An Important Reason Why We Should Be Using Magnesium

[tex]

Hi Sheila,

I've never heard of magnesium glycinate causing C, but I haven't investigated it, either. You might try substituting a magnesium citrate tablet for one of the magnesium glycinate tablets. I take 200 mg of magnesium citrate and 400 mg of magnesium glycinate most days.

I've never tried LDN, but I was under the impression that one of it's best uses is for treating/preventing arthritis.

Tex

[mzh]

The LDN doesn't seem to help my arthritis but it sure helps my gut. I take it at night and I don't sleep as well as when I don't take it. I should try it in the AM although it works better at bed time.

My sleep doc gave me ropin....something or other.... for restless legs to see if I'd sleep better but it seems to knock me out. I need to revisit that med and try agan. Never heard of what you're taking for RLS. Interesting!

[Sheila]

Thanks, Tex. I looked more carefully at my large bottle of magnesium glycinate and found that it contains 100 mg AS magnesium bisglycinate chelate and 555 mg FROM magnesium bisglycinate chelate. However, looking at ingredients I see magnesium bisglycinate chelate, magnesium oxide, L-Leucine, plant cellulose. I don't understand why magnesium oxide isn't listed in large letters showing Ingredients.

Regardless, it works extremely well for restless leg syndrome. I'm going to continue to check into LDN. It certainly can't hurt and anything that helps is welcome.

Sheila W

[wmonique2]

Sheila,

My peeps from other boards are swearing by cannabis oil for arthritis pain. Here's a link:

http://nohighcbdoil.weebly.com/store/p8 ... ural_.html

Amazon sells it too but I don't know the brands. They only use 2 drops under the tongue.

magnesium sends me running to the toilet. I only use it as magnesium oil.

LDN is great for pain. Never heard of it giving C to anybody. If it does, then maybe you are taking too much.

PM me if you want to talk about LDN.


Regards,

Monique

[bevfromwa]

wow, this post is a match made in heaven! I've been researching magnesium for ages, have Dave on Taurate, seems to help his afib, but I've been afraid of D, so have dragged my feet. Think the topical will be a good idea.

BUT, here is the other deal--after first hearing about LDN almost exactly a year ago, Monique, Zizzle and others, and trying 4 doctors, no soap, I finally gave up and ordered from alldaychemist.com, and the Naltrexone arrived today, it is in the fridge ready for my first dose tonight. An aside, I found a very nice compounding pharmacist in Port Townsend Wa when I went in a drug store to try to find supplies for being my own compounder. (actually, Dave researched this and wanted to do this for me, what a guy!). The pharm. was so helpful, GAVE me a syringe and measurers, and told me she compounded for a lot of patients, a wonderful drug, and if it works out and I want to find a doctor who will prescribe it, she will give me names of local doctors. Think they are mostly naturopaths, but was extremely impressed and gratified.

I've read that it's best to start low, like 1.5 mg, and gradually increase. So I thought I'd keep the 1.5 mg dose for 30 days, then go to 3 mg for 30 days, then up to the usual of 4.5 mg. Other sources suggest 1.5 mg for a week or two, adding 0.5 mg for a week or two, steadily increasing until the 4.5 mg dose is reached. I got 20 pills so that should be plenty for experimenting.

I'd appreciate any input from members who have taken LDN as to what method they've used.

Thanks, Beverly

[mzh]

I went right to 4.5 mg with no issues. It allows me to have normal poos (oops, Normans LOL) with no other add-ons (like Entocort, immodium and the like). I really never thought I'd see the day that I'd be free of Entocort and have normal BMs again.

[Zizzle]

I take one Mag Glycinate capsule a day, plus one cal/mag citrate per day, and I use the best, cheapest deodorant EVER!!! -- Milk of Magnesia!! Simply amazing stuff! Doesn't burn like the mag oil did after shaving, and the odor control lasts all day. In fact, I think it's permanently altered the microbiome of my armpits, so I'm odor free for good!

I buy a brand online (Good Sense) that's just magnesium and water. Phillips and other brands add a small amount of bleach.

[Deb]

Z- do you have any easy way to apply the Milk of Magnesia? I'm wondering if you could empty a roller deodorant and use that? DH is finally ready to get rid of the aluminum-containing one he's used for years. I've used the oil or nothing for years and seldom get an odor.

[Zizzle]

I just apply with my fingers, but you can buy a MoM rollon and/or empty roll on bottles on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GGL ... _i=desktop

[Deb]

Thanks Zizzle!

[Lilja]

Hi Tex,

I came across this article from Dr Mercola about magnesium. At the end of the article he states:

"So, all in all, anytime you're taking any of the following: magnesium, calcium, vitamin D3 or vitamin K2, you need to take all the others into consideration as well, since these all work synergistically with each other".

I take 1 tablet of Doctor's Best 100% Chelated Magnesium (200 mg) and 10.000 i.u. of Jarrow D3, but no calcium or K2.

(Btw, to make sure that I digest the Magnesium tablets well, I chew them. They taste chlorine ...)

Is it important to combine calcium and K2 with Magnesium and D3?

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... efits.aspx

Lilia

[Gabes-Apg]

Lilja
yes K2 is important for VitD3 absorbtion and use in the body

are you eating any foods that are high in K2?

If not, you may want to consider supplementing

Foods high in vitamin K2
Natto
Hard cheese
Soft cheese
Egg yolk
Butter
Chicken liver
Salami
Chicken breast
Ground beef
Source Chris Kesser

Getting Enough Vitamin K2
A vitamin that helps prevent two crippling chronic diseases at one blow is a vitamin we all want to get plenty of! But unfortunately, modern diets are typically very deficient in Vitamin K2, for several reasons.
We avoid fat and cholesterol. The best sources of Vitamin K2 are fatty, cholesterol-rich animal foods, which are still demonized as “artery-clogging.”
We eat factory-farmed meat. The amount of Vitamin K2 in factory-farmed meat is much lower than the amount in grass-fed meat. Weston A. Price famously noticed that the greatest quantities of Activator X were found in the butter, milk, and meat of cows that grazed on lush green pastures in the spring. That’s because the cows were converting the K1 in the grass to K2 in the cow. Rather obviously, if the cows have no grass to eat, this cannot happen.
We take too many antibiotics. This study found that antibiotics (which deliver a serious one-two punch to the gut flora) impair the body’s ability to convert Vitamin K1 to Vitamin K2.

Depending on your MC eating plan, if you are not having Butter or Ghee, Chicken or Eggs, etc then you may not be getting enough K2
Since reading Tex's book about VitD3 and various articles about VitD3 and magnesium, i now take a Vit D3 that has K2.

[tex]

Lilia,

If you are eating foods that contain K1, your body will be able to convert it into K2, and some research shows that this works better than eating foods that contain K2 or taking a K2 supplement.

Dr. Cannell on vitamin K2

Regarding the Doctor's Best 100% Chelated Magnesium, look at the label carefully. If it's the same as the product that I'm using, like so many vitamin products, it lists the dose based on "serving size", and the serving size is 2 tablets. That means that each tablet actually contains 100 mg of magnesium. I consider that to be very misleading labeling, but that practice seems to be very, very common in the pharmaceutical industry. And of course this is the way that most processed foods are also labeled, IOW the nutritional listings, calories, etc., are based on an arbitrary serving size".

But I can see how selecting an arbitrary serving size might be helpful for labeling food products packaged in bulk. I can't see why labeling according to "serving size" is justified with pharmaceutical products. Such products are not snacks — they're therapeutic supplements.

Most people have plenty of calcium in their diet, so they don't need to take a calcium supplement. If you use almond milk, for example, it contains at least as much calcium as cow's milk, and a lot of other foods contain calcium.

Tex

[Lilja]

Thank you Tex,

Very misleading labeling, almost speculative, I would say.

In stead of saying what 1 tablet contains.

Lilia

[jlbattin]

So, I looked up a list of foods that have vitamin K1 in them, and I'm not seeing anything on there that's in my diet right now. So, if I'm not getting any K1 to convert to K2, then maybe I should take a supplement? I asked earlier and I thought I got from you that it might not be important right now, but then I read Gabes' responses, and it appears that it is pretty important.

Thoughts? I'm sure trying to get everything I need as my diet is so limited right now. I want my Vitamin D3 to work, and I am doing the magnesium spray.......I might not be doing enough spray, but I am feeling better...................