Good morning!
The latest "Nutrition Action" newsletter has some interesting info on probiotics. It cites some studies that looked at the effectiveness of specific probiotics in certain conditions. Here is what has been studied:
*for IBS - Bifidobacterium infantis 35624 (Align is worth a try)
*for constipation - Bifidobacterium lactis DN-173 010 (Activia showed a modest benefit)
*for travelers diarrhea - Saccharomyces boulardii (Florastor showed little to no benefit)
*for vaginosis - Lactobacillus rhamnosus GR-1 and Lactobacillus reuteri RC-14 (Femdophilus or RepHresh Pro-B along with an antibiotic may help)
*for defense against colds and flu - Lactobacillus casei DN-114 001 (2 bottles of Dan Activ/day may shorten a cold by one day)
*for diarrhea from antibiotics - Saccharomyces boulardii (adults who took Florastor were 52% less likely to have diarrhea than if they took a placebo)
As you can see, the results were modest..... except in the case of D from antibiotics. Since S. boulardii is a yeast and not a bacterium, it isn't killed by antibiotics. They also found that regular yogurt was not effective against D from antibiotics.
All of this is still in the infancy stages but at least it is getting some attention.
Polly
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Hi Polly,
At least there's some research being done. A little progress is better than none at all. Thanks for the update.
Love,
Tex
At least there's some research being done. A little progress is better than none at all. Thanks for the update.
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Very interesting...
I had good results with SBBoullardi,
wonder if that links in that doxy was key trigger for MC?? Mmmmm
I saw an article from the gut health conference thing that discussed similar topic, whether certain pro-biotics can help or hinder candida, sibo etc. that basically they each need to be treated differently...
Let's hope good research continues....
I had good results with SBBoullardi,
wonder if that links in that doxy was key trigger for MC?? Mmmmm
I saw an article from the gut health conference thing that discussed similar topic, whether certain pro-biotics can help or hinder candida, sibo etc. that basically they each need to be treated differently...
Let's hope good research continues....
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Hi Tex,
You are welcome!
I agree - it is good to see even a little progress. You and I agree that much work needs to be done before we can successfully identify an individual's resident gut bacteria, let alone to be able to know which strains may need to be supplemented and how to go about that.
Hiya Gabes,
"Links in that doxy" - what does that refer to? As you know, I believe that doxycycline was responsible for bringing my MC on. Are you still on the S. boulardi?
One piece of good news - major brand probiotics have been tested and found to contain what's supposed to be in them, and at the appropriate levels.
Love,
Polly
You are welcome!
I agree - it is good to see even a little progress. You and I agree that much work needs to be done before we can successfully identify an individual's resident gut bacteria, let alone to be able to know which strains may need to be supplemented and how to go about that.
Hiya Gabes,
"Links in that doxy" - what does that refer to? As you know, I believe that doxycycline was responsible for bringing my MC on. Are you still on the S. boulardi?
One piece of good news - major brand probiotics have been tested and found to contain what's supposed to be in them, and at the appropriate levels.
Love,
Polly
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
Leaky Gut
I was just reading an article from a local doctor about the subject of Leaky Gut, gluten, probiotics, etc.
She is encouraging the use of probiotics. She is also very much into a lot of supplements. I was also reading on this forum quite a bit about not taking supplements when you are trying to get a flare under control. I am not too sure how much she understands about MC. I have been taking way too many supplements and have just decided to quit taking the probiotics and perhaps also the supplements until things quiet down. I also am on a lot of prescription drugs which I have to keep taking.
http://www.trinityintegrativemedicine.c ... Gluten.pdf
Jean
She is encouraging the use of probiotics. She is also very much into a lot of supplements. I was also reading on this forum quite a bit about not taking supplements when you are trying to get a flare under control. I am not too sure how much she understands about MC. I have been taking way too many supplements and have just decided to quit taking the probiotics and perhaps also the supplements until things quiet down. I also am on a lot of prescription drugs which I have to keep taking.
http://www.trinityintegrativemedicine.c ... Gluten.pdf
Jean
You might think you understood what I said but what you don't realize is that what I said was not what I meant!
Hi Jean,
I would agree with taking minimal supplements/probiotic until your gut has done some healing. Tex often points out that it can be a waste of money, too, since they will likely not be absorbed properly until the gut heals. You might want to check with the pharmacist/manufacturer for each of your prescription drugs to see what inert ingredients they contain. It is common for starch (gluten), dairy (particularly lactose), and soy (often as tocopherol) to be present in pills. If it is a major problem, sometimes it is possible to find a compounding pharmacy that can make you the drug without any of the offending ingredients. We have had members here who discovered that it was a prescription med or supplement that was aggravating the MC and preventing healing.
I read the article on the website you provided. I agree that many foods in addition to gluten can be a problem. However, be careful with regard to the specific food recommendations made in the article. We MCers can react to anything.....for example, bananas, onions, and garlic, which they recommend. With food, best to start with a small number of pure (unprocessed) foods and keep a food diary until you are sure you are not reacting to anything. Then add new foods in one at a time. Rather than the "allergy" testing they recommend, I would start with the Enterolab tests. I have never tried l-glutamine, but some here have had good luck with it, I believe. But again, it may be best to wait until you have some healing under your belt.
You will become an expert in MC and realize that you know more about it than the docs do.
I am one who has tried numerous probiotics over the years and never had any success. Others have noted some improvement. In any case, it is best to keep everything initially as simple as possible.
Good luck!
Polly
I would agree with taking minimal supplements/probiotic until your gut has done some healing. Tex often points out that it can be a waste of money, too, since they will likely not be absorbed properly until the gut heals. You might want to check with the pharmacist/manufacturer for each of your prescription drugs to see what inert ingredients they contain. It is common for starch (gluten), dairy (particularly lactose), and soy (often as tocopherol) to be present in pills. If it is a major problem, sometimes it is possible to find a compounding pharmacy that can make you the drug without any of the offending ingredients. We have had members here who discovered that it was a prescription med or supplement that was aggravating the MC and preventing healing.
I read the article on the website you provided. I agree that many foods in addition to gluten can be a problem. However, be careful with regard to the specific food recommendations made in the article. We MCers can react to anything.....for example, bananas, onions, and garlic, which they recommend. With food, best to start with a small number of pure (unprocessed) foods and keep a food diary until you are sure you are not reacting to anything. Then add new foods in one at a time. Rather than the "allergy" testing they recommend, I would start with the Enterolab tests. I have never tried l-glutamine, but some here have had good luck with it, I believe. But again, it may be best to wait until you have some healing under your belt.
You will become an expert in MC and realize that you know more about it than the docs do.
I am one who has tried numerous probiotics over the years and never had any success. Others have noted some improvement. In any case, it is best to keep everything initially as simple as possible.
Good luck!
Polly
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.