For the Multiply-Intolerant (and anyone else interested)
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For the Multiply-Intolerant (and anyone else interested)
Hi Good Buddies!
I saw this quote from a blogger named Melissa who suffers from MIs:
"Time to regain my monk-like attitude about food. If I don't expect anything more from food than health, fuel, and nourishment, then I make good choices. When I want food to give me comfort or some sort of entitlement/reward, then I make choices that take all those things away from me".
What do you think about this? Food for thought. LOL! I can already guess what Matthew might say.................
Love,
Polly
I saw this quote from a blogger named Melissa who suffers from MIs:
"Time to regain my monk-like attitude about food. If I don't expect anything more from food than health, fuel, and nourishment, then I make good choices. When I want food to give me comfort or some sort of entitlement/reward, then I make choices that take all those things away from me".
What do you think about this? Food for thought. LOL! I can already guess what Matthew might say.................
Love,
Polly
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Hi Polly,
Maybe I don't really understand what she's saying, because I have to disagree. Most of the foods that I crave, (such as peanuts, popcorn, and ice cream, for example), I shouldn't be eating, and yet they do provide fuel, nourishment, and are not necessarily unhealthy, unless eaten in excess.
It's the things that are touted to be healthy, (such as salads), that don't provide any significant nourishment, or fuel. The most fuel and nourishment comes from fats, and I remain unconvinced that they're particularly unhealthy, (unless eaten in excess, of course)..
Love,
Wayne
Maybe I don't really understand what she's saying, because I have to disagree. Most of the foods that I crave, (such as peanuts, popcorn, and ice cream, for example), I shouldn't be eating, and yet they do provide fuel, nourishment, and are not necessarily unhealthy, unless eaten in excess.
It's the things that are touted to be healthy, (such as salads), that don't provide any significant nourishment, or fuel. The most fuel and nourishment comes from fats, and I remain unconvinced that they're particularly unhealthy, (unless eaten in excess, of course)..
Love,
Wayne
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Polly-
Very interesting. Thanks for guessing what I might say. LOL
Wayne-
In that I maintain a certain level of pragmatism in order to survive I would have to agree with your reply but just for the sake of something or other here is a different take.
“Time to regain my monk-like attitude about food” - She is not speaking about physical need but through the reference to “Monk” a spiritual or soul related desire . That food might somehow fulfill a spiritual need.
“If I don’t expect anything more from food than health, fuel, and nourishment, then I make good choices“ - Here she is saying that when she sees food as a fulfillment of physical need she makes the right choices for herself.
“When I want food to give me comfort or some sort of entitlement /reward, then I make choices that take all these things away.” - People over eat, undereat, pig out , fast , gorge themselves , crave .... trying to fulfill some spiritual or soul related need that is unfulfilable through food. It might be better delt with by understanding their own fear, lack of love, anxiety, loss of confidence, grief, depression......on and on. Kind of like trying to spackle a crack with sand or empty a pond with a tea cup. Physical need for nourishment can come from food but trying to fill a spiritual need for nourishment with food is like filling a bottomless pit in that it is not the thing that is needed too fill the hole (whole). So when she tries to fulfill those needs with food she actually finds that it does the opposite, taking away from her what she was trying to fulfill with something that would never fill it.
It’s a big subject and Melissa has put it very elegantly in a few short phrases.
Thanks Polly
Love
Matthew
Very interesting. Thanks for guessing what I might say. LOL
Wayne-
In that I maintain a certain level of pragmatism in order to survive I would have to agree with your reply but just for the sake of something or other here is a different take.
“Time to regain my monk-like attitude about food” - She is not speaking about physical need but through the reference to “Monk” a spiritual or soul related desire . That food might somehow fulfill a spiritual need.
“If I don’t expect anything more from food than health, fuel, and nourishment, then I make good choices“ - Here she is saying that when she sees food as a fulfillment of physical need she makes the right choices for herself.
“When I want food to give me comfort or some sort of entitlement /reward, then I make choices that take all these things away.” - People over eat, undereat, pig out , fast , gorge themselves , crave .... trying to fulfill some spiritual or soul related need that is unfulfilable through food. It might be better delt with by understanding their own fear, lack of love, anxiety, loss of confidence, grief, depression......on and on. Kind of like trying to spackle a crack with sand or empty a pond with a tea cup. Physical need for nourishment can come from food but trying to fill a spiritual need for nourishment with food is like filling a bottomless pit in that it is not the thing that is needed too fill the hole (whole). So when she tries to fulfill those needs with food she actually finds that it does the opposite, taking away from her what she was trying to fulfill with something that would never fill it.
It’s a big subject and Melissa has put it very elegantly in a few short phrases.
Thanks Polly
Love
Matthew
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You guys are very good this morning!!
I am delighted to log on to this board and find so much inspiration and enlightenment - excuse my use of this cliche LOL!
It is wonderful to see how you, Polly, were able to inspire to bring out the best in Matthew - Thank you, Matthew, for your lovely writing. I love the metaphor of emptying a lake with a tea cup. Food can only do so much for us - but if we make the right choices, like Melissa attempts to do, we can use the energy that it creates to find the right tool to empy the lake etc.
I too have a somewhat monk like lifestyle - it amazes me how good food tastes w/o the additives. Looking at life from the frugal perspective of a monk seems to not only make food taste better in it's unmasked form but it also allows a little light to shine through my curtains where otherwise I would sit in the dark thinking about how much greener the grass was in my neighbors yard.
Love,
Karen
I am delighted to log on to this board and find so much inspiration and enlightenment - excuse my use of this cliche LOL!
It is wonderful to see how you, Polly, were able to inspire to bring out the best in Matthew - Thank you, Matthew, for your lovely writing. I love the metaphor of emptying a lake with a tea cup. Food can only do so much for us - but if we make the right choices, like Melissa attempts to do, we can use the energy that it creates to find the right tool to empy the lake etc.
I too have a somewhat monk like lifestyle - it amazes me how good food tastes w/o the additives. Looking at life from the frugal perspective of a monk seems to not only make food taste better in it's unmasked form but it also allows a little light to shine through my curtains where otherwise I would sit in the dark thinking about how much greener the grass was in my neighbors yard.
Love,
Karen
Inspired by the paleolithic diet and lifestyle -
living w/o gluten, dairy, soy, corn, and yeast.
living w/o gluten, dairy, soy, corn, and yeast.