I'm not sure what the percentage might be, but a heck of a lot of us would have been candidates for being shot, if we had adopted that standard, and I have a hunch that the percentage of members who would qualify, is rather high.
Tex
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Connie,
I'm not sure what the percentage might be, but a heck of a lot of us would have been candidates for being shot, if we had adopted that standard, and I have a hunch that the percentage of members who would qualify, is rather high.
Tex
I'm not sure what the percentage might be, but a heck of a lot of us would have been candidates for being shot, if we had adopted that standard, and I have a hunch that the percentage of members who would qualify, is rather high.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Well, it's a sign that something is going on, (that probably shouldn't be going on), but I'm not sure exactly how it ranks, in the hierarchy of symptoms. 
Tex
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
I've had D since May, but from November only loose stools, as I'm on Entocort.
The reason why I'm on this thread, is that I searched "poop and floating", since I discovered that my poop floated the last time I visited the bathroom. That has never happened after I was diagnosed with CC in 2010...
I don't know why, but I felt kind of proud when I turned (as one always do, given the D problem) and saw that it was floating, such a rare sight - I could actually see it. I was so astonished that I stood there for a long time, waiting for it to sink, which it didn't.
With D since May, and loose stools only the last couple of weeks, and they have always sunk and been invisible,- one has to wonder why this one floated.
PS: It is not normal to be that preoccupied with poop and how they look like and behave, but we are not "normal".
Lilja
The reason why I'm on this thread, is that I searched "poop and floating", since I discovered that my poop floated the last time I visited the bathroom. That has never happened after I was diagnosed with CC in 2010...
I don't know why, but I felt kind of proud when I turned (as one always do, given the D problem) and saw that it was floating, such a rare sight - I could actually see it. I was so astonished that I stood there for a long time, waiting for it to sink, which it didn't.
With D since May, and loose stools only the last couple of weeks, and they have always sunk and been invisible,- one has to wonder why this one floated.
PS: It is not normal to be that preoccupied with poop and how they look like and behave, but we are not "normal".
Lilja
Collagenous Colitis diagnosis in 2010
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
Lilja- I am a mom and also a horsewoman. My daily duties including cleaning up in my stable- two full wheelbarrows of perfectly formed dark green lumps of herbivore poop- and walking my large dog... and also, when she yells from the bathroom, wiping my daughter's butt. So I don't just have to deal with my own poop- but with a lot of other poop too. And sometimes I feel so jealous. Standing there awkwardly shivering waiting for my dog to shi*... and the big hot turds are sinking into the snow... and I'm thinking... "Seriously Sarah? You are jealous of your dog's shi*? What the heck has become of your life!?"
Lilja,
It floated probably because your inflammation level is declining and so your digestion is improving.
Tex
It floated probably because your inflammation level is declining and so your digestion is improving.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Wow, Tex... After reading your comment, I promptly decided to think that you're right!tex wrote:Lilja,
It floated probably because your inflammation level is declining and so your digestion is improving.
Tex
As we say in my country: Belief (or faith, I have never understood the difference) can move mountains.
Lilja
Collagenous Colitis diagnosis in 2010
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
Sarah,
As you are surely well aware, since the beginning of the neolithic period, farmers and ranchers have to a large degree judged the health of their animals by the appearance of their feces. There are other important indicators of course, but fecal texture, consistency, and conformity has always been an obvious early warning system when something is amiss. And so I'm sure that you would immediately notice any signs in your horses' manure that they were having problems, and that's why we automatically learn to look for such things.
But when we go to see our doctor, does she or he ever inquire about the quality of our BMs? Nope — only if we bring it up first, and even then the information doesn't seem to mean much to them. It seems that they can only relate to the results of sophisticated tests. Traditional signs of obvious health issues don't even seem to be on their radar.
Tex
As you are surely well aware, since the beginning of the neolithic period, farmers and ranchers have to a large degree judged the health of their animals by the appearance of their feces. There are other important indicators of course, but fecal texture, consistency, and conformity has always been an obvious early warning system when something is amiss. And so I'm sure that you would immediately notice any signs in your horses' manure that they were having problems, and that's why we automatically learn to look for such things.
But when we go to see our doctor, does she or he ever inquire about the quality of our BMs? Nope — only if we bring it up first, and even then the information doesn't seem to mean much to them. It seems that they can only relate to the results of sophisticated tests. Traditional signs of obvious health issues don't even seem to be on their radar.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
It struck me the other day, that doctors never touch our bodies any more. Way back, like 40 years ago, the doctor would tap our stomach, our ribs, feel our thyroid, etc. Today they sit with their noses down into the computer screen, often with their back towards us, just asking questions while typing their computer and printing out test-sheets and recipes.tex wrote:Sarah,
But when we go to see our doctor, does she or he ever inquire about the quality of our BMs? Nope — only if we bring it up first, and even then the information doesn't seem to mean much to them. It seems that they can only relate to the results of sophisticated tests. Traditional signs of obvious health issues don't even seem to be on their radar.
Tex
My GP jumped with joy the other day, when I had a lump filled with S. aureus, and I said to him "You jump with joy, is it because you kan use the knife?" (we have no respect of authorities). He laughed and said "This is rare, that I get to cut in a patient", and he was thrilled! Goes to show that the profession of being a GP has become so limited and boring, and mostly consists of paperwork.
I apologize for my bad English, I type while thinking (in Norwegian).
Lilja
Collagenous Colitis diagnosis in 2010
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
Lilja,
Your English is very good. And you are quite correct — I too can remember the days when doctors diagnosed patients mostly by using their own skills and training, rather than relying on machines to make the diagnosis for them. These days some of them have almost reached the point where they could be replaced by a trained monkey who knows how to order tests and use a computer.
Tex
Your English is very good. And you are quite correct — I too can remember the days when doctors diagnosed patients mostly by using their own skills and training, rather than relying on machines to make the diagnosis for them. These days some of them have almost reached the point where they could be replaced by a trained monkey who knows how to order tests and use a computer.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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When tests that can be only administered by doctors trump patient's reports of their own symptoms it gives the power to doctors to define whose sick and who isn't. My view is that it becomes particularly absurd when risk factors become worrisome illnesses, like "high" cholesterol and severe symptoms, like a person having D 20 or more times a day, is discounted and treated like a minor inconvenience, because the tests don't show anything "serious" to be wrong. A patient's report of their own symptoms should be the primary driving force behind examinations, testing, diagnosis and treatment.
This topic fascinates me. Specifically what fascinates me is how signs, those things determined by doctors, came to trump symptoms, those things determined by patients, as the primary indicator of illness. If I could get my act together I would write a book on the topic. It's not just about science and progress, but about power and who holds it.
Jean
This topic fascinates me. Specifically what fascinates me is how signs, those things determined by doctors, came to trump symptoms, those things determined by patients, as the primary indicator of illness. If I could get my act together I would write a book on the topic. It's not just about science and progress, but about power and who holds it.
Jean
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Despite the awful diagnosis, my new doctor actually listened to me describe very amorphous symptoms and complaints. He picked up my hands and didn't believe my explanation of benign osteo arthritis nodules on my fingers. He spent about 20 minutes actually examining me. What a shock!!! He took a thorough history as well and then actually thought about me and put all of the information together. I know why I feel like Hell and I'm very happy I found this gem of an internist.
Dr. Dharia chooses patients who will take care of themselves properly. He doesn't want to treat any patients who are trouble makers or not nice people. Most patients are referred by other patients. I say, good for him.
I love this "poop" discussion. LOL. Mine sink probably because of the lack of fiber. As long as it is Norman, I don't care what it does once it leaves home.
Sheila W
Dr. Dharia chooses patients who will take care of themselves properly. He doesn't want to treat any patients who are trouble makers or not nice people. Most patients are referred by other patients. I say, good for him.
I love this "poop" discussion. LOL. Mine sink probably because of the lack of fiber. As long as it is Norman, I don't care what it does once it leaves home.
Sheila W
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A person who never made a mistake never tried something new. Einstein