EnteroLab Test Results — This Is A Game Changer

[ldubois7]

Patricia,

What brand of olive oil do you use? I have suspected that my organic olive oil may have soy ingredients, so I've been using coconut and avocado oil until I find a clean brand.

I was told by Prothera that there were no soybeans in the Marine Fish Oil, but the other brands of fish oil they sell do contain soy. I will send a email, and recheck today. I just started taking it a few weeks ago, as I am very sensitive to soy, just as you are. I will let you know what I find out.

I am staying away from flaxseed oil because it is a phytoestrogen, so I need the fish oil.

Thanks for the heads up!

[Patricia]

Linda,

About two years ago (a year before I was diagnosed), I was in Bethlehem, PA. It is such a cute little town. I love the historic part with all the wonderful restaurants (I am a confessed ex-FOODIE) and the little shops. There, I came across the store "Seasons, Olive Oil and Taproom". They also have stores in Bethesda MD, Annapolis MD, and Lancaster PA. You can sample the different olive oils and vinegars. While in the store, I also saw the book "Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil" written by Tom Mueller. I had heard about the book on NPR and was curious about it. I bought it and read it as did my husband. It reads like a thriller, it is a very well researched book, and quite shocking.
Here is a link to the NPR interview (basically a summary of the book):
http://www.wbur.org/npr/143154180/losin ... s-industry

From that moment on, we never went back to buying olive oil in the supermarket. Producing olive oil is a very expensive process and impossible to do at supermarket prices (hence a lot of the olive oil is mixed with cheap vegetable oils, deodorized, colored, etc. poured in a cute bottle, adorned with a beautiful label, and called extra virgin olive oil, when really it is all but extra virgin olive oil.

Before I was diagnosed, I used different infused olive oils and vinegars of Seasons (garlic oil or lavender vinegar). Since being diagnosed, I only use their "ultra premium varietal extra virgin olive oils":
http://seasonstaproom.com/our-products/ ... olive-oil/
I might be fine with their infused oils and vinegars but did not dare try them yet.

Here is more information about the standards for the regular olive oil in the US and Australia compared to the UP standard (scroll down for the table):
http://seasonstaproom.com/ultra-premium ... -standard/

The UP olive oil is very expensive, but it is truly pure olive oil. I have no problems with it whatsoever and I pour it over everything I eat to increase the calories so I don't lose more weight. You will see different UP olive oils from different regions of the world with the year it was produced. The younger the oil, the more of the healthy properties it still contains (they decrease with age, olive oil is really a fruit juice). You will also see different intensities of olive oil. In the meantime, I really like the very robust intensities, so I usually buy the Coratina or the Pendolino. They offer free shipping if you order enough bottles. I cannot remember if you have to buy 10 bottles or 12 to get the free shipping, I usually order 12 bottles at a time. If you go into their stores, they give you a punch card and you get a free bottle after buying 10 bottles.

Love, Patricia

[jlbattin]

I bought fish oil from my chiropractor, but emailed the company before I did.

Mine is Nordic Naturals ProEPA and it states that it is gluten free and dairy free. I emailed them about the soy and this is the response I got:

Hi,

Thank you for your query and interest in Nordic Naturals.

We add vitamin E to all our omega-3 products. Vitamin E is required for the proper absorption of the omega-3 fatty acids. If we did not add it, supplementation would deplete your natural stores of this important nutrient. The vitamin E we use is derived from highly refined non-GMO soy bean oil. Because so many people have allergies and sensitivities to soy, we take care to ensure the vitamin E we source is purified of all soy proteins and other soy specific compounds so our products should all be safe – even for people with allergies to soy.

I hope this was helpful, let me know if I can be of further assistance.

In Health,

Jonna Paiss
Consumer sales and education representative



111 Jennings Drive
Watsonville, CA 95076
Toll free: 800-662-2544 x 113
Fax: 888-409-0382
jpaiss@nordicnaturals.com

I haven't had any trouble with it.........................

[crervin]

Tex,

I so hated to hear this news. I was so hoping remission would bring some sort of "normal" to our lives. Just curious, do celiac's developed additional sensitivities while they are in remission?

[tex]

Deb,

I don't use condiments.

Tex

[tex]

and the ProThera Maine Fish Oil (300/200) has "vitamin E (as d-alpha tocopherol) from soy":
https://www.protherainc.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=MAR

Good detective work.

Thanks.

Love,
Tex

[tex]

I so hated to hear this news. I was so hoping remission would bring some sort of "normal" to our lives. Just curious, do celiac's developed additional sensitivities while they are in remission?

I have no idea, but I'm probably a celiac. I say "probably" because I have the most common celiac gene (DQ2), and I had all the symptoms when my reactions began (including dental damage and greenish-gray diarrhea), but my doctors never tested me for celiac disease.

Tex

[Patricia]

Thanks, Tex! I did not mean to write "Maine Fish Oil", though, I meant to write "Marine Fish Oil". I must have been thinking about my oldest daughter who now lives in Maine

Sometimes, it feels like all we do is detective work regarding MC treatments and MC diet!

Love,
Patricia

[ldubois7]

I am irritated that the Marine Fish Oil may contain soy. I researched many products, and this one says on the label....free of soybeans. It also says that it uses mixed Vit e tocopherols.....which I knew are usually derived from soy.....but because the label stated it was free of soybeans...I was confused!

I can't call for a while due to the time zones, so I will let you all know what Prothera says.

Thanks for the info on olive oils, Patricia!

[ldubois7]

The word from ProThera is similar to Jari's answer from Nordic Naturals. They do use soy based Vit E, but they say the through purification & processing, the soy is not in the end product.
I asked if the final product is tested for the presence of soy, and she wasn't sure and would get back to me with an answer.

So, I do use Vit. E from Swanson that says its non-soy, and uses nonGMO sunflower oil. So, why can manufactures of allergy free supplements do that too.....it's probably all about the cost, right?

What now, Batman?? Does anyone use cod liver oil or krill oil that is free of soy, if such a thing exists?

[TREESE]

So, based on all this new Soy-n-Supplements info, can anyone recommend a new, SAFEST Daily Multivitamin Brand? I know Freeda has been a good choice for many of you, but with this New Soy finding, is FREEDA still a good choice in a Daily Multivitamin? Is it Only the Fish Oils that have become suspect?

TREESE

[tex]

Linda,

I ordered this product (Neptune Krill Oil) last fall, after I had the kidney stone issue and before I figured out that it was a magnesium deficiency problem instead, but I was afraid to take it, because it's contraindicated for anyone taking a blood thinner (it helps clotting).

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XC ... ailpages00

As I recall, the other ingredients are gelatin, glycerine, distilled water, and sorbitol. I have a new (last fall), unopened bottle with an expiry date of 04/18, that still has the factory seal intact. If you want to try it, I would be more than happy to send it to you (free of charge of course).

Batman . . . I mean Tex

[tex]

Is it Only the Fish Oils that have become suspect?

No, it's anything that contains natural tocopherols, or any form of tocopherols that is not specifically described to be made from something other than soybeans, because too many manufacturers believe that tocopherols are free of soy proteins. The reason they make that mistake is because the "experts" insist that this is true, despite the fact that so many people react to them. Just one more reason to distrust industry "experts".

Tex

[ldubois7]

Ok, Batman, I would love to try the Krill Oil!
I'll pm you my address? Thanks so much!!!

[tex]

Linda,

You're very welcome.

I suppose you noticed that my test results came out pretty much the opposite of yours (for gluten and casein, anyway). One of the reasons why I ordered those tests was to see if maybe it was common, or even likely to receive higher results on repeat tests, but apparently that isn't necessarily the case.

Tex