good article on histamines
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good article on histamines
Linda :)
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
Hi,
When I come across this kind of articles, I start out very interested, but quickly looks for the conclusion at the bottom. So impatient ...
But, what is liposomal vitamin C? Is it like Ester-C?
Lilja
When I come across this kind of articles, I start out very interested, but quickly looks for the conclusion at the bottom. So impatient ...
But, what is liposomal vitamin C? Is it like Ester-C?
Lilja
Collagenous Colitis diagnosis in 2010
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
I don't know much about it, either.
http://www.iherb.com/dr-mercola-liposom ... ules/48001
I agree it's always tough to trust sources of info on the internet. This article helped to remind me of things I know, but sometimes forget. It explains things in an easy to understand way.
http://www.iherb.com/dr-mercola-liposom ... ules/48001
I agree it's always tough to trust sources of info on the internet. This article helped to remind me of things I know, but sometimes forget. It explains things in an easy to understand way.
Linda :)
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
LC Oct. 2012
MTHFR gene mutation and many more....
I wonder with my D2 D3 levels way low high anxiety blood pressure to high having A terrible problem with my sinus and last week one night my arms and hands turned pink. Histamine?
Re: liposomal I am aware of the company livonlabs.com. My 95 year old uncle takes their liposomal Vit C and other products. He is doing very well on them. He has digestive issues, too. The liposome encapsulation allows the nutrients to reach the bloodstream without degradation through the digestive system. Some compare this to being equal to intravenous delivery. There are some websites that discuss how to manufacture something similar yourself.
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MC/LC dx October 2014
"When making your choices in life, do not forget to live." - Samuel Johnson
MC/LC dx October 2014
Hi T,
I hope you are feeling better soon!
Is there a link between anxiety and MC? I know there are connections between the brain and the gut. But what exactly in the gut causes anxiety? Is it the histamine? Is it a physical phenomenon in the gut, or is it some kind of general vitamin/mineral deficiency due to the very limited diet we tolerate? Every so often people on this board mention anxiety and it makes me wonder if that is also part of MC???
Love, Patricia
I hope you are feeling better soon!
I have lately been wondering about anxiety. I never had any anxiety issues for the first 45 years of my life. For the past year, though, anxiety has been a real issue for me. It started at about the same time as the MC symptoms.Confused I wonder with my D2 D3 levels way low high anxiety blood pressure to high having A terrible problem with my sinus and last week one night my arms and hands turned pink. Histamine?
Is there a link between anxiety and MC? I know there are connections between the brain and the gut. But what exactly in the gut causes anxiety? Is it the histamine? Is it a physical phenomenon in the gut, or is it some kind of general vitamin/mineral deficiency due to the very limited diet we tolerate? Every so often people on this board mention anxiety and it makes me wonder if that is also part of MC???
Love, Patricia
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Gabes-Apg
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Patricia
There are many published studies about inflammed gut and the linkage to depression/anxiety. And even more recently about the impact of ongoing inflammation and linkage to heart disease, diabetes etc...
There are many articles /discussions on this forum. A search will reveal these.
long story short explaination
Ongoing inflammation means that gut is inflammed and becomes 'leaky' (leaky gut) some of the toxins, excess metals etc that should evacuate with our poop, don't, they get through the leaky gut and get into the blood stream.
Not only does this put additional stress on liver, kidney etc, they also make their way to the brain, and other areas of our bodies they shouldn't.
As digestion is compromised due to inflammation, we don't absorb enough nutrients/minerals, to our cells, for them to clear the excess toxins/metals.
Hope this helps... Happy reading....
There are many published studies about inflammed gut and the linkage to depression/anxiety. And even more recently about the impact of ongoing inflammation and linkage to heart disease, diabetes etc...
There are many articles /discussions on this forum. A search will reveal these.
long story short explaination
Ongoing inflammation means that gut is inflammed and becomes 'leaky' (leaky gut) some of the toxins, excess metals etc that should evacuate with our poop, don't, they get through the leaky gut and get into the blood stream.
Not only does this put additional stress on liver, kidney etc, they also make their way to the brain, and other areas of our bodies they shouldn't.
As digestion is compromised due to inflammation, we don't absorb enough nutrients/minerals, to our cells, for them to clear the excess toxins/metals.
Hope this helps... Happy reading....
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
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"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
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The book is a text book used by nutritionists/naturopaths here is Aus.
Name: the Nutrient Bible
Author: Henry Osiecki
I think Donna managed to get one in the USA, maybe Amazon?? Google it and see who has it for sale.
Name: the Nutrient Bible
Author: Henry Osiecki
I think Donna managed to get one in the USA, maybe Amazon?? Google it and see who has it for sale.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Patricia,
I apologize for not remembering in case you recently posted this information, but have you had thyroid function tests recently? If so, what did the tests results show?
I ask because hyperthyroidism (or overtreated hypothyroidism) can cause anxiety, erratic BP excursions, heart rate excursions, hypercalcemia, and many, many other symptoms ranging from decreased libedo to heart palpitations and memory problems. And it can be difficult to track down the source of the problem, especially when the symptoms tend to wax and wane (rather than remaining relatively constant), which could lead one to overlook thyroid issues as a possible cause.
I'm speaking from experience on this, and I can assure you that minor thyroid issues can cause almost unbelievable problems of a wide-ranging nature.
Love,
Tex
I apologize for not remembering in case you recently posted this information, but have you had thyroid function tests recently? If so, what did the tests results show?
I ask because hyperthyroidism (or overtreated hypothyroidism) can cause anxiety, erratic BP excursions, heart rate excursions, hypercalcemia, and many, many other symptoms ranging from decreased libedo to heart palpitations and memory problems. And it can be difficult to track down the source of the problem, especially when the symptoms tend to wax and wane (rather than remaining relatively constant), which could lead one to overlook thyroid issues as a possible cause.
I'm speaking from experience on this, and I can assure you that minor thyroid issues can cause almost unbelievable problems of a wide-ranging nature.
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thanks, Gabes! I will look into it.
Tex, my TSH was last checked in summer 2013 and normal at that time. So far, I didn't think I had a problem with the thyroid because if it was hypothyroidism, I would put on weight, right? And if it was hyperthyroidism, I would have tons of energy and be hyperactive. Neither applies to me. But I know my grandma hat Graves' disease. And now, that I read up on it, I also read about the trembling hands. I have recently noticed that my thumbs sometimes tremble when I try to click a link on my phone, but then when I told my husband about it, he calmed me down and said he had the exact same thing and never thought anything of it, he thought it was more the position of the thumbs that caused it. But recently, I sometimes just feel trembly in general, hard to describe, no visible trembling/shaking, nobody noticed anything, the feeling is mostly in the hands/arms. I was wondering if I should add the equivalence of Metanx as supplements to see if that would help. It could be a deficiency from having a very limited diet.
I will ask my PCP next time I see her if we can do thyroid testing. It won't hurt.
The second urinalysis, by the way, came back without hemoglobin, but slightly more RBCs (the nurse who called me said it was normal). I still have not received the urine cytology results of the test done 8 days ago. Shouldn't be much longer, I would think.
I saw my GI this week for the first follow-up. I told him about this forum, Enterolab, your book, and gave him a copy of it. He was quite impressed with the progress on the elimination diet.
Love, Patricia
Tex, my TSH was last checked in summer 2013 and normal at that time. So far, I didn't think I had a problem with the thyroid because if it was hypothyroidism, I would put on weight, right? And if it was hyperthyroidism, I would have tons of energy and be hyperactive. Neither applies to me. But I know my grandma hat Graves' disease. And now, that I read up on it, I also read about the trembling hands. I have recently noticed that my thumbs sometimes tremble when I try to click a link on my phone, but then when I told my husband about it, he calmed me down and said he had the exact same thing and never thought anything of it, he thought it was more the position of the thumbs that caused it. But recently, I sometimes just feel trembly in general, hard to describe, no visible trembling/shaking, nobody noticed anything, the feeling is mostly in the hands/arms. I was wondering if I should add the equivalence of Metanx as supplements to see if that would help. It could be a deficiency from having a very limited diet.
I will ask my PCP next time I see her if we can do thyroid testing. It won't hurt.
The second urinalysis, by the way, came back without hemoglobin, but slightly more RBCs (the nurse who called me said it was normal). I still have not received the urine cytology results of the test done 8 days ago. Shouldn't be much longer, I would think.
I saw my GI this week for the first follow-up. I told him about this forum, Enterolab, your book, and gave him a copy of it. He was quite impressed with the progress on the elimination diet.
Love, Patricia
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Patricia,
The trembling can be due to multitude of things....
For me it was related to fibro, and much worse when I was deficient in magnesium and Vit C and zinc. These three are essential for central nervous system and nerve ending health.
The mag, Vit C and zinc can be depleted by inflammation and excess toxins (as mentioned above, leaky gut etc). ...
Your immune system and adrenals also rely on them.
The trembling can be due to multitude of things....
For me it was related to fibro, and much worse when I was deficient in magnesium and Vit C and zinc. These three are essential for central nervous system and nerve ending health.
The mag, Vit C and zinc can be depleted by inflammation and excess toxins (as mentioned above, leaky gut etc). ...
Your immune system and adrenals also rely on them.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Patrica,
In a few months I will have been taking 60 mg of Armour for 10 years now, with no problems up until last summer/fall. FWIW, my TSH was normal in 2013 also. In fact, a test on October 1, 2013 showed TSH to be mid-range.
It wasn't checked in the spring of 2014, but on October 7, 2014, it was below range (0.28). That was when I had the kidney stones and noticed that my calcium level was higher than it normally is (10.0).
A few weeks ago I began to have problems sleeping, and I would wake up after only a couple of hours of sleep, severely dehydrated (severe leg/foot cramps, mouth dry as a desert, etc.), even though I was drinking plenty of water. Before, I never had to get up during the night to empty my bladder. But now the water was going straight to my bladder, instead of going to hydrate my cells all over my body. My heart rate would be high (around 110–115 bpm), which is consistent with dehydration, and I would be hot and sweaty. The next morning my systolic BP would be low (below 100), and my heart rate would still be high (85–95), but lower than it was during the night. Again, this is consistent with hypovolemia (low blood volume) associated with dehydration.
I thought that it was simply a dehydration problem, so I drank more water than needed during the day. But by mid-day, my BP would be high (and my heart rate closer to normal). Just in case it was diabetes or a heart issue, I set up a doctor's appointment to check it out. The morning of the appointment, my BP was 92/53. When I got to the doctor's office for the appointment (2:15 pm), my BP was 168/90-something.
But — a blood test showed that my TSH was 0.07. All the other labs were fine, except that my Free T-4 was at the bottom of the normal range (as usual, for me). I had all the symptoms I mentioned in my previous post (and more), and even though I didn't feel anxious, I did feel agitated, and I noticed that my hands were shaking. So after the appointment, I cut my dose of Armour in half, and my clinical symptoms are much better, and my BP/heart rate seem to be slowly improving. I have a followup appointment in a few weeks, so we'll see how I feel then.
Interestingly, I did not seem to have excessive amounts of energy, and I was not hyperactive. In fact I have more energy now, 6 days after reducing my dose. And I haven't noticed any hand tremors since 2009, when I was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease (which I believe was a misdiagnosis, but that's another story), so the hand tremors caught my attention. I haven't noticed any more hand tremors since halving my Armour dosage.
I'm beginning to wonder if my original hypothyroidism symptoms (back in 2005) might have actually been symptoms of methylation issues, which have since been resolved by taking Metanx for over 5 years, but I can't find any significant research in the medical literature to support that theory.
Anyway, my point is: Your TSH in 2013 is history — it's not a reflection of your TSH today, so I'm glad to see that you are planning on asking your doctor to order some tests to rule out the possibility that your thyroid might be hyperactive today.
Thanks for helping to educate your doctor about MC.
Love,
Tex
In a few months I will have been taking 60 mg of Armour for 10 years now, with no problems up until last summer/fall. FWIW, my TSH was normal in 2013 also. In fact, a test on October 1, 2013 showed TSH to be mid-range.
It wasn't checked in the spring of 2014, but on October 7, 2014, it was below range (0.28). That was when I had the kidney stones and noticed that my calcium level was higher than it normally is (10.0).A few weeks ago I began to have problems sleeping, and I would wake up after only a couple of hours of sleep, severely dehydrated (severe leg/foot cramps, mouth dry as a desert, etc.), even though I was drinking plenty of water. Before, I never had to get up during the night to empty my bladder. But now the water was going straight to my bladder, instead of going to hydrate my cells all over my body. My heart rate would be high (around 110–115 bpm), which is consistent with dehydration, and I would be hot and sweaty. The next morning my systolic BP would be low (below 100), and my heart rate would still be high (85–95), but lower than it was during the night. Again, this is consistent with hypovolemia (low blood volume) associated with dehydration.
I thought that it was simply a dehydration problem, so I drank more water than needed during the day. But by mid-day, my BP would be high (and my heart rate closer to normal). Just in case it was diabetes or a heart issue, I set up a doctor's appointment to check it out. The morning of the appointment, my BP was 92/53. When I got to the doctor's office for the appointment (2:15 pm), my BP was 168/90-something.
But — a blood test showed that my TSH was 0.07. All the other labs were fine, except that my Free T-4 was at the bottom of the normal range (as usual, for me). I had all the symptoms I mentioned in my previous post (and more), and even though I didn't feel anxious, I did feel agitated, and I noticed that my hands were shaking. So after the appointment, I cut my dose of Armour in half, and my clinical symptoms are much better, and my BP/heart rate seem to be slowly improving. I have a followup appointment in a few weeks, so we'll see how I feel then.
Interestingly, I did not seem to have excessive amounts of energy, and I was not hyperactive. In fact I have more energy now, 6 days after reducing my dose. And I haven't noticed any hand tremors since 2009, when I was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease (which I believe was a misdiagnosis, but that's another story), so the hand tremors caught my attention. I haven't noticed any more hand tremors since halving my Armour dosage.
I'm beginning to wonder if my original hypothyroidism symptoms (back in 2005) might have actually been symptoms of methylation issues, which have since been resolved by taking Metanx for over 5 years, but I can't find any significant research in the medical literature to support that theory.
Anyway, my point is: Your TSH in 2013 is history — it's not a reflection of your TSH today, so I'm glad to see that you are planning on asking your doctor to order some tests to rule out the possibility that your thyroid might be hyperactive today.
Thanks for helping to educate your doctor about MC.
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Patricia,
Regarding tremors (essential tremors): Yes, a deficiency of vitamin B-12 can definitely cause tremors. Just taking vitamin B-12 may be enough to resolve the problem, unless you also have methylation problems, in which case the Metanx would presumably be helpful.
One of the problems with testing for B-12 is that the blood test only tells us how much B-12 is in the blood. It doesn't tell us anything about how much is actually getting into the cells (where an adequate level is essential for normal neurological processes). Especially for those of us who have methylation issues, our serum B-12 level can be above range, but our cells may still be starved for vitamin B-12.
This is just speculation on my part, but I have a hunch that the way that the supplements that Gabes mentioned (particularly magnesium) work, is by enhancing the absorption of vitamin B-12. And presumably they would not only improve the absorption of vitamin B-12 into the blood stream (from the gut), but also it's absorption from the blood into the cells. IOW, if we have a magnesium deficiency, we may also have a B-12 deficiency (in our cells). And obviously a folate deficiency can cause a B-12 deficiency.
Love,
Tex
P. S. Your husband could probably benefit from a B-12 (plus folate) supplement, also.
Regarding tremors (essential tremors): Yes, a deficiency of vitamin B-12 can definitely cause tremors. Just taking vitamin B-12 may be enough to resolve the problem, unless you also have methylation problems, in which case the Metanx would presumably be helpful.
One of the problems with testing for B-12 is that the blood test only tells us how much B-12 is in the blood. It doesn't tell us anything about how much is actually getting into the cells (where an adequate level is essential for normal neurological processes). Especially for those of us who have methylation issues, our serum B-12 level can be above range, but our cells may still be starved for vitamin B-12.
This is just speculation on my part, but I have a hunch that the way that the supplements that Gabes mentioned (particularly magnesium) work, is by enhancing the absorption of vitamin B-12. And presumably they would not only improve the absorption of vitamin B-12 into the blood stream (from the gut), but also it's absorption from the blood into the cells. IOW, if we have a magnesium deficiency, we may also have a B-12 deficiency (in our cells). And obviously a folate deficiency can cause a B-12 deficiency.
Love,
Tex
P. S. Your husband could probably benefit from a B-12 (plus folate) supplement, also.
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.