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Based off my Enterolab results, I'm at a loss. Can't eat eggs, can't eat dairy, can't eat pork or chicken (sometimes). Can't eat oats. What am I supposed to eat? No oatmeal, no bacon, no cereal but bland rice chex and only rice/coconut milk which either has a ton of sugar or a ton of fat and no protein. For those with multiple intolerances, what do you eat? I need a lot of calories and a lot of protein.
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If you want protein and calories, then eat leftovers from dinner. Many of us eat unconventional foods for breakfast while we are recovering. I've even eaten reheated fried catfish and French fries for breakfast a few times, and it made a great breakfast. Fried chicken at other times (or dove or quail). Can you eat corn? Grits is a popular side dish in many parts of the South, and corn is loaded with calories. So are hashbrowns. Some of us who are sensitive to chicken eggs can tolerate duck eggs, that are sometimes available at Farmer's Markets.

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tex wrote:If you want protein and calories, then eat leftovers from dinner. Many of us eat unconventional foods for breakfast while we are recovering. I've even eaten reheated fried catfish and French fries for breakfast a few times, and it made a great breakfast. Fried chicken at other times (or dove or quail). Can you eat corn? Grits is a popular side dish in many parts of the South, and corn is loaded with calories. So are hashbrowns. Some of us who are sensitive to chicken eggs can tolerate duck eggs, that are sometimes available at Farmer's Markets.

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I showed low sensitivity to corn as well as white potato. So that excludes both hashbrowns, corn, anything fried or battered.
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At that sensitivity level, avoidance is certainly the safest policy, so I can't argue with that. However, many members find that they can tolerate certain foods in that category if they rotate them in their diet (so that they don't eat a particular food more frequently than about once every 3 or 4 days. This is sort of a last resort option, to prevent being bored to death by the same diet foods, day after day.

So how about fried rice? Baked sweet potato is always good (assuming that you can tolerate it). And sweet potato would work with turkey or other meats. Plantain or banana pancakes are good.

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How about turkey and rice? I have been eating copious amounts of rice. It's very filling.
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I have been eating turkey fairly regularly at this point. I just don't think I can eat turkey and rice for breakfast, lunch and dinner every single day.
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I have been eating chicken, rice, and green beans for going on 3 weeks now (3 or 4 times a day). I just in the last few days added in one banana a day with no troubles. It's not ideal, but I just told myself that food was medicine right now that it didn't matter what it tasted like that I just had to eat it to get better. Down the road, I can choose to be a little pickier because I will have allowed my gut to heal. Being in that mindset has really helped me. I just eat to survive and because I have to. It is my medicine.

I sent my Enterolab sample back yesterday so am eagerly awaiting the results in a week or two or three to find out what I can maybe add in or NOT.
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jlbattin wrote:I have been eating chicken, rice, and green beans for going on 3 weeks now (3 or 4 times a day). I just in the last few days added in one banana a day with no troubles. It's not ideal, but I just told myself that food was medicine right now that it didn't matter what it tasted like that I just had to eat it to get better. Down the road, I can choose to be a little pickier because I will have allowed my gut to heal. Being in that mindset has really helped me. I just eat to survive and because I have to. It is my medicine.

I sent my Enterolab sample back yesterday so am eagerly awaiting the results in a week or two or three to find out what I can maybe add in or NOT.
This is the best mindset to have if your goal is long time wellness. I spent about 2 weeks eating only ground lamb and a much longer time eating only about 6 different foods. Breakfast, lunch and dinner all looked the same. They still pretty much do except that the number of foods I can eat has expanded. It's all been worth is for the ability to leave the house without worrying where the nearest bathroom is and whether I will get to it on time.

The enterolab testing was the best investment I have made in my health.

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Tex.. U say Fried foods? Is Fries food ok then?? I Love French fries!
I fry in beef dat. NOT in Oil.
Fry in beef fat is ok??

If i eat lots of Fried food.. My gut tells le It's Too fatty for Me.
SO Fried isnt that bad?? But NOT Too much?
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jlbattin wrote:I have been eating chicken, rice, and green beans for going on 3 weeks now (3 or 4 times a day). I just in the last few days added in one banana a day with no troubles. It's not ideal, but I just told myself that food was medicine right now that it didn't matter what it tasted like that I just had to eat it to get better. Down the road, I can choose to be a little pickier because I will have allowed my gut to heal. Being in that mindset has really helped me. I just eat to survive and because I have to. It is my medicine.

I sent my Enterolab sample back yesterday so am eagerly awaiting the results in a week or two or three to find out what I can maybe add in or NOT.
This is the best mindset to have if your goal is long time wellness. I spent about 2 weeks eating only ground lamb and a much longer time eating only about 6 different foods. Breakfast, lunch and dinner all looked the same. They still pretty much do except that the number of foods I can eat has expanded. It's all been worth is for the ability to leave the house without worrying where the nearest bathroom is and whether I will get to it on time.

The enterolab testing was the best investment I have made in my health.

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For me, it just doesn't seem worth it. My symptoms are an annoyance, not a stop to the way I live. I carry around loperamide in my pocket at all times and if I'm going anywhere for more than 5-6 hours I will take one as prophylaxis just "in case." I've never had this uncontrollable watery D that some people talk about. My symptoms are relatively mild and controllable with OTC drugs. I wanted the Enterolab results as a guide to hopefully eliminate the biggest culprits - not limit my diet to rare and exotic meats and only having beef, chicken or pork "sometimes." At this point, I'm about to just forget about these ridiculous limitiations. I can supplement with vitamin D and magnesium to help with the deficiencies I have and treat with OTC meds.
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kenvh wrote:Tex.. U say Fried foods? Is Fries food ok then?? I Love French fries!
I fry in beef dat. NOT in Oil.
Fry in beef fat is ok??

If i eat lots of Fried food.. My gut tells le It's Too fatty for Me.
SO Fried isnt that bad?? But NOT Too much?
It depends on whether your digestive system is working well enough to digest and absorb fats properly.

If frying in beef fat does not cause you to have diarrhea, then it is OK, because animal fat is healthy. If frying in beef fat is too greasy though, and causes you to have diarrhea, try frying in refined coconut oil. Food fried in refined coconut oil is not as greasy, because it does not absorb as much of the fat in the oil.

Fried food is good, but everything should be done in moderation. Too much fried food can cause digestive problems, so listen to your body if it says, "Too much!"

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I know you guys told me refined coconut oil. How do you tell if it is refined or not? We got something a while back that we thought would work and it made everything taste like coconut and while I love coconut, I don't love it in everything else. What should I be looking for? Anyone got a favorite brand?
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Bearcat wrote:At this point, I'm about to just forget about these ridiculous limitiations. I can supplement with vitamin D and magnesium to help with the deficiencies I have and treat with OTC meds.
I can certainly understand your feelings, because if your symptoms are not severe enough to inspire you to make those diet changes, and you would prefer to live the rest of your life eating what you want and controlling your MC symptoms with OTC medications, you are certainly free to do so. It's your life, after all.

More than a few members here have chosen to do that in the past, and many of them have returned after a couple of years or so with much more conviction, after their symptoms became severe. It's much easier to decide to be faithful to the diet when our symptoms become debilitating. As strange as it may sound, I feel lucky that my symptoms were so severe that they left me no choice — I couldn't continue to live that way.

Please keep your vitamin D level well up in the normal range, because research shows that the intestinal inflammation associated with untreated MC predisposes us to the development of other AI issues.

And the best of luck to you, whatever you decide to do. We are always here for support, if/when the need arises.

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Jari,

I use Lou Ana brand (mostly because it is the only brand carried by the grocery stores where I usually shop). On the side of the container it says, "Refined from the meat of mature coconuts so there is no coconut flavor or aroma".

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tex wrote:
Bearcat wrote:At this point, I'm about to just forget about these ridiculous limitiations. I can supplement with vitamin D and magnesium to help with the deficiencies I have and treat with OTC meds.
I can certainly understand your feelings, because if your symptoms are not severe enough to inspire you to make those diet changes, and you would prefer to live the rest of your life eating what you want and controlling your MC symptoms with OTC medications, you are certainly free to do so. It's your life, after all.

More than a few members here have chosen to do that in the past, and many of them have returned after a couple of years or so with much more conviction, after their symptoms became severe. It's much easier to decide to be faithful to the diet when our symptoms become debilitating. As strange as it may sound, I feel lucky that my symptoms were so severe that they left me no choice — I couldn't continue to live that way.

Please keep your vitamin D level well up in the normal range, because research shows that the intestinal inflammation associated with untreated MC predisposes us to the development of other AI issues.

And the best of luck to you, whatever you decide to do. We are always here for support, if/when the need arises.

Tex
The gluten, dairy and egg aspect I can deal with. However, having so many +1's where I have just a marginal immune response makes it a little too much. I plan on avoiding all +2s and the highest +1s and see how much control I can have with symptoms.
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