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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 122458.htm
Researchers at UC San Diego and Creighton University have challenged the intake of vitamin D recommended by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) Institute of Medicine (IOM), stating that their Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for vitamin D underestimates the need by a factor of ten.

In a letter published last week in the journal Nutrients the scientists confirmed a calculation error noted by other investigators, by using a data set from a different population. Dr. Cedric F. Garland, Dr.P.H., adjunct professor at UC San Diego's Department of Family Medicine and Public Health said his group was able to confirm findings published by Dr. Paul Veugelers from the University of Alberta School of Public Health that were reported last October in the same journal.

"Both these studies suggest that the IOM underestimated the requirement substantially," said Garland. "The error has broad implications for public health regarding disease prevention and achieving the stated goal of ensuring that the whole population has enough vitamin D to maintain bone health."

The recommended intake of vitamin D specified by the IOM is 600 IU/day through age 70 years, and 800 IU/day for older ages. "Calculations by us and other researchers have shown that these doses are only about one-tenth those needed to cut incidence of diseases related to vitamin D deficiency," Garland explained.

Robert Heaney, M.D., of Creighton University wrote: "We call for the NAS-IOM and all public health authorities concerned with transmitting accurate nutritional information to the public to designate, as the RDA, a value of approximately 7,000 IU/day from all sources."
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Deb,

Thank you for that link. Sadly, I don't expect the IOM to change their position anytime soon. This has been going on long enough that it has become painfully evident that the IOM has an agenda that is not in the best interest of public health, regarding this critically-important vitamin. But hopefully articles such as this will convince many more physicians to disregard the IOM's flawed and misleading recommendations and do what is right for their patients.

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so does this mean that we all should be taking Vitamin D3 7000 units a day, the minimum, this article says for everyone with or without
M/C..? Did I understand the article correctly? I take 6000 a day spread throughout the day , I guess, that is not enough. eh! I don't mind taking 1000 more, and staying away from prescription drugs ( my choice, I realize there are some here who do take prescription drugs so no offence intended, we are all coping in unique ways that fit us individually ) . Any day that doesn't start out with cramping or just feeling miserable in the bathroom is a beautiful one, whether it be rain or shine.... everyone have a great day the best you can where ever in the world you may live and whatever scenery you are looking out of your window. hope it is beautiful in its own unique way. take care
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I think you need to check your vitamin D levels and get them to the recommended level. Personally I was able to raise from 25 to 60's on 2,000 units a day, which I think is pretty unusual for this group. I haven't checked it for a couple of years now but probably should. Deb
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Hi Deb,
thank-you for your reply, that is great that you were able to raise your level maybe mine is higher now as well as it has been a while since having checked. sooo it is time again.....you bet. have a wonderful day. :pigtail:
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Deb's advice to check vitamin D levels somewhat regularly is right on target, IMO. I find that my response rate to vitamin D supplements varies significantly at various times, and I'm not always sure why. So testing is very important.

I have a hunch that the main reason why my response rates vary so much is because of various issues that cause my immune system to use more or less vitamin D at various times.

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Be careful not to take too much there are side effects.....I found out when I took 7000 units spread throughout the day. 30 min after my last dose, I got very sick. I believe that was way too much for me personally.
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Hi Tex, and Martha,
I have been second guessing myself with the amount I have been taking so it sure makes sense to get it tested again and find out what has changed and the correct dosage to take now with passage of time. Meanwhile, I am going to cut the amount I take it in half and see how I feel while I wait for the doctor's appointment .... what other things should I have rechecked in my blood work that could be significant for me and staying on top of , keeping symptoms under control. I guess what I am asking is I would like to go to the Dr. with a list of what is important to have checked for me with M/C. the primary vitamin levels optimal for good health and most important sustaining my energy levels. any suggestions....
thanks for your time and advice really appreciate it. :pigtail:
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Martha,

While anything is possible (and we are all different) I would be very surprised if that relatively small dose of vitamin D was the actual cause of your getting sick (unless it contained something that might cause you to react, such as soy). It takes huge doses of vitamin D supplements (30,000–40,000 IU per day) for a very long time (months or years), to actually lead to a toxic overdose level.

You might be interested in this copy of a post that I made over 3 years ago:
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FWIW, 2,000 IU of vitamin D daily is a supplemental dose. A therapeutic dose would be on the order of 1,000 IU per pound of body weight, per day, for roughly a week. Here is Dr. Cannell's suggested vitamin D treatment regimen for bird flu, for example:
Stock your home's pharmacy with several fresh bottles of 50,000 IU capsules of Vitamin D3 (a medicine at this dosage, not a supplement) and if you get this flu, take 2,000 IU per kg of body weight per day for a week. As I weigh 220 pounds, I would take 200,000 IU per day for seven days if I thought I had an infection with a 1918-like influenza virus.
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/news-arc ... vitamin-d/

Remember the year that bird flu was supposed to develop into a pandemic? About the time it got going pretty good here in Texas (and Mexico), I started having flu symptoms a few days after a routine doctor appointment (the waiting room was filled with sneezing, coughing patients). On the second day of symptoms, I started taking 150,000 IU of vitamin D3 per day, and after a couple of days, my symptoms began to fade away, so I stopped taking it after about 4 days. I had no ill effects from the large doses that I could detect.

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When I took those therapeutic doses, I took 3-50,000 IU capsules of D3 each morning, at one time, right after breakfast.

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Twirlitgirl,

Besides vitamin D, about the only practical item in the vitamin category that most doctors seem willing to check for is vitamin B-12 level. It's also a good idea to test for folic acid level, but some doctors don't see the need to do that.

If you are low on energy, it might be a good idea to ask for a test of your ferritin level, which will give you an accurate measure of your iron level.

Maybe someone else can think of some other good suggestions.

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Thank you Tex, I was so sure it caused me problems. Clearly, I'm having a time figuring out what's causing me to react. That makes me feel better, I've been reluctant after that to take that many. It's Nature Made brand.
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thanks Tex for the post, I appreciate you providing the link for it. :pigtail:
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Martha,

If you are sensitive to corn, then that product could certainly cause problems, because it not only contains maltodextrin (which is virtually always made from corn in the U.S.), but it also contains corn starch.

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Hi Tex,
thank-you for the other suggestions for the blood test and what to ask the doctor to check, sounds good to me.
My energy level varies from one day to the next, so will be interesting to see what my iron level really is. .
I will make a note of it and testing for folic acid and B12 as well, hope for the best that all levels are within normal range.
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Be sure to specify a ferritin test, because there are other blood tests commonly ordered for iron, but the ferritin test is the most reliable.

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