Polly, I See That You Have A New Neighbor, Also
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Polly, I See That You Have A New Neighbor, Also
Hi Polly,
I notice that the most recently-diagnosed Ebola patient has been moved to Maryland for treatment. I have no idea how close that hospital is to where you live and work, but it struck me as extremely odd that within about a week or 2 after the guy who pretends to be the head of the CDC told us all how difficult it is to catch Ebola, and bragged repeatedly about how the CDC was on top of the problem, both of us may now have the risk of Ebola in our own neighborhoods, because (among many other mistakes and oversights) the CDC apparently never told the nurse not to do any air travel. Well doh!
I live roughly 10 or 12 miles from the small city of Belton, TX, where 3 schools are currently closed because a member of a local family sat within a few feet of that nurse during a flight. I wonder how many other cities in this country are now in the same situation, because of those flights.
It appears that the hospital in Dallas was woefully incapable of dealing with the disease. I hope that the hospital in Maryland has all their ducks in a row, because it appears than similar to treating MC, if a single duck is out of line, trouble is virtually guaranteed.
Take care. It's suddenly a much more dangerous world, especially for health care professionals.
Love,
Tex
I notice that the most recently-diagnosed Ebola patient has been moved to Maryland for treatment. I have no idea how close that hospital is to where you live and work, but it struck me as extremely odd that within about a week or 2 after the guy who pretends to be the head of the CDC told us all how difficult it is to catch Ebola, and bragged repeatedly about how the CDC was on top of the problem, both of us may now have the risk of Ebola in our own neighborhoods, because (among many other mistakes and oversights) the CDC apparently never told the nurse not to do any air travel. Well doh!
I live roughly 10 or 12 miles from the small city of Belton, TX, where 3 schools are currently closed because a member of a local family sat within a few feet of that nurse during a flight. I wonder how many other cities in this country are now in the same situation, because of those flights.
It appears that the hospital in Dallas was woefully incapable of dealing with the disease. I hope that the hospital in Maryland has all their ducks in a row, because it appears than similar to treating MC, if a single duck is out of line, trouble is virtually guaranteed.
Take care. It's suddenly a much more dangerous world, especially for health care professionals.
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
I hope that the data collection for that study is completed, so that you won't need to return for a while.
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Tex
I have been watching the Ebola stories with interest.
Especially since the ?mis-handling of patient and the treating staff at the hospital in Texas.
The aussie foreign minister will not fund/support sending Aussie doctors and nurses to west Africa, because Australia is not set up to handle an outbreak/ treat those people if they contract the Ebola.
I hope the recent hiccups are enough for all concerned, authorities, hospitals, decision makers etc to take it seriously.
I have been watching the Ebola stories with interest.
Especially since the ?mis-handling of patient and the treating staff at the hospital in Texas.
The aussie foreign minister will not fund/support sending Aussie doctors and nurses to west Africa, because Australia is not set up to handle an outbreak/ treat those people if they contract the Ebola.
I hope the recent hiccups are enough for all concerned, authorities, hospitals, decision makers etc to take it seriously.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
The news today is mind-boggling! A lab worker who handled specimens is now quarantined on a cruise! A woman threw up on a bus at the Pentagon! The current victim went wedding planning in Ohio, exposing all her friends and family!!
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola- ... an-n227971
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola- ... an-n227971
1987 Mononucleosis (EBV)
2004 Hypomyopathic Dermatomyositis
2009 Lymphocytic Colitis
2010 GF/DF/SF Diet
2014 Low Dose Naltrexone
2004 Hypomyopathic Dermatomyositis
2009 Lymphocytic Colitis
2010 GF/DF/SF Diet
2014 Low Dose Naltrexone
The protocols keep changing!
I've sat on conference calls for medical providers that are maxing out with 6,000+ callers. The recommendations are not straightforward. The nurses orgs are going crazy!!
I've sat on conference calls for medical providers that are maxing out with 6,000+ callers. The recommendations are not straightforward. The nurses orgs are going crazy!!
1987 Mononucleosis (EBV)
2004 Hypomyopathic Dermatomyositis
2009 Lymphocytic Colitis
2010 GF/DF/SF Diet
2014 Low Dose Naltrexone
2004 Hypomyopathic Dermatomyositis
2009 Lymphocytic Colitis
2010 GF/DF/SF Diet
2014 Low Dose Naltrexone
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Quite sad, and scary.
I have a recollection that back in late July, on aussie media, when the doctor and nurse with Ebola were transferred from Africa to the USA, some guy from the CDC stood up, in front of the presidential emblem and said that 'USA has all the right protocols and infrastructure to handle Ebola patients'. Or something to that effect.
Was he relying on the magic drug to fix all the mistakes and stuff ups?? The magic drug that there are now no more supplies of?
I have a recollection that back in late July, on aussie media, when the doctor and nurse with Ebola were transferred from Africa to the USA, some guy from the CDC stood up, in front of the presidential emblem and said that 'USA has all the right protocols and infrastructure to handle Ebola patients'. Or something to that effect.
Was he relying on the magic drug to fix all the mistakes and stuff ups?? The magic drug that there are now no more supplies of?
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
The issue is the personal protective equipment for hospital staff. We thought the standard issue was protective, but the 2 infected nurses proved otherwise. Now nurses are clamoring for Hazmat suits that are in short supply!
1987 Mononucleosis (EBV)
2004 Hypomyopathic Dermatomyositis
2009 Lymphocytic Colitis
2010 GF/DF/SF Diet
2014 Low Dose Naltrexone
2004 Hypomyopathic Dermatomyositis
2009 Lymphocytic Colitis
2010 GF/DF/SF Diet
2014 Low Dose Naltrexone
Gabes wrote:because Australia is not set up to handle an outbreak/ treat those people if they contract the Ebola.
The U. S. is not set up to handle an outbreak either, we are just unlucky enough to have a government and government regulatory agencies run by people who actually believe that they can bluff their way through any situation that arises because they have used that tactic so successfully in the past. Unfortunately it doesn't work for Ebola. With Ebola, you have to actually know what you are doing. The guy you refer to seems to be doing a lot less talking these days, because he's too busy backpedaling.Gabes wrote:I have a recollection that back in late July, on aussie media, when the doctor and nurse with Ebola were transferred from Africa to the USA, some guy from the CDC stood up, in front of the presidential emblem and said that 'USA has all the right protocols and infrastructure to handle Ebola patients'. Or something to that effect.
Was he relying on the magic drug to fix all the mistakes and stuff ups?? The magic drug that there are now no more supplies of?
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Obama just appointed an Ebola Czar. He's a political "fixer" with absolutely no background in public health or healthcare!! He'll be in charge of smoke and mirrors!
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/ro ... d=48276878
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/18/us/ro ... d=48276878
1987 Mononucleosis (EBV)
2004 Hypomyopathic Dermatomyositis
2009 Lymphocytic Colitis
2010 GF/DF/SF Diet
2014 Low Dose Naltrexone
2004 Hypomyopathic Dermatomyositis
2009 Lymphocytic Colitis
2010 GF/DF/SF Diet
2014 Low Dose Naltrexone
I guess I spoke too soon. With an expert like that in charge, we've got it made now.
Damage control regarding public relations has always been a high priority item with the government, and the current administration has perfected it until it's almost an art form, but it doesn't seem to be working so well lately. I wonder why?
Tex
Damage control regarding public relations has always been a high priority item with the government, and the current administration has perfected it until it's almost an art form, but it doesn't seem to be working so well lately. I wonder why?
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Tex and All!
Yes, I believe they took that nurse to NIH, which is nearer to Zizzle than to me.
One issue is that the CDC budget has been essentially slashed in half since 2008, especially the funds that were earmarked for local health infrastructure/rapid response. Everyone is always anxious to cut budgets, until they experience proof firsthand of why those funds are needed. Sigh.
Ebola has been around for at least 30 years, but of course, this is the first time (that we know of) that it has come to the U.S. It appears to be spread like AIDS (bloodborn), so it is not too contagious, luckily. And to put things in perspective, don't forget that 50,000 Americans die from the flu each year, and another 50,000 from prescribed medication-related problems.
I am guessing that the 60% death rate from ebola in Africa has a lot to do with third world health care and customs. I am betting that we will get our act together and see much better results here. A vaccine has been proven effective in monkeys and has started human trials. It may be ready for the public in a year.
To me the biggest "blunder" so far was allowing the nurse with the temp of 99.6 to get on a plane - because she didn't meet the definition of fever - which is 100.4. The fact that she had been in contact with the original ebola patient should trump everything!
A Fox reporter a few days ago (I forget his name) accused the media of overreacting/fear-mongering/sensationalizing with regard to ebola. His report was excellent.....he did his homework and presented an accurate ("fair and balanced" - LOL) report of the situation. I wish there were more like him.
Good to hear from everyone.
Love,
Polly
Yes, I believe they took that nurse to NIH, which is nearer to Zizzle than to me.
One issue is that the CDC budget has been essentially slashed in half since 2008, especially the funds that were earmarked for local health infrastructure/rapid response. Everyone is always anxious to cut budgets, until they experience proof firsthand of why those funds are needed. Sigh.
Ebola has been around for at least 30 years, but of course, this is the first time (that we know of) that it has come to the U.S. It appears to be spread like AIDS (bloodborn), so it is not too contagious, luckily. And to put things in perspective, don't forget that 50,000 Americans die from the flu each year, and another 50,000 from prescribed medication-related problems.
I am guessing that the 60% death rate from ebola in Africa has a lot to do with third world health care and customs. I am betting that we will get our act together and see much better results here. A vaccine has been proven effective in monkeys and has started human trials. It may be ready for the public in a year.
To me the biggest "blunder" so far was allowing the nurse with the temp of 99.6 to get on a plane - because she didn't meet the definition of fever - which is 100.4. The fact that she had been in contact with the original ebola patient should trump everything!
A Fox reporter a few days ago (I forget his name) accused the media of overreacting/fear-mongering/sensationalizing with regard to ebola. His report was excellent.....he did his homework and presented an accurate ("fair and balanced" - LOL) report of the situation. I wish there were more like him.
Good to hear from everyone.
Love,
Polly
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