sorry to hear that your reaction was so strong, but the fact that you recovered relatively quickly is evidence that your intestines have accrued a significant amount of healing, and that's certainly a good thing.
The situation with the asthma and reflux are bad news though. For most of us, when we eliminate our food sensitivities and do some healing, such issues largely diminish, or even disappear completely. Reflux is a common cause of asthma, so controlling the reflux may well minimize your asthma symptoms, also. Your doctor will almost surely try to convince you to use a proton pump inhibitor (PPI) to control the reflux. PPIs are a very common trigger for MC for many people, and they also cause other major health issues. There are much safer methods available for controlling reflux problems, than taking a PPI.
Have you tried natural methods to eliminate the reflux problems? If not, please read my first posted response in the thread at the following link. And the first 2 links in the first quote in that post describes how effectively vitamin D can eliminate (or at least reduce) reflux problems for many of us. These methods work. Please give them a try, rather than to risk your health on a PPI. And if you have an questions about any of this, please don't hesitate to ask.
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19987
Good luck with eliminating the reflux and asthma problems, and thank you for sharing this update. Such information is always helpful for others in a similar situation.
Tex
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Anne
in the past couple of years i have read some articles, where medical professors make the claim that Asthma is a symptom, not an illness or a condition. With everything I have learnt via "MC world", I see this as a valid claim. Asthma is inflammation in the lungs, and like MC /histamine /mast cells, if you can reduce/eliminate the triggers, the symptoms will improve.
Of note, since i have implemented and stuck with my MC eating plan, I have had no asthma symptoms. I have to keep remembering to check the use by date on the one inhaler I carry, as I never use it.
My childhood and early adult years was plagued with respiratory inflammation, infections including whooping cough etc.
As a child, I never learnt to swim as I was always sick in the summer with bronchial infections, ear infections.
in line with what tex said about how quickly you recovered, your gut has done some good healing. Maybe now the inflammation is more active in your lungs?
As you probably well know, triggers for asthma can be environmental, pollen, chemical, climate, etc etc not just food related.
and quite often a bit like MC, you can be ok with mild triggers, but have a bit more of an ingredient or a trigger and whammo, chronic symptoms start.
In line with what Tex has included the links about Vit D3, some recent reading has also shown that magnesium deficiency is a contributor to inflammation in the body, and the bodies ability to manage constant inflammation. (i have shared quite a bit of this information in the past fortnight)
I would avoid PPI's at all costs.
minimal lifestyle changes like laying on your left side, elevate the bed head with bricks, dont have big meals near bed time,
(keep a food diary and see if there is a pattern, ie eating near a hot drink might make the reflux worse)
supplement wise; Vit D3, magnesium, potassium can help the Reflux, and help the inflammation that is causing the asthma
if you are deficient in Vit D3 and/or magnesium, keep in mind it can take 8 weeks or more of high dose supplementation to correct the deficiency, be patient.
If you do go the supplement route, if you need some relief while the supps work their magic, using a H2 blocker will reduce the reflux in the meantime.
in the past couple of years i have read some articles, where medical professors make the claim that Asthma is a symptom, not an illness or a condition. With everything I have learnt via "MC world", I see this as a valid claim. Asthma is inflammation in the lungs, and like MC /histamine /mast cells, if you can reduce/eliminate the triggers, the symptoms will improve.
Of note, since i have implemented and stuck with my MC eating plan, I have had no asthma symptoms. I have to keep remembering to check the use by date on the one inhaler I carry, as I never use it.
My childhood and early adult years was plagued with respiratory inflammation, infections including whooping cough etc.
As a child, I never learnt to swim as I was always sick in the summer with bronchial infections, ear infections.
in line with what tex said about how quickly you recovered, your gut has done some good healing. Maybe now the inflammation is more active in your lungs?
As you probably well know, triggers for asthma can be environmental, pollen, chemical, climate, etc etc not just food related.
and quite often a bit like MC, you can be ok with mild triggers, but have a bit more of an ingredient or a trigger and whammo, chronic symptoms start.
In line with what Tex has included the links about Vit D3, some recent reading has also shown that magnesium deficiency is a contributor to inflammation in the body, and the bodies ability to manage constant inflammation. (i have shared quite a bit of this information in the past fortnight)
I would avoid PPI's at all costs.
minimal lifestyle changes like laying on your left side, elevate the bed head with bricks, dont have big meals near bed time,
(keep a food diary and see if there is a pattern, ie eating near a hot drink might make the reflux worse)
supplement wise; Vit D3, magnesium, potassium can help the Reflux, and help the inflammation that is causing the asthma
if you are deficient in Vit D3 and/or magnesium, keep in mind it can take 8 weeks or more of high dose supplementation to correct the deficiency, be patient.
If you do go the supplement route, if you need some relief while the supps work their magic, using a H2 blocker will reduce the reflux in the meantime.
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OK Latest update on my asthma! My GP has taken me off the 75mg therapeutic aspirin which I was put on some years back due to my inherited high cholesterol! He has a hunch that it might be aggravating my asthma and my stomach acid So here is hoping that over the next week or so my symptoms ease!! Had a very long conversation and discussed the article you sent the link to me - in my case he thinks there is a medical reason to high acid - apparently my family has an unusually high incidence of stomach/duodenal ulcers. Both parents plus other relatives of the first degree i.e. aunts/cousins etc! Hence I am on high dose PPI which fortunately do NOT appear to be aggravating my MC! Early days and a balancing act! I am so glad I was a gymnast in my youth! I have very god balance!!!!
Anne
Anne
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