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Hi, Tex. Glad you're feeling better! I have a friend with a family history of kidney stones and he gets them frequently...not fun!

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Gabes,

I took CoQ10 for a while when I was taking a statin a few years ago, but no, I'm not taking it now. I may have to consider that though, if my kidneys don't straighten out and fly right again after this is over.


So far so good. I'll keep pretending that it's already passed, and all is well, until I have reason to believe otherwise. :grin:

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It's always something! :roll: Praying that it has passed and you feel better soon.

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Irony or Coincidence??
looking up something for myself today, I read this. very likely that you already know this....
Dont have any science that proves the statements but it might give you some starting points as to why your calcium went a bit haywire...
(not saying that you have excess copper, if there has been increased stress it would explain the build up of calcium)

The Calcium Brake
Calcium lines the cell membrane. A low calcium level makes the cell membranes more permeable and increases the metabolism. A high calcium level reduces membrane permeability, slowing all transport in and out of the cell and thereby reducing the rate of metabolism.
The Calcium Shell
Calcium retention can become so high that it creates the calcium shell phenomenon as the ultimate defense against stress. These minerals prevent the slow oxidizer from suffering any severe acute stresses by acting as a buffer and reducing the adrenal response to stress. The emotional response is dulled, and the mind slows down.
As calcium builds up in the tissues, as with copper, it becomes bio-unavailable for normal body functions. Many of the effects of copper toxicity are symptoms of deficiency of copper and calcium as they become less and less usable in the body while building up to toxic levels.
Magnesium
Magnesium is the other primary braking mineral which accumulates as the oxidation rate slows down. It is in involved in more energy producing reactions than possibly any other mineral. It is the first nutrient to be lost during stress.

Dropping the magnesium levels will quickly increase the metabolism and help mobilize the body to cope with stress. But if magnesium is too low, the system will burn out due to over-stimulation. Magnesium rises as the braking system becomes more dominant in slow oxidation.

Calcium tends to rise faster in the more exhausted person. This can create a high calcium and magnesium ratio which will disturb carbohydrate metabolism and lead to hyperinsulinism and hypoglycemia.

http://www.tvernonlac.com/copper-toxicity.html
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So sorry to hear of the problem Tex and do hope it passes much easier than you expect. It just seems that we have a tendency to develop some problems that others only read about. Glad to hear that you are feeling better.

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Tex,

I hope you're doing better!

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Gabes wrote:Calcium tends to rise faster in the more exhausted person. This can create a high calcium and magnesium ratio which will disturb carbohydrate metabolism and lead to hyperinsulinism and hypoglycemia.
I seem to have the opposite problem. My glucose level was 125 on the blood tests done Saturday morning. I don't recall ever seeing it over 100. And that was a fasting test result, because I didn't feel like eating anything that morning.


Thanks everyone, I appreciate your concern.

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If you have high normal range of calcium along with low vitwmin d, you should have your parathyroid levels checked. Normal ranges for calcium can run as high as 10.1-10.3 however this is an all ages range. No adult should have calcium in their 10's. Hoping this was a one time event for you Tex. It's no fun dealing with kidney stones.
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Hi Linda,

Well, my calcium level was 10.0, and my vitamin D level was 58 (not exactly low, just much lower than I expected). I plan to set up a followup appointment, so I'll try to remember to ask about a parathyroid test.

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Tex, I am using a nasal spray for calcium so it doesn't go through my gut. The doc prescribed it specifically because of my MC, and my need for it due to confirmed osteoporosis.

Good that it passed out of your kidney without surgery. I have seen lithotripter treatment work wonders in breaking up those pesky stones.

Be better soon!
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Tex,
I agree with Polly, too! MC is stressful enough, and dealing with all the other issues that go wrong in our bodies just isn't fair!
I hope you feel better tomorrow!

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Tex,

Hope it is passed soon, and you are doing better!

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Glad you're doing better Tex. I have a co-worker who gets kidney stones every 6-7 months (they're looking into why this is) and I have seen her literally fall down to the ground in agony when they are passing. She had a full hysterectomy and she said the pain after that surgery was a walk in the park compared to the pain of the stones. I hope this is your one and only experience with them!
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Well, I keep waiting for something similar to what Cathy described to happen, but so far, nothing else has happened. :shrug:

It's probably waiting for me to relax and forget about it, so that it can catch me by surprise. :lol:

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Post by Sheila »

I'm so sorry you've been suffering with kidney stones, Tex. Thank God I've never had one although I can tell you that gallstones are no walk in the park. After experiencing that pain, I don't want to ever get a kidney stone.

I hope you can figure out what caused it.

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