I'm ready to add Vit. C to my supplements.
Where should I start as far as dosage? Should I try timed release? Is there a certain form that works best?
Thanks!
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Gabes-Apg
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Linda
as you have MTHFR etc Vit C it is a bit like Magnesium - take as much as you can until you get loose stools!!
at the moment, most days I am taking 2000mg.
I got mine in a powder, so I can spread the dosage over the day/night and minimise any loose stools.
I would try to take at least 1000mg, work gradually up to this dosage. When you have taken 1000mg for a couple of weeks see if you can increase it
Vit C will help histamine inflammation, Immune system / adrenals, clearing of toxins that would happen with MTHFR.
Keep in mind, as it will help clear toxins, you may have loose/smelly stools and extra urination when you start taking it. after a few weeks this settles down
hope this helps
PS - added later One Natural Allergy relief website talks about 10,000 mg PER DAY when allergies are bad, taking 1000mg every hour. and reiterates take as much as you can till the stools are too loose.
as you have MTHFR etc Vit C it is a bit like Magnesium - take as much as you can until you get loose stools!!
at the moment, most days I am taking 2000mg.
I got mine in a powder, so I can spread the dosage over the day/night and minimise any loose stools.
I would try to take at least 1000mg, work gradually up to this dosage. When you have taken 1000mg for a couple of weeks see if you can increase it
Vit C will help histamine inflammation, Immune system / adrenals, clearing of toxins that would happen with MTHFR.
Keep in mind, as it will help clear toxins, you may have loose/smelly stools and extra urination when you start taking it. after a few weeks this settles down
hope this helps
PS - added later One Natural Allergy relief website talks about 10,000 mg PER DAY when allergies are bad, taking 1000mg every hour. and reiterates take as much as you can till the stools are too loose.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Gabes: Is ascorbic acid ok, or should we take the ones that are released into the body over time? The latter is much more expensiveGabes-Apg wrote:Linda
as you have MTHFR etc Vit C it is a bit like Magnesium -
Thank you for sharing your knowledge about vitamins!
Lilja
Collagenous Colitis diagnosis in 2010
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
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Gabes-Apg
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Linda
fantastic you found naturopathic doc to help with the MTHFR, let me know what you find out and how you go! Once you do the right supplementation in the right forms, I am confident your wellness will improve.
My nutritionist has just set up to be able to do hair follicle analysis for Cell Wellbeing - first month trial cost is only $30
the initial report is available within 15 minutes! Sample report http://www.cell-wellbeing.com/wp-conten ... 9_2014.pdf
I will be doing this in 2 weeks time
I recently had a follow up blood test for Zinc and Copper so it will be interesting to see if a) months of supplement to clear toxins is working and b) if the results of the blood test align with the hair follicle results
The Methyl B12 causes me really bad nausea... I am still tweaking how and when i take it to minimise the impact of the Nausea
Lilja
my reading about Vit C thus far is that there is no clinical difference in the bioavailability and bioactivity of the different forms of Vit C. (good summary here http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/ss01/bioavailability.html )
Like anything in MC world, especially supplements, find one that does not have any additives or ingredients that would cause you any issues, that is affordable for your budget. Tablets or powders are good, as you can break up the tablet or use small amount of powder to start slow and work gradually up to full /high dose
Hope this helps
fantastic you found naturopathic doc to help with the MTHFR, let me know what you find out and how you go! Once you do the right supplementation in the right forms, I am confident your wellness will improve.
My nutritionist has just set up to be able to do hair follicle analysis for Cell Wellbeing - first month trial cost is only $30
the initial report is available within 15 minutes! Sample report http://www.cell-wellbeing.com/wp-conten ... 9_2014.pdf
I will be doing this in 2 weeks time
I recently had a follow up blood test for Zinc and Copper so it will be interesting to see if a) months of supplement to clear toxins is working and b) if the results of the blood test align with the hair follicle results
The Methyl B12 causes me really bad nausea... I am still tweaking how and when i take it to minimise the impact of the Nausea
Lilja
my reading about Vit C thus far is that there is no clinical difference in the bioavailability and bioactivity of the different forms of Vit C. (good summary here http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/ss01/bioavailability.html )
Like anything in MC world, especially supplements, find one that does not have any additives or ingredients that would cause you any issues, that is affordable for your budget. Tablets or powders are good, as you can break up the tablet or use small amount of powder to start slow and work gradually up to full /high dose
Hope this helps
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Ann,
I did find a powder form of Vit C (calcium ascorbate) on Amazon (NOW brand) that I thought I'd try. I remember reading someplace that the ascorbate is better, but I can't recall where....
Gabes,
The link didn't work for the different forms of Vit C from Oregon State. :( I'm still researching it.
I did find a powder form of Vit C (calcium ascorbate) on Amazon (NOW brand) that I thought I'd try. I remember reading someplace that the ascorbate is better, but I can't recall where....
Gabes,
The link didn't work for the different forms of Vit C from Oregon State. :( I'm still researching it.
Linda :)
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
Linda and Gabes,
I edited the post, and the link works correctly now. The reason it wouldn't work was due to the fact that the closing parenthesis in the sentence did not have a space between it and the link, and the php interpreters used by browsers cannot tell where a link begins and where it ends unless there is a space at each end. (IOW I just added a space between the link and the closing parenthesis).
The same applies to emoticons and other bulletin board code.
Tex
I edited the post, and the link works correctly now. The reason it wouldn't work was due to the fact that the closing parenthesis in the sentence did not have a space between it and the link, and the php interpreters used by browsers cannot tell where a link begins and where it ends unless there is a space at each end. (IOW I just added a space between the link and the closing parenthesis).
The same applies to emoticons and other bulletin board code.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Linda & Gabes:
Mineral ascorbates contain slightly less active vitamin C per 1000 mg than ascorbic acid and the minerals need to be uncoupled first before the body can use them. However, as the link Gabe posted shows, the differences are small. I would avoid potassium ascorbate for the reasons stated in the link. I have found that magnesium ascorbate can cause loose stools in a few clients, so I tend not to recommend it initially for that reason. If someone is deficient in magnesium, however, it can be a good choice. Food sources of magnsium are whole grains, nuts and seeds, and leafy greens. If you are avoiding these foods consider trying it as well. It can also help with cramps. Most MC patients are avoiding dairy so calcium ascorbate can help boost their intake of this much needed mineral.
If you are avoiding fruit, which is a good source of potassium, try using Morton's Lite Salt. It contains both potassium and sodium chloride which helps balance these two minerals.
Let us know if it works for you.
Ann
Mineral ascorbates contain slightly less active vitamin C per 1000 mg than ascorbic acid and the minerals need to be uncoupled first before the body can use them. However, as the link Gabe posted shows, the differences are small. I would avoid potassium ascorbate for the reasons stated in the link. I have found that magnesium ascorbate can cause loose stools in a few clients, so I tend not to recommend it initially for that reason. If someone is deficient in magnesium, however, it can be a good choice. Food sources of magnsium are whole grains, nuts and seeds, and leafy greens. If you are avoiding these foods consider trying it as well. It can also help with cramps. Most MC patients are avoiding dairy so calcium ascorbate can help boost their intake of this much needed mineral.
If you are avoiding fruit, which is a good source of potassium, try using Morton's Lite Salt. It contains both potassium and sodium chloride which helps balance these two minerals.
Let us know if it works for you.
Ann
P.S. Linda & Gabes:
My doctoral dissertation involved using serum amino acid levels to determine genetic defects in enzymes (this was before the human genome was mapped) and I am well versed in the methyl cycle. I also have two MTHFR defects as well as many other methylation defects. So if either of you need some help in that area please don't be afraid to ask!
Opps! My age is showing!
Ann
My doctoral dissertation involved using serum amino acid levels to determine genetic defects in enzymes (this was before the human genome was mapped) and I am well versed in the methyl cycle. I also have two MTHFR defects as well as many other methylation defects. So if either of you need some help in that area please don't be afraid to ask!
Opps! My age is showing!
Ann
Hi Henry,
Yes, large amounts of ascorbic acid can not only cause D, but it can also cause rectal bleeding. Just what constitutes a "large amount" varies by the individual of course.
Tex
Yes, large amounts of ascorbic acid can not only cause D, but it can also cause rectal bleeding. Just what constitutes a "large amount" varies by the individual of course.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Linda,
I haven't come across any information to indicate that calcium ascorbate might cause a bleeding problem. And even with the ascorbic acid, reducing the dose will usually resolve the problem. With ascorbic acid, the problem usually occurs only with massive doses (not 500 mg).
Tex
I haven't come across any information to indicate that calcium ascorbate might cause a bleeding problem. And even with the ascorbic acid, reducing the dose will usually resolve the problem. With ascorbic acid, the problem usually occurs only with massive doses (not 500 mg).
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.