Pooping in the morning
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Pooping in the morning
I wonder why I have most of my poops in rapid succession in the morning then the stomach settles down at night despite eating fiber for dinner etc......I'm guessing this is true for a lot of us. Of course in a bad flare we go through the night. I'm just hoping there is healing still happening. It doesn't matter what I eat for breakfast....sometimes nothing?
Vanessa
Same for me. Have to run to the bathroom immediately upon waking in the morning and then have to run back 2-3 times while getting showered/dressed. Then it's calm for a while, maybe because there isn't much left. And yes, I can eat fiber at night and have my intestines be calm and quiet through to bedtime and through the night, so I often wonder if the fiber gives my guts something to gnaw on instead of chewing up my insides. I've actually thought about adding fiber powder/Metamucil to my morning routine to see if that helps.
Sue
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Sue
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
Diagnosed November 2004, Used Asacol and Lialda, sometimes worked, sometimes made it worse. Entocort always works but hate it. Remission only lasts 3-6 months and then back on Entocort. Enterolab test July 2017, now gluten free. Time will tell!
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Sheila
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When I was really sick, I actually spent hours on the toilet during the night. I'd take a pillow, throw, book, water and just stay there. I was going so frequently it just didn't make sense to go to bed. In the beginning, I also had some WD during the day but not nearly as frequently as during the night and early morning.
After going GF, DF, SF, EF and taking Entocort, the D stopped immediately. However, since then and for the past 3 years I am awakened any time between 5 a.m. and 6:30 a.m. It's always Norman and always first thing in the morning. Over the past year, I've gone from 3-5 times in the morning to 2-3 times. I almost never have to go at any other time.
I'm maintaining on a modified Paleo diet, no Entocort, and trying to manage methylation issues with the help of my friends here. (Thank you Gabes) I doubt many of us are ever "cured" because so many have AI issues and genetic abnormalities.
It is really strange to only have D when you get up and move around. Perhaps someone else can come up with an explanation.
Sheila W
After going GF, DF, SF, EF and taking Entocort, the D stopped immediately. However, since then and for the past 3 years I am awakened any time between 5 a.m. and 6:30 a.m. It's always Norman and always first thing in the morning. Over the past year, I've gone from 3-5 times in the morning to 2-3 times. I almost never have to go at any other time.
I'm maintaining on a modified Paleo diet, no Entocort, and trying to manage methylation issues with the help of my friends here. (Thank you Gabes) I doubt many of us are ever "cured" because so many have AI issues and genetic abnormalities.
It is really strange to only have D when you get up and move around. Perhaps someone else can come up with an explanation.
Sheila W
To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did.
A person who never made a mistake never tried something new. Einstein
A person who never made a mistake never tried something new. Einstein
Yep, me too. As long as I get my four trips to the bathroom in the morning done I know I'm goopd to leave the house. It's taken some adjustment since I now have to be at work at 6 AM. I also have to be sure I eat at least a half hour minimum before leaving the house- not always easy since I'm not really ready for breakfast at 4:45 AM. I can't postpone it either because I have to squeeze in my thyroid meds before I eat again at 9 AM break. I am so physically active at work that skipping any meal would put in in worse shape. It's a delicate dance coordinating work, daily life, MC, and meds but I'm thankful I am able to work.
The biggest obstacle for me is once I start waking up it's only a matter of minutes before the urge to "go" forces me out of bed. There's no rolling over and going back to sleep. I was hoping that urgency issue would have gone away by now. That's just the way it is........
The biggest obstacle for me is once I start waking up it's only a matter of minutes before the urge to "go" forces me out of bed. There's no rolling over and going back to sleep. I was hoping that urgency issue would have gone away by now. That's just the way it is........
Deb
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path, and leave a trail.
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2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
"Do not follow where the path may lead. Go instead, where there is no path, and leave a trail.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
2007 CC
2013 thyroid cancer- total thyroidectomy
2013 Hashimoto's - numbers always "normal"
2017 Lyme's Disease
Hi,
Me too, now I only go twice a day.
The strange thing is that the first poop, right after leaving bed, is almost normal (type 5 on the Bristol Chart), then it takes only 20 min and I have to go for a second time. This time it's loose (type 6).
I have to add that I'm still on Entocort, now down to one capsule every 4th day. I eat a bland diet, cooked fish and meat, overly cooked vegetables, one banana each day.
I can't wait to see how I will be once I'm completely off Entocort.
I would love to go back to my favorite breakfast, that is oat porridge with blueberry jam. I haven't had porridge for nearly two years, but I'm afraid that would upset my stomach.
Lilia
Me too, now I only go twice a day.
The strange thing is that the first poop, right after leaving bed, is almost normal (type 5 on the Bristol Chart), then it takes only 20 min and I have to go for a second time. This time it's loose (type 6).
I have to add that I'm still on Entocort, now down to one capsule every 4th day. I eat a bland diet, cooked fish and meat, overly cooked vegetables, one banana each day.
I can't wait to see how I will be once I'm completely off Entocort.
I would love to go back to my favorite breakfast, that is oat porridge with blueberry jam. I haven't had porridge for nearly two years, but I'm afraid that would upset my stomach.
Lilia
Collagenous Colitis diagnosis in 2010
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
Psoriasis in 1973, symptom free in 2014
GF, CF and SF free since April, 2013
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fatbuster205
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I am the same although I seem to have developed a pattern of going 7-9 times a day!! In the mornings I usually go at least 3 or 4 times, and usually with a feeling of urgency. All Normans 3 and 4s, occasionally 5s. The again in the afternoon I go 3 or 4 times. I have a sore butt as a result and while it is a relief not to have 6 and 7s I do feel frustrated that this pattern has become the norm for me. Any advise welcome!
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Hey fatbuster!
I know you had been having problems last year with a flare? How are things now....are you on any treatment or just using diet? 7-9 times sounds miserable....although I'm jeoulous of consistency. I have been using immodium during this time because of a stressful situation. Sometimes it works so well I won't go potty at all the next day. I just don't want to become dependent (mentally) :)
I know you had been having problems last year with a flare? How are things now....are you on any treatment or just using diet? 7-9 times sounds miserable....although I'm jeoulous of consistency. I have been using immodium during this time because of a stressful situation. Sometimes it works so well I won't go potty at all the next day. I just don't want to become dependent (mentally) :)
Vanessa
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Sheila
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Hi Fatbuster,
I noticed you are from N. Ireland. While working on my father's Irish history I found that his family is from Armagh, Tyrone and scattered around the Cookstown area. I wish I had known that when I visited Ireland in 2007.
While discussing my auto-immune issues with a rheumatologist, he mentioned that the Irish seem to be unduly prone to AI disorders. Do you know if Celiac, MC, Sjogrens etc are more prevalent in Ireland? There is an area on the Dingle peninsula in Eire that has a higher than normal percentage of people with celiac disease. My mothers family comes from that area and from Kings County.
Sheila W
I noticed you are from N. Ireland. While working on my father's Irish history I found that his family is from Armagh, Tyrone and scattered around the Cookstown area. I wish I had known that when I visited Ireland in 2007.
While discussing my auto-immune issues with a rheumatologist, he mentioned that the Irish seem to be unduly prone to AI disorders. Do you know if Celiac, MC, Sjogrens etc are more prevalent in Ireland? There is an area on the Dingle peninsula in Eire that has a higher than normal percentage of people with celiac disease. My mothers family comes from that area and from Kings County.
Sheila W
To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did.
A person who never made a mistake never tried something new. Einstein
A person who never made a mistake never tried something new. Einstein
I am the same for example I only had oats made on water and a banana for dinner last night (I seem to tolerate oats atm) cleaned everything out before going to bed then awake at 4.30am for another D. I also go about 3 times in the morn before I head out the door. I have also been through the night about 5 times the most so far when it is really bad. I have taken immodium for 48 hours but this does nothing. It states on the packet only use for 48 hours do any others use it longer?? As I am starting the elimination diet today I have no idea what to have for brekky I usually have oats but not even sure about them atm.
Karen Moran
Anne,
If I recall correctly, you have a history of too many BMs daily for some time now. If I were in that situation I would try Imodium. Imodium will reduce the urgency, and the number of trips to the loo. Our body gets used to patterns after a while, and unless we do something to break the pattern, it may continue indefinitely. You can use Imodium to "retrain" your bowels, and hopefully eventually cut the number of trips to the bathroom to 1 or 2 in the morning. After a while, your enteric nervous system will be "reprogrammed" and you should be able to wean off the Imodium and maintain a normal pattern without it.
Just don't overdo it, because Imodium can cause constipation if we take too much.
Tex
If I recall correctly, you have a history of too many BMs daily for some time now. If I were in that situation I would try Imodium. Imodium will reduce the urgency, and the number of trips to the loo. Our body gets used to patterns after a while, and unless we do something to break the pattern, it may continue indefinitely. You can use Imodium to "retrain" your bowels, and hopefully eventually cut the number of trips to the bathroom to 1 or 2 in the morning. After a while, your enteric nervous system will be "reprogrammed" and you should be able to wean off the Imodium and maintain a normal pattern without it.
Just don't overdo it, because Imodium can cause constipation if we take too much.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Karen,
If I were in your situation, I would avoid oats. Very few of us here can safely tolerate oats. Most newbies who join feel that they are somehow an exception to the rule, and they are not sensitive to the foods that most of us cannot tolerate, and once in a blue moon that turns out to be true, but most of the time, they eventually discover that they do indeed have most of the same sensitivities that most of the rest of us have (at least while they are trying to recover).
If you can't tolerate any of the gluten-free Chex cereals and almond milk or coconut milk for breakfast, you can eat leftovers from dinner. Many of us have recovered by eating the same foods for 3 or 4 meals each day. It gets boring, but IMO it's much better to be bored and healthy, than to not be bored and afraid to leave the house.
After you have been in remission for a few months you can test oats back into your diet to see if you react to them. But if you continue to eat them, and it turns out that you are sensitive to them, then you will never reach remission.
Tex
If I were in your situation, I would avoid oats. Very few of us here can safely tolerate oats. Most newbies who join feel that they are somehow an exception to the rule, and they are not sensitive to the foods that most of us cannot tolerate, and once in a blue moon that turns out to be true, but most of the time, they eventually discover that they do indeed have most of the same sensitivities that most of the rest of us have (at least while they are trying to recover).
If you can't tolerate any of the gluten-free Chex cereals and almond milk or coconut milk for breakfast, you can eat leftovers from dinner. Many of us have recovered by eating the same foods for 3 or 4 meals each day. It gets boring, but IMO it's much better to be bored and healthy, than to not be bored and afraid to leave the house.
After you have been in remission for a few months you can test oats back into your diet to see if you react to them. But if you continue to eat them, and it turns out that you are sensitive to them, then you will never reach remission.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Good to know about the immodium! I felt so guilty for using it. I haven't been able to find my minimal effective dose. 2 pills seem to make me not go at all the next day, but 1 and 1/2 does not do this. MUST BE FOOD! It also depends on how much I go the day before. The more I go the day I take the 2 pills, the less or none at all will I go the next and vice versa.
Vanessa